The turtle

Torre de Belém.... The face of Portuguese history (Check out the monestery walking distance away from the torre, and if you're into football stadiums belenenses just behind. IMPORTANT Pastéis de Belém = in the cafe named as such; incredible and cheap (This is the only place that can be the true name- everywhere else you're having DE NATA Bairrio alto at night is worth a visit - a real Portuguese experience (be warned you have to go up up and up) and not everywhere there accepts card as payment, be sure to ask. The view of the bridge at sunset at the river end of Praça do Comércio is incredible Most of lisboa is actually pretty new since 1755 earthquake, for a taste of history ... Check out lisbon cathedral and alfama distract as it's the historic part of the city. Close by - Castelo de S. Jorge. It's highly recommend. - sadly I couldn't go there, as my 2am night out turned into 7.30am (welcome to lisboa) so that morning was out. ......... Finally Check out pink street in the early evening - then leave. Do not drink there. Worth a view, feel disappointed, then leave (then return in the late late hours if so wish)

August 2023 - end of season 2024 Which players have progressed and/or are seen on a more positive light by the Fanbase I would say max has more trust. Tanner has a bit more respect, actually becoming better with a bit of time out the side. Knight has been good been more than decent when played in the right positions. But i often feel; if there's a game he's the best player it's because all creativity has been poor. He gives the side energy, he keeps it ticking, but he shouldn't be the best player. Has anybody else really kicked on? Who can you see currently being developed into something more?

Firstly it's important to understand there are two styles at play; style A is when the opposition impose themselves style B when they let us play the way we want. Style A has been worked on for a number of years. It's what this squad was built for. Counter attacking pressing football You only have to look at the possession stats to know what has happened in city match. Over 50 it was probably an awful game Under 50... We were in the game Style b - is the way manning wants to play. It's the ultimate man city trick, yet death of football as we know it. Yesterday as an example, we took a goal kick with 3 players in our own box, yet not 1 Huddersfield player was in our half. For style B to work- you would need. Multi million pound striker or 2. A multi million pound AM. 4 super quick, super electric wingers.. Basically rotated on who is in form.. Overlapping full backs on both sides And ball playing, pacey DM or 2 It's a lot of money, a whole lot of money. With no guarantee it will work. Leeds do not play that way Ipwich do not play that way. Both entertain ......................... The problem with style B, even at it's best there are long periods of games where nothing happens. There are less threatening shots Leds turning the defence Less crosses Less beat your man, Less get to the byline In the few manning pressers i have seen, he likes the phrase we've had to work harder for our goals. Well that goes without saying when the opposition know your plan, and will allow holes elsewhere to stop that plan. A lot of the footbal in style A is dull, boring, lacking intensity, devoid of, well you know the E word. There was a moment yesterday when city went back to max from an attacking corner. The crowd not angry. Carey on bctc (he was fantastic and insightful bar this comment) insinuated the crowd don't understand the ploy here. The crowd understood it perfectly, but were making it clear they do not want backwards safe option by instinct football (As an aside; I've watched 3 games this week where a co- commentator has implied the crowd didn't understand - - - they did, but rejected what they saw) Think about it like this. 4 games unbeaten, off the back of a 5-0 win. And yet the crowd were restless and annoyed because the entertainment and enjoyment factor was 0. Ashton gate is not a place for safety first football. I understand results matter, i understand ultimately that's the games. But it's supposed to be fun, have you on the edge of your seat. It just doesn't do that, not even mostly for man city And yet they've said.... Transfer tweaks. So what's going to change? Well everything becomes about the result. Win or lose That's it. The actual entertainment factor, a buzzing Ashton gate. Will be few and far between. I hate ball retention for the sake of it football. It's just not a way I want to spend my Saturdays. Be intent, be aggressive, and go at the opposition. Take risks in their half, not yours. At one point yesterday, the commentator and carey were complimentary because we pulled their striker out of play, and created space for a full back in line with our penalty area. Do you know what happend next? Absolutely nothing. Miles from their goal And no intent to disrupt their shape where damage can be done. ..... Away from home will always be a different story. Wins and draws are hard thought and earnt But at home- with that style I don't exactly live in hope, and I'm not exactly a fan even when it works

I find the fact that's a penalty ridiculous. But that's modern football. It either takes your breath away, puts you to sleep, or makes you go really?

And yet!! This is the mood when it's good

60% possession A bit like giving the dog a bone/stick when they prefer to chase it. Oh i hate it when we try and play this way

Never liked this city

So in essence, a team plays so badly the other team so dominant. You spend 90 minutes with very little entertainment, very little to get excited about. Very little quality from your own team. You've not got close to value for money or value for time. You haven't even seen the other team score to actually feel annoyed. Yet, and it's the oddest of yets, it was so bad, conversely it becomes satisfying because a point has been added to a league table? Yep, I'll take that. I understand what you're saying, i just find it alien.

Birth-shell-day suit

Wait till you see I'm actually a turtle

Just a football musing, but I don't want to glory hog with a new thread. It's not so much about city either. A strange phrase I've seen a lot today post game = "ill take that" It has to be one of the stranger emotions. Who pays money and time to walk away from a football match thinking "ill take that" after a nil nil. It's not like there are exceptions either, because if you play well you aren't taking it. I'm a master of somehow watching 0-0s and not once have i ever walked out feeling like "ill take that" Do you know how dominant the other team has to be for "ill take that" Not once have i been to a game hoping for a 0-0. It simply leaves a feeling devoid of emotion. I just don't get the phrase or the feeling

And by August he'll probably be elsewhere

National broadcast , on the BBC The British broadcasting corporation. Wales more important game , easy decision.

my coffee is now on the floor. DO you know how long it takes a turtle to make a coffee? Took us from deep dodo in league 1, to one game from the promised land. multiple top half finishes! and then there is getting Yeovil to the championship. Humans, honestly. it is true what that say, live long enough and every hero becomes a villain; note how this did not happen to the teenage mutant ninja turtles, heroes for life, no drama. us turtles have class! how did I do? we are playing a game about who can post most ridiculously, right?