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#1 Redcliffe 78

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:31 AM

A feature on the Bristol clubs.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:39 AM

I have to say, it doesn't really tell us anything that we haven't heard before, though it's nice to hear Del talking up our potential. Perhaps articles like this can start to raise Bristol's standing as a football city, get more people interested?

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:47 AM

"Primarily a rugby city"

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:48 AM

"Primarily a rugby city"

Bit harsh!



Good article but wide of the mark when describing us a rugby city. I think Bristol simply is not a sporting city, full stop.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:49 AM

I think it's fair to say a significant sporting interest is rugby. For example you tend to see people wearing more Bristol rugby merchandise on town, but it seems to be restricted to older types.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:51 AM

Never ever understood this label that Bristol is a rugby city, both football teams get bigger crowds than the 1 rugby team….. how can it be a rugby city?

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:53 AM

made me laugh that rovers hasn't sold out yet for todays game :laughcont:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:54 AM

I've been misquoted slightly. I never said bewildered, I said we were consistently inconsistent.

Ah well

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:55 AM

Good article but wide of the mark when describing us a rugby city. I think Bristol simply is not a sporting city, full stop.


Success breeds support and the fact is neither Bristol football clubs have had never won a major cup or spent a serious amount of time in the top division.

Rugby is a factor, no doubt. Bath and Gloucester within a few miles and now Exeter just over an hours drive from Bristol



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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:58 AM

It is the easy explanation of how a City of half a million and the 6th largest in the country has two under achieving football clubs and relatively low attendances.

On the rugby side there are probably more players per capita than any other in the country other than maybe Gloucester.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

A feature on the Bristol clubs.

http://tinyurl.com/7pteqqp






Thanks for posting the link to that article, I enjoyed reading it. The point about Bristol being a rugby city is - almost - a valid one. In the West, Bath is definately a rugby city as is Gloucester and Bristol is not far behind. What the article doesn't mention is the fact that more people - as a proportion of Bristol's population and more than any other English city - actually play football on a Saturday afternoon. For that reason our support is always going to be lower than it could be.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:09 AM

Never ever understood this label that Bristol is a rugby city, both football teams get bigger crowds than the 1 rugby team….. how can it be a rugby city?


Especially when you think that Bristol City Rugby FC currently seems to be even less successful as both of their football teams... :innocent06:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:20 AM

Especially when you think that Bristol City Rugby FC currently seems to be even less successful as both of their football teams... :innocent06:


The first Bristol team that I saw win a Championship game at home this season was Bristol Rugby in late October. I went along to the Friday evening game Bristol v London Welsh. Over 6,000 in attendance - more than the Gas get? - we were losing after a minute and all seemed lost then we won in the last minutes of injury time right at the very last !!!!! A brilliant game of rugby for Championship level - better than anything you'll see from Bath and Gloucester rugby clubs. :winner_third_h4h:

The success rubbed off because one week later we got our first home win against Burnley. Is it any wonder that our home attendances have been crap when it took us until November to win a home game ?????!!!!!!!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:22 AM

Good article but wide of the mark when describing us a rugby city. I think Bristol simply is not a sporting city, full stop.


Complete bollocks!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:25 AM

Complete bollocks!


I meant described as a rugby city, not your statement, tho a bit harsh.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:29 AM

I don't buy this rugby twoddle!
When I frequent local pubs, are they talking about "egg chasing"? No, It's City and Rovers, (more often than not Arsenal, Manure and Liverpool) No one seems interested in the rugby. Does anyone know who they've got today (indeed are they playing).
It's a game for fat boys with not enough skill to play a proper game!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:31 AM

Complete bollocks!


Excellent reply. Indeed, writing as a Bristolian, Bristol is obsessed with sport. Go in any pub or workplace in Bristol and listen to Bristolians - not councillors that have been parachuted in that are ruining sport in the city - and you'll hear conversations about football, rugby, horse racing, cricket etc.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:46 AM

A feature on the Bristol clubs.

http://tinyurl.com/7pteqqp






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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:47 AM

Bristol is most definitely a sporting city. A sporting supporting city, not so, hardcore supporters are relatively small for both city rovers and bristol rugby. In terms of playing sport, has to be be one of the biggest in the country endless football, rugby and cricket teams in the area

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:59 AM

Bristol is a sporting City, you only need to look at the massive amatuer set ups in football, rugby and cricket that we have here!

The major problem for the thee clubs here (BCFC, BRFC, and Bristol Rugby) is that its a floating sporting city. There is plenty of affection for sport in general, and most people you speak with will express a loose allegeance to City or Rovers, but you just dont have the hardcore mentality and passionate support that you get in Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool, Tyneside etc....

Why? Simple. Lack of success, and not enough investment or interest from the local council into promoting our football clubs.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 12:08 PM

and not enough investment or interest from the local council into promoting our football clubs.


Indeed, at the end of the Daily Mail article was the comment below. Bristol City Council always has had a "can't do" attitude - especially to local sport. Well written Jeff Byrne of Clevedon.........

"Village" mentality sums it up. The Council has had a "can't do" attitude for years and people take their cue from that. Best example is all the wasted opportunities down the years to install a rapid transit system on all the old railway lines.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:34 PM

I've been misquoted slightly. I never said bewildered, I said we were consistently inconsistent.

Ah well



nail on the head just got to hope enough teams at the top keep changing places so when we play them they are further up the table ,seeing as we are only motivated to play well against team at the top of the league.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

As a sporting City, Bristol has been skating on thin ice for years (well since '66 anyway) but thank God thats all about to change eh?...

What we want is more student accomodation!! ... innit??

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:05 PM

What we want is more student accomodation!! ... innit??


Crap....innit.......the Studio nightclub - that was part of the Mecca leisure centre - is now student accomodation. No doubt the bomb site that was the Wedlocks Pub will be built on to provide...........student accomodation. I used to also like the Granary nightclub - is that now student accomodation as well? :rofl2br:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:07 PM

The bellend commentator on the sag game has just mentioned this. More of rugby city? NEVER. For me it's bollocks; simples.

There's an element of Chicken & Egg to it really. Without sustained success you won't get the bums on seats. Without the bums on
seats you won't generate the funds (organically) to invest. QED.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:18 PM

The bellend commentator on the sag game has just mentioned this. More of rugby city? NEVER. For me it's bollocks; simples.

There's an element of Chicken & Egg to it really. Without sustained success you won't get the bums on seats. Without the bums on
seats you won't generate the funds (organically) to invest. QED.


OK, I'll remain the only City supporter on this forum to admit to liking and watching the 'egg-chasing' at Bristol Rugby Club. :flowers:

I'm not sure what NTTDS is going to make of your new avatar image. :laughcont: :rofl2br: ..........

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:22 PM

Of course we're not a rugby city :laugh:. I lost interest in that article after that comment.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:28 PM

Only one line in that whole story I'm interested in from Del:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

The bellend commentator on the sag game has just mentioned this. More of rugby city? NEVER. For me it's bollocks; simples.


I'll play devil's advocate. The game between the Gas and Villa is being played at a Rugby ground. Bristol are top of the rugby Championship table. To an outsider - and considering the recent form of us and the Gas in the FA Cup and also our football league positionings - Bristol will be seen as a 'rugby city'. Until this club gets back its top flight football status then we'll be seen as - primarily - a rugby city.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:39 AM

I've been misquoted slightly. I never said bewildered, I said we were consistently inconsistent.

Ah well


Did they also leave out the "I love you Tone" bit as well

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:39 AM

I'll play devil's advocate. The game between the Gas and Villa is being played at a Rugby ground. Bristol are top of the rugby Championship table. To an outsider - and considering the recent form of us and the Gas in the FA Cup and also our football league positionings - Bristol will be seen as a 'rugby city'. Until this club gets back its top flight football status then we'll be seen as - primarily - a rugby city.


Ok I'll respond.
To rugby followers, Daily Mail readers, or any middle class observer, Bristol is seen as a rugby city.
It's strange then , that a city of half a million people with rugby at it's heart, can only produce a second class rugby team with a following of a few thousand.
The people that claim this are ignorant of the real situation in Bristol. Rugby followers, which includes many many press journalists (because of their education), don't see the difference in the shape of the ball. They actually compare Premier League Rugby to Premier League football because both are at the top of the relevent sports, because of this they cannot be taken seriously when commenting about football.

As for the sighting of Bristol rugby shirts, our club IMHO, does not do itself any favours when promoting itself by not allowing goods to be sold on the open market, out of sight =out of mind. I believe that many people wear the rugby shirt as a token support for Bristol in general, they obviously don't attend.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:59 AM

Agree that there is a fair following for the rugger in our fair City, but nowhere near the combined fanbase for both football teams.

Oh, and you can buy City tops in Sports Direct & Asda now, not just the City Shop/Online.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:07 AM

I'm sorry as I like Rugby but do not follow Bristol Rugby too much -
Haven't they been relegated from English top flight league a couple of years ago ?
Just wandering as that would mean they can't be that good anymore...

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:07 AM

Ok I'll respond.
To rugby followers, Daily Mail readers, or any middle class observer, Bristol is seen as a rugby city.
It's strange then , that a city of half a million people with rugby at it's heart, can only produce a second class rugby team with a following of a few thousand.
The people that claim this are ignorant of the real situation in Bristol. Rugby followers, which includes many many press journalists (because of their education), don't see the difference in the shape of the ball. They actually compare Premier League Rugby to Premier League football because both are at the top of the relevent sports, because of this they cannot be taken seriously when commenting about football.

As for the sighting of Bristol rugby shirts, our club IMHO, does not do itself any favours when promoting itself by not allowing goods to be sold on the open market, out of sight =out of mind. I believe that many people wear the rugby shirt as a token support for Bristol in general, they obviously don't attend.


Again, well done Redcliffe 78 for posting the link to the Daily Mail article or I would have missed it because I only read newspapers if they're left lying around in work and then I read them in work's time. :laughcont:

Writing for myself, I watch the odd Bristol Rugby game but I watch City about ten times more often. The big advantage for supporters in watching rugby is the fact that you can buy beer and drink it on the terracing while watching the game. The Memorial Ground has square steel terracing bars so you can rest your pint on the bar while watching the game. Another reason why Bristol is seen as a rugby city is the fact that there have been far more rugby internationals from Bristol than football internationals. The only recent full England association football international from Bristol I can think of is Gary Mabbutt from 20+ years ago.

Edited by Red Goblin, 08 January 2012 - 10:08 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:13 AM

Never ever understood this label that Bristol is a rugby city, both football teams get bigger crowds than the 1 rugby team….. how can it be a rugby city?


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:22 AM

Both Bath and Gloucester are Rugby dominated cities - but not Bristol. There are however a large percentage of Rugby fans in Bristol (as opposed to Southampton etc). Bristols problem is that the paying public will follow a succesful brand name (because thats what they want to be associated with). Neither City or Rovers can offer a history dotted with significant silverware or regular top flight Football. It's a chicken and egg situation - we need support to aid success, but lasting success won't arrive til regular large support comes through the turnstiles.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:37 AM

I'm sorry as I like Rugby but do not follow Bristol Rugby too much -
Haven't they been relegated from English top flight league a couple of years ago ?
Just wandering as that would mean they can't be that good anymore...


In answer to your questions........

Bristol Rugby were relegated from the top flight about 3 seasons ago. Bristol Rugby have to share the Memorial Rugby ground with the Gas. About 4 seasons ago the Gas told Bristol Rugby that they would be redeveloping the Memorial Rugby ground and that Bristol Rugby would have to play elsewhere. Bristol Rugby then budgeted accordingly and didn't buy the calibre players needed to keep their Premier League status. Thus, partly due to more duplicity from the Gas, Bristol Rugby were relegated are now still a Championship club.

That written, Bristol finished top of the Rugby Championship a few seasons ago but still didn't go up because they didn't win the play off final against Exeter. That's one thing that's crap about the current rugby leagues - if you finish top of a league division you are not crowned as Champions unless you win a play-off final against a team that's finished below you. Odd, very odd. This has happened to Gloucester rugby club as well where they finished top of the Premier League but weren't crowned as champions as they didn't win the play-offs between the top 4 Premier League sides.

I've only watched Bristol rugby once this season and that was against London Welsh in late October. At that time Bristol were superb in attack but their defence was pretty dodgy with London Welsh scoring a few soft tries. Bristol won in the end in a thrilling game and are now - currently - some points clear at the top of the Championship. We might thus see Bristol in the Premier League again for next season. :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed:

Edited by Red Goblin, 08 January 2012 - 10:39 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:38 AM

Lets not get too hooked up on the Rugby city comment. The article also mentioned that Bristol was nice city with plenty of other things for people to do which is 100% spot on

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 11:17 AM

Again, well done Redcliffe 78 for posting the link to the Daily Mail article or I would have missed it because I only read newspapers if they're left lying around in work and then I read them in work's time. :laughcont:

Writing for myself, I watch the odd Bristol Rugby game but I watch City about ten times more often. The big advantage for supporters in watching rugby is the fact that you can buy beer and drink it on the terracing while watching the game. The Memorial Ground has square steel terracing bars so you can rest your pint on the bar while watching the game. Another reason why Bristol is seen as a rugby city is the fact that there have been far more rugby internationals from Bristol than football internationals. The only recent full England association football international from Bristol I can think of is Gary Mabbutt from 20+ years ago.


Obviously there will be more international players from a sport which is efectively in the minority. Bristol has been well represented and ultimately more successful in that minority sport, so naturally will have more international recognition, the same could be said for cricket. Football on the other hand has has provided minimal success to the city in the far larger sport of football, and as such has not warranted international recognition.

Cardiff is a much bigger rugby city than Bristol, yet it's one football team has been more successfull than both City and the cuckoos collectively. So it's all down to the success, or not of the teams. Is Cardiff seen as a rugby or football city?

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 11:51 AM

. Is Cardiff seen as a rugby or football city?


No, just a s**t hole

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