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NickJ

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  1. Agreed, and it is very concerning if LJ genuinely believes that. Not one other person at the game would have said with sincerity that we deserved a point, we were totally outplayed.
  2. Excellent analysis - we were totally outplayed all game bar the first 2 and the last 2 minutes. Found myself thinking, were we that bad, or do you have to give credit to the opposition who toyed with us and carved us apart on numerous occasions, with some excellent football. We have to hope Brentford are one of the better teams in this division this season, because if they aren't we will struggle again.
  3. Brentford ticket going spare

    Not sure if you are same person that called me earlier, but I have 2 spares now, I have sent text if it is you, not heard back yet. Whether it is or not, anyone that wants 2 call me on 07976 820699, I will be collecting from ticket office so can be met there about 7.15pm
  4. I bought 5 what I thought were seating tickets earlier, then realized I had bought 5 terraced. As one of us is over 80 years old (not me) I needed seating and so also bought 5 of the last seating left. So I have 5 terrace available - PM or call 07976 820699.
  5. Smoke

    Very good point mate and exactly the one, sort of, I am trying to make. If the law was changed to allow responsible use, no reason IMO why they could not be used safely in stadiums.
  6. Smoke

    The point I am making is that IMO there is no reason why they need to be completely illegal.
  7. Smoke

    There are plenty of idiots on the roads in charge of potentially far more dangerous weapons than colored smoke, and the way that works is the idiots are able to drive dangerously until they are caught and then fined/banned/imprisoned. ie driving is not illegal and there is no presumption that a driver will act irresponsibly until they actually have done so.
  8. Smoke

    OK, but it was not yesterday as was stated by @richwwtk And furthermore the incident she described sounds like either deliberate or at best reckless. No reason the smoke cannot be used if responsibly, which is why I suggest in a previous post that one possible compromise - if the law allowed - would be use by authorized persons.
  9. Smoke

    Aah, we are getting to the stage in the thread where people make things up to suit their own agenda. Julie has not said that people were hurt and needed treatment yesterday, she was talking about a deliberate act at a different event that she was at previously. Here is what Julie said: "I can also add I was working that day . a smoke grenade was held up high and the contents of it dropped onto a female beside the culprit burning her city top onto her skin, she was treated for burns by the medical team on duty. the culprit was arrested and received a caution for criminal damage to the shirt and assault. This was agreed by the victim as the culprit was not known to the police. these items burn at very high temperatures, I have seen several burn injuries on hands of offenders and the best advice I can give if one lands near you is to kick it away immediately, preferably somewhere safe, throwing it on the pitch is not a great option. i will contact Bcfc and ensure the details of the witness is obtained to assist in our investigation of the grenade at Bcfc v Barnsley". ie, a non football related event where a person for whatever reason droppped the grenade on to a person.
  10. Smoke

    Except I haven't ignored anything he said. He actually says that they do cause breathing irritation and should not be used in confined spaces. I would interpret "breathing irritation" as a minor short term effect. A confined space I would assume means an enclosed space where the smoke cannot escape. His conclusion is key: "Sometimes dangerous if handled badly but usually pretty safe if used sensibly and one at a time. My conclusion is in the open air of a stadium no real harm done to health but really dangerous if thrown at people". Clearly they will be dangerous if thrown at people, but so far as I know that did not happen; the whole idea is to create fun and add to the atmosphere. As for the comment that it could go off in your pocket, I didn't miss that, it's just that I am assuming responsible use. @Bob Bob Super Bob has posted a video on this thread, of all the dozens if not hundreds featured, I cannot see a single person in breathing difficulty or appearing to be the slightest bit distressed.
  11. Smoke

    Driving a car is legal but when you do so you are causing more harm to others than if you let off some colored smoke in a football stadium, which is illegal. Over the years daft and unjust laws have been changed because they were challenged. Law makers and enforcers should represent what the majority want. I'm quite happy for the club to ban people who deliberately cause violent acts in a stadium, and for the police to prosecute them. I don't think that should extend to letting off some colored smoke, since it would appear that the majority seem to think it adds to the atmosphere but not at the expense of causing harm to others. That is not at all tantamount, as you suggest, to a "FRO attitude and I'll do what I want".
  12. Smoke

    Without wanting to send this into dictionary corner, coloured is the British version and the preferred spelling in the UK but colored is the American preferred version and both are correct.
  13. Smoke

    For the avoidance of doubt, deadly serious, so continue to be staggered. What are you staggered by?
  14. Smoke

    Most obviously I do feel for your experience. However with all respect there are unlikely to be 6 month old babies in a football stadium. @paulcityfan appears to be more qualified than most to comment, his conclusion is that handled responsibly they are safe and not a health hazard. Indeed, several people on this thread have stated they suffer from asthma and confirmed that the smoke did not adversely affect them. Obviously there is the possibility that in the wrong hands they could be dangerous. But I'd like to think that even the more exuberant would not deliberately seek to use colored smoke as an indiscriminate weapon. Maybe, if the law allowed, a reasonable compromise would be to allow their use by approved individuals. It would appear from this thread that a narrow majority are in favour of colored smoke, while the reasons given from those who object frankly appear to be along the lines of either self righteous "because its against the law", or a misguided belief that colored smoke is harmful. Perhaps the law and the views of the nanny state should be changed.
  15. Smoke

    Yes I can see that would merit a ban and prosecution. While the club is on the offensive for these vandals, could it also for example identify the culprit that wasted £3 million on Tomlin and sold him on for next to nothing, now that really offends me. Every day, most posters on here - including the killjoys - drive cars, knowing that they cause pollution and hence are harmful to others. They also know they could be involved in an accident where a child is killed. That is an unavoidable statistical fact, and yet every day you still take that risk. Puts into perspective the remote possibility that somebody could be caused serious harm from colored smoke.
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