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  1. But gasheads will still blame it on us. Back to the OP; As Grimsby play their home games at Cleethorpes, I wonder how many of today's Cleethorpes fans are usually found at Blundell Park? A mild interest in South Shields as that's where Ken Wimshurst started his career.. York have just been relegated from the National League, so for the player's self respect and to reward their fans, I expect York to pull out all the stops for this one. For younger members of the forum; the FA Vase is what used to be the Amateur Cup. The Trophy is for professional teams outside of the Football League. You may recall that three seasons ago, Bath City won a localish derby for one round of that competition.
  2. Similarly a lot of "Posh" fans fear the worst when "Peterhead nil" is announced. In the coming season when we hear a report from "Forest", there will be extra attention paid in Nottingham and South Gloucs.
  3. I recorded more than usual about 1999-2000 for some reason. As always please feel free to correct any factual errors. In July 1999, Tony Pulis was appointed manager. He had led Gillingham to the playoff final only two months before, but had then been sacked for “Gross Misconduct”. Despite this, Gillingham still demanded compensation from City. Lennartson would stay on for a hand over period. City had wanted ex City player David Moyes as manager, but Preston, who he now managed, twice refused permission for Davidson to talk to Moyes, who then led Preston to the division championship. Sean Dyche was sold to Millwall for £150,000, Rob Edwards signed for Preston as a free transfer, Colin Crambe went to Crewe for £200,000 and Soren Anderson returned to Denmark for the same amount. Keith Welch moved to Chesterfield. The arrivals were defender Gerard Lavin from Millwall and midfielder Paul Mortimer from Charlton. Apart from the annual change in pattern, the most obvious change to the shirts was the introduction of squad numbers. The 1999/2000 season began at Reading with over 4,000 travelling fans in attendance. Reading scored after 15 minutes; Lavin stopped another Reading attack by upending a home player, which resulted in a torrent of abuse from the Reading fans. Lavin then deliberately kicked the ball at some of them, and stewards had to prevent a pitch invasion. The referee sent Lavin off which led to fights breaking out. Tinnion equalised with a late penalty, but Reading rallied with their second goal just before the end. Tony Pulis announced that Lavin’s career was over, but the player testified that he merely meant to hit a hoarding and he remained a City player. In the first part of the season, more promising youngsters made their debuts; Alex Meechan as a substitute against Bury and Marvin Brown became City’s youngest ever player at 16 years and 2 months when he appeared as a substitute in a League Cup game. Others who had made some appearances, such as Andrew Jordan played more often. In September Wolves paid £3.5 million for Akinbiyi which was fortunate as it was announced that relegation had lost City £2 million. Steve Jones was bought from Charlton as a replacement for £500,000. Akinbiyi became the most expensive transfer between two League Clubs. Another arrival was midfielder Paul Holland for £200,000. In October Ashton Gate was used during the Rugby World Cup and produced a £100,000 profit. After 16 games, City were in a rut; unbeaten at home, 2 wins and 8 draws but poor travellers with just one win and two draws. When Wigan were top they managed to win with a last minute goal. A few games later, Rovers went top by drawing 0-0. Goalkeeper Mercer and striker Peter Beadle were signed but to no avail. To compound matters, defender Jim Brennan went to Nottingham Forest for £1.5 million. When struggling Cambridge visited and scored in the first minute, Pulis was vilified. Jones equalised but in the second half Tinnion and Goodridge, who had been providing the only sparks were taken off simultaneously and both teams played the final 20 minutes with only one player up front. The 8,000 crowd booed the team off the pitch. Results then improved with hard fought draws at Stoke, 2-2 and Notts County, 4-4. A 2-0 win at Bournemouth in the FA Cup was followed up with league victories over Reading at home, where ’keeper Mercer saved a penalty and 2-0 at Chesterfield. Tony Thorpe was loaned to Luton where he teamed up with Adam Locke who had moved there under the Bosman ruling. Jones was dropped and goals were now being regularly scored by Tinnion and Beadle. For the FA Cup 3rd round City took 4,000 fans to Premiership Sheffield Wednesday where the home side won 1-0. Tony Thorpe played for Luton on Boxing Day and against them two days later in the last game of the century, a goal less draw watched by nearly 12,000 at Ashton Gate. The first game of the 21st Century was, like the first game of the 20th Century, an away league win, this time at Wrexham. This was followed by a goal less draw with Cardiff. Towards the end of the first half, the Cardiff ‘keeper punched out a cross which Tistimetanu immediately kicked past him into the goal. The “goal” was disallowed for offside, Tinnion protested and was sent off! The referee was Mr Dean from the Wirral who had given several surprising decisions against City in games during the previous season. Five days later Pulis resigned and became manager of Portsmouth. The following day City won 3-2 at Bournemouth whilst Portsmouth lost by the same score at home to Wolves, whose equaliser was scored by Tony Branch who Pulis had tried to sign for City and the winner came from Akinbiyi who Pulis had sold to Wolves only four months before. The following week City were home to leaders Wigan. When City’s players took the field they were seen to be smiling and relaxed. One lifelong fan commented that was the first time that season that had happened. Afterwards, the same fan stated that he had never seen such a fit and workman like team at Ashton Gate as Wigan were that day. The draw that day was judged by all as a fair result. Two of the youth team made their debuts in defence that day, Joe Burnell and Martin Hill. Another debutant for the next game was Simon Clist in midfield. Two more starlets, Olukayode Odejayi and Damien Spencer made substitute appearances, a few years later both players scored regularly for Cheltenham. Departing the scene were Steve Torpey for £20,000 to Scunthorpe and Lorenzo Pinamonte to Brentford for £50,000. Pinamonte had made a few first team appearances and had scored on his debut in the final game of the previous season. This injection of youth did not weaken the team that was now managed by a triumvirate. The three were Youth Academy director Dave Burnside, Coach Leroy Rosenior and Scout Tony Fawthrop who had final say. Results improved so that a play off position became feasible and they reached the area final of the Auto Windscreen Trophy, a two-legged affair against Exeter. This tournament rarely attracted many spectators, yet over 8,000 turned up at Ashton Gate to see City beat Reading 4-0 in the semi-final on a cold, wet February night. The next game was a disappointment though. Earlier in the season, City had drawn 4-4 at Meadow Lane and in the return match City were 2-0 up at half time. In the second half, Notts County scored on the hour and then one of their forwards clearly dived in the penalty area. The dive was so blatant that even the linesman waved play on, but the referee awarded a penalty that levelled the scores. As a result of the decision, stewards had to control some of the 10,000 crowd as they surged from their seats towards the pitch. Afterwards the Notts County manager stated that they were the better team and should have won as City’s two goals were soft. Tony Fawthrop won the Manager of the Month Award for February and on the 29th, Wembley beckoned. The first leg of the area final of the Auto Windscreen Shield, watched by nearly 13,000, was a personal triumph for Scott Murray. After four minutes he crossed for Tony Thorpe to head home. In the second half he crossed for Beadle to side foot a shot past the Exeter keeper and then went on a powerful run and chipped the ball for a goal of his own. Joe Burnell scored his first goal for the club shortly after that and City had a 4-0 lead to take to Exeter. City’s 15 match unbeaten spell finally ended with three defeats in eight days in early March, 4-1 at Millwall, 3-0 at Cambridge and 1-0 at home to Gillingham. The last of these was City’s first home defeat of the season in any competition. They then drew at Exeter to guarantee a Wembley appearance in the final of the Auto Windscreen Shield against Stoke City. Tickets sold rapidly at both clubs for the final at Wembley and on the day over 75,000 created a marvellous atmosphere. This was the largest crowd in the history of the club to watch a Bristol City match. The revenue went a long way to repairing the £2,000,000 loss of the previous season. A poor performance in the first half gave Stoke a 1-0 interval lead. Both teams played much better in the second half; Paul Holland equalised, but Thorne scored the winner from Stoke near the end. The match had been spoilt oddly enough, because the referee had tried too hard to allow flowing football. Both teams had players fouled in the penalty area and players of both teams blatantly handled the ball, yet the referee waved play on. The season wound up with City just below the play off places, yet the season did not end with a whimper. The penultimate game was at Colchester who took a 2-0 lead. Scott Murray then took a hand and scored. Early in the second half Colchester scored a third, but with Andrew Jordan and Joe Burnell refusing to give up, Murray turned the game with a succession of crosses into the Colchester box. One was converted by Alex Meechan and another was headed into his net by a defender. Micky Bell then scored a fourth to secure a victory. The youths who had debuted that season caught the national eye and that summer Marvin Brown played for England under 16s, Kevin Amankwaah for the under 17s and Jordan for Scotland’s under 21 team. A split board then appointed Tony Fawthrop as manager with the chairman reconsidering his future as the season ended. A fortnight later, Fawthrop resigned on personal grounds.
  4. Sky Bet EFL fixtures announced: 21st June 2017 Sky Bet EFL season starts: weekend of 5th August 2017 Carabao Cup starts: week commencing 7th August 2017 Checkatrade Trophy starts: week commencing 28th August 2017 Not Applicable to City. Sky Bet EFL regular season ends: weekend of 5th May 2018 Sky Bet EFL Play-Off Finals: weekend of 26th - 28th May 2018 http://www.efl.com/news/article/2016/efl-key-dates-for-201718-announced-3586238.aspx
  5. I went past Alloa's ground a few years ago; it makes Twerton Park seem palatial and I thought "every few years they will be drawn home to Celtic or Rangers. How do they accommodate the away fans"?
  6. There was a Brechin fan who occasionally posted on this forum. He took a passing in interest in us as we are also a BCFC with red & white as colours. Whilst looking at lower Scottish football; last season Edinburgh City won the play off system and gained entry to the Scottish League at the expense of East Stirlingshire. This season the winners of the Highland league played off against East Kilbride, the winners of the Lowland League. EK won and played off against Cowdenbeath, the bottom team in the Scottish League. Both games were drawn and today EK lost on pens, so Cowdenbeath stayed in the League. Beath's attendance varies between 250 and 510. They refer to themselves as "the Blue Brazil". Oddly enough, I've never heard Brazil refer to themselves as The Yellow Cowdenbeath.
  7. 1975 Cup Final some West Ham fans (Another East London club) got on the pitch. One ran up & down through the ranks of the band whilst another got on the pitch microphone. 1966 Cup Final a smartly dressed Everton fan ran on the pitch. A Policeman grabbed hold of his jacket,but the man kept rubbing leaving his jacket in the hands of the copper. 1:50 in the link
  8. Looking at that table from less than 20 years ago, four of the teams have since been down to League 2, four have dropped out of the League, but two have Oxford & Grimsby got back in. I think 10 have since played in the Prem and next season we play 9 or 10 of them again.
  9. Totti - Britain's next top model
  10. At the start of the 1998-99 season, City, Rovers, Bournemouth and Cardiff all had their reserves expelled from the Combination as clubs in the South East didn’t want to travel too far. The clubs set up their own league with Bath, Yeovil and the three Devonshire clubs. City won it, but the competition was poor. To enhance the prospects of attracting youngsters to the Youth team, City formed a partnership with Clifton College and Bath University so that teenagers would have the benefit of a good education by joining Bristol City. To prepare for a higher division, City spent more in the summer of 1998 than ever before. 7,500 season tickets had been sold, a third of the ground’ s capacity. Forwards Ade Akinbiyi came from Gillingham for £1.2 million, Tony Thorpe from Fulham for £1 million and Danish International Soren Anderson was secured for £700,000. Other International players to arrive were midfielders Moldavian Ivan Tistimetanu and Hungarian Vilmos Sebok. This proved to be a dubious advantage later in the season. One night as defender Brennan played for Canada and Sebok scored a hat trick for his country, City were losing a vital game against fellow strugglers. It was to be a season where they scored in nearly every game, but with Sean Taylor missing through injury and other stalwarts absent every few weeks, the defence was just not strong enough. Watford visited in August and won 4-1, in late Autumn City lost consecutive matches 5-0 and 6-1. The first win had not occurred until late September, 5-2 against fellow strugglers Crewe. In four consecutive games City had been winning, but conceded an equaliser in the last minute. After 16 matches, Benny Lennartson was brought in as a specific defence coach. John Ward felt this undermined his position, so he departed leaving Lennartson in charge. He had the worst start of any manager in the club’s history, just two wins in the first 22 games. Keith Welch was replaced in goal by Phillips, a local lad. Bo Anderson had been signed but Phillips kept him out for two months. Welch was released at the end of the season. Dyche, Torpey, Crambe and Thorpe all finished the season on loan to other clubs. The first three because they had not regained their places following long injuries, Thorpe because he was a disappointment. Hope had emerged at Easter when three consecutive victories were recorded, but then City slipped up as the others around them achieved shock results. City finished bottom of the division. There had been bright moments though; Akinbiyi scored 23 goals, Sunderland had been running away with the division, but were held to a 1-1 draw at Roker by City. Aaron Brown and Matthew Hill progressed from the Youths into the first team, attendance’s never dropped below 11,000 and many managers stated they wished they could have the support at home that Bristol City had at away games. After the game that saw City relegated at Sheffield United, several thousand fans stayed to salute their heroes and their efforts. At home a set of Samba drummers in the Atyeo Stand maintained a great atmosphere throughout all games. It was suggested the reason for the great atmosphere was due to “fair weather” fans staying away and only the true fans still attending. The aim for the coming season was immediate promotion therefore to reward these stalwarts. Frustratingly, the next few seasons ended in promotion near misses.
  11. Remember Cheri Lunghi in the TV series "The Manageress"?
  12. Officially that's why the kick off was delayed.
  13. We can widen the scope of that. Gillingham, B&HA, Pompey, Soton, Bournemouth, the Devon three, Yeovil, Cheltenham, FGR, Swansea, Cardiff, Swindon, Oxford, Reading and some London clubs all joined the League after City did. Draw a line on the map from Arsenal to Aston Villa and we have been in the League longer than any other club South of that line.
  14. Exeter to win at Wembley please as they're a fellow West Country team. In an odd way that will be a blessing in disguise to the travelling Carlisle fans. Next season they won't be playing Plymouth, Exeter or Pompey. Their longest trip will be Colchester.
  15. Luton home to Blackpool tonight. Luton have appealed for their fans to bring flags & banners this evening to help get a great atmosphere going.