PunkRockDad Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Tremendous and inspiring act of kindness: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-gives-barefoot-bus-passenger-the-shoes-off-his-feet-9277865.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I saw this earlier, but the most amazing thing about it is that someone can get a Toronto City bus home to Surrey, British Columbia, which must be at least 2000 miles (if not more) to the west!!! Cynicism aside, it's a pretty cool story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I saw this earlier, but the most amazing thing about it is that someone can get a Toronto City bus home to Surrey, British Columbia, which must be at least 2000 miles (if not more) to the west!!! Cynicism aside, it's a pretty cool story There is a suburb of Toronto called Surrey, and it is near the 341 bus. I suspect a journalist in a rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 There is a suburb of Toronto called Surrey, and it is near the 341 bus. I suspect a journalist in a rush. Ah right; I saw British Columbia and thought "that's quite a long way to get a bus home from your mosque"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 24, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Have I missed something? Someone gave someone his shoes and socks ? Is that REALLY such a big story ? Not sure why or what the relevance of mentioning the guy was a Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Have I missed something? Someone gave someone his shoes and socks ? Is that REALLY such a big story ? Not sure why or what the relevance of mentioning the guy was a Muslim? The relevance is that some racist posters on this forum take any opportunity to slag off Muslims. Nice to see a positive post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I hope he hasn't got athletes foot or is a failed shoe bomber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Have I missed something? Someone gave someone his shoes and socks ? Is that REALLY such a big story ? Not sure why or what the relevance of mentioning the guy was a Muslim? I think the relevance of his faith is that he referenced it in his reasoning for doing it and in wanting to stay anonymous, but I agree that it probably didn't need to define the bloke in the headline, i.e. his definition has been altered from being 'an individual' to 'a Muslim'. I think it's a sad indictment of our society that such an act of kindness and charity IS such a big story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 A good gesture but hardly inspirational or tremendous. Religion doesn't come into it. Some people are good and some are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 24, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The relevance is that some racist posters on this forum take any opportunity to slag off Muslims. Nice to see a positive post. That doesn't make any sense to me - I questioned why it was relevant in the news story to point out the guy was a Muslim Not what relevance there was to posting a link on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 That doesn't make any sense to me - I questioned why it was relevant in the news story to point out the guy was a Muslim Not what relevance there was to posting a link on here I guess to point out via the media the not all muslims are bad. Hypocritical though, how many muslims, christians etc DONT carry out acts of kindness as their religion supposedly suggests they should, the majority I'd wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 In a newsflash just in, someone gave a hungry man some food. This was a great gesture. It happens every day, 99.99999999999999999% of people don't need to tell a newspaper about it. It's a terrible indictment of modern society that basic human kindness is used by the most pathetically inadequate to try to score some "points". Especially on a tiny, tiny forum such as this. Ha. How can you talk about scoring points. The minute any paper publishes a negative story about Muslims you put it on here straight away. Pot. Kettle. Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 In a newsflash just in, someone gave a hungry man some food. This was a great gesture. It happens every day, 99.99999999999999999% of people don't need to tell a newspaper about it. It's a terrible indictment of modern society that basic human kindness is used by the most pathetically inadequate to try to score some "points". Especially on a tiny, tiny forum such as this. As has been said by Tins, you and others frequently post articles demonstrating the evils of Islam based on the act of one man or a small handful of people, so why is this 'points scoring'? I believe the OP posted a link and indicated he thought it was a great story, where's the point scoring in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 SX225 is either the most consistent, determined troll on the World Wide Web or he has a selective memory and pathological liar disease. Not sure which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockDad Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 In a newsflash just in, someone gave a hungry man some food. This was a great gesture. It happens every day, 99.99999999999999999% of people don't need to tell a newspaper about it. It's a terrible indictment of modern society that basic human kindness is used by the most pathetically inadequate to try to score some "points". Especially on a tiny, tiny forum such as this. SX225 - Unless I am misreading your post, you appear to be saying that I am 'most pathetically inadequate'. I have no idea who you are but why would you think this way of me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 In a newsflash just in, someone gave a hungry man some food. This was a great gesture. It happens every day, 99.99999999999999999% of people don't need to tell a newspaper about it. It's a terrible indictment of modern society that basic human kindness is used by the most pathetically inadequate to try to score some "points". Especially on a tiny, tiny forum such as this. Have you given your shoes to a stranger who needed them more? And he didn't tell anyone about it - the bus driver did. I like this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 A good gesture but hardly inspirational or tremendous. Religion doesn't come into it. Some people are good and some are bad. I beg to differ, he was clearly motivated by his faith, he even said so. 1) To give him his shoes. 2) Not to seek praise for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I beg to differ, he was clearly motivated by his faith, he even said so. 1) To give him his shoes. 2) Not to seek praise for it. So he couldn't commit such an act without religion. Shame on him and those who need an excuse or even carrot on a stick (heaven) to do good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Have you given your shoes to a stranger who needed them more? And he didn't tell anyone about it - the bus driver did. I like this story. Yes it's a nice story. The questionable bit is PunkRockDad posting it on here like it's some kind of major counter-argument to the multiple evils spawned by the extreme branches of islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yes it's a nice story. The questionable bit is PunkRockDad posting it on here like it's some kind of major counter-argument to the multiple evils spawned by the extreme branches of islam. It's interesting that you interpreted a post that says "A tremendous and inspiring act of kindness" as a counter-argument to Islamic extremism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's interesting that you interpreted a post that says "A tremendous and inspiring act of kindness" as a counter-argument to Islamic extremism You're being deliberately obtuse, right? If this tremendous and inspiring act of kindness had been carried out by a Christian do you honestly, honestly think that PunkRockDad would have posted it on this forum? The answer by the way is "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yes it's a nice story. The questionable bit is PunkRockDad posting it on here like it's some kind of major counter-argument to the multiple evils spawned by the extreme branches of islam. I didn't see anything in the original post that mentioned it being a "major counter-argument" to anything. You chose to see it that way, which may say something about the way you see the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 You're being deliberately obtuse, right? If this tremendous and inspiring act of kindness had been carried out by a Christian do you honestly, honestly think that PunkRockDad would have posted it on this forum? The answer by the way is "no". PunkRockDad has made 15 posts on this forum. You know a lot about his motivation based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I didn't see anything in the original post that mentioned it being a "major counter-argument" to anything. You chose to see it that way, which may say something about the way you see the world. No, something about what has been the major point of debate on this forum over the last few months. I would not have judged it in the same way had I read it on another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 You're being deliberately obtuse, right? If this tremendous and inspiring act of kindness had been carried out by a Christian do you honestly, honestly think that PunkRockDad would have posted it on this forum? The answer by the way is "no". I didn't realise that you knew PunkRockDad and his innermost thoughts so well. He isn't one of the regular protagonists on these threads, so while you may be correct, I don't quite know how you've reached the conclusion you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moloch Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 No, something about what has been the major point of debate on this forum over the last few months. I would not have judged it in the same way had I read it on another forum. Not exactly a debate is it. More like racists vs lefties. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 PunkRockDad has made 15 posts on this forum. You know a lot about his motivation based on that. I didn't realise that you knew PunkRockDad and his innermost thoughts so well. He isn't one of the regular protagonists on these threads, so while you may be correct, I don't quite know how you've reached the conclusion you have Ok, as it clearly needs spelling out I will do so. There have been multiple posts on here highlighting various atrocities by muslims in this country and around the world (rape gangs, Kriss Donald killing, atrocities by insurgents in Syria, terrorism and attempted terrorism) and several of these have generated lengthy threads about islam. As this is a relatively quiet OT forum these have come to dominate the forum. So prior to this posting we have a forum dominated by what would be euphemistically termed "bad news" stories about muslims. Into this context (and it is about context, it is a forum with history and themes, not a tabula rasa) pops up a post about a man giving his shoes to somebody in Canada. Newsworthy beyond the local press, the Canadian national press and posted on this forum for a single reason: the man is muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ok, as it clearly needs spelling out I will do so. There have been multiple posts on here highlighting various atrocities by muslims in this country and around the world (rape gangs, Kriss Donald killing, atrocities by insurgents in Syria, terrorism and attempted terrorism) and several of these have generated lengthy threads about islam. As this is a relatively quiet OT forum these have come to dominate the forum. So prior to this posting we have a forum dominated by what would be euphemistically termed "bad news" stories about muslims. Into this context (and it is about context, it is a forum with history and themes, not a tabula rasa) pops up a post about a man giving his shoes to somebody in Canada. Newsworthy beyond the local press, the Canadian national press and posted on this forum for a single reason: the man is muslim. This thread has become about religion because a couple of posters chose to make it that. If no one mentions religion, then this thread would quietly die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ok, as it clearly needs spelling out I will do so. There have been multiple posts on here highlighting various atrocities by muslims in this country and around the world (rape gangs, Kriss Donald killing, atrocities by insurgents in Syria, terrorism and attempted terrorism) and several of these have generated lengthy threads about islam. As this is a relatively quiet OT forum these have come to dominate the forum. So prior to this posting we have a forum dominated by what would be euphemistically termed "bad news" stories about muslims. Into this context (and it is about context, it is a forum with history and themes, not a tabula rasa) pops up a post about a man giving his shoes to somebody in Canada. Newsworthy beyond the local press, the Canadian national press and posted on this forum for a single reason: the man is muslim. No, you didn't need to spell it out; we all knew what you were getting at, but you have inferred your attitude (or rather the counter to it) onto the OP without any justification for doing so. Now if you want to question the underlying justification for the article as news, that's fine but as far as I'm aware, PunkRockDad doesn't write human interest pieces for the Independent Anyway, let's presume for a moment that it was clearly posted within such a frame of reference. It's fine for others to infer that Muslims are all evil by posting articles about the acts of individual Muslims, so why is it disingenuous for someone to post something and infer that all Muslims are NOT evil because one of them did something nice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 No, you didn't need to spell it out; we all knew what you were getting at, but you have inferred your attitude (or rather the counter to it) onto the OP without any justification for doing so. Now if you want to question the underlying justification for the article as news, that's fine but as far as I'm aware, PunkRockDad doesn't write human interest pieces for the Independent Anyway, let's presume for a moment that it was clearly posted within such a frame of reference. It's fine for others to infer that Muslims are all evil by posting articles about the acts of individual Muslims, so why is it disingenuous for someone to post something and infer that all Muslims are NOT evil because one of them did something nice? It isn't if the post is framed in that way, it's fine to have a counter example if it is clearly flagged as that and not pretending to just be a random post as though PRD had not noticed both the many anti-muslim threads on here and the fact that the good samaritan (and isn't that what this is seeking to replicate without quite saying so) in the story is a msulim. If he had a history of posting random good news stories on OT then I would have taken this one at face value. He doesn't, I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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