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I'm disappointed that we didn't create anything, lacked a spark the whole game and our manager didn't make the changes that was necessary to liven the game up.. 

 

I just hope it's just our new players need time to bed in, because we also lacked a spark against Colchester is well.. I wouldn't say I'm worried, but there can be improvements.

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In truth the vast majority of posts I have read have been very balanced about it, and thought there may have been more negativity. Disappointed not to win, as we always should be when we drop points at home, but compared to disappointments of the last few years, this one hardly registers. We are competitive again, which is a huge step forward, if not yet dominant.

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I was happy with the clean sheet to be honest ! thought we shaded it in the first half but orient came out all guns blazing second half ,I think it was two good sides cancelling each other out to be honest.at the start of last season we would have caved in and lost about 3-0

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Heard Cotterill talking on the radio on the way home. He said the players in the dressing room were down as well. But that's how far we have come, we all know we are capable of a win now and are disappointed when we don't get one.

Only a few months ago we were waiting months for a win and a clean sheet. We have got all of those within 3 league matches. Funny old game eh?

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I was happy with the clean sheet to be honest ! thought we shaded it in the first half but orient came out all guns blazing second half ,I think it was two good sides cancelling each other out to be honest.at the start of last season we would have caved in and lost about 3-0

 

Completely agree.

 

Also, 7 points from 9 against teams that include 2 that are fancied for play-offs/promotion is really good.  If we maintain 2.33 points per game then we'll run away with the league (I don't think we will maintain that though).  0-0 is always a frustrating scoreline as you know that it only needed a smidgen of luck or quality to turn into 1-0 and three points.  

 

My only gripe is that JET came on so late, I hope that SC finds time to play him at some point - unless he's leaving?

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I am far from down about last nights match, the Team showed real grit and spirit. Aden Flint was Rock solid at the back, Marlon Pack worked hard and even though he made a couple of mistakes he was never shy about getting stuck in. Little looks like a real worker as well. All in all a decent result against one of the divisions most fancied sides. :city:  :chant6ez: And the Noise level was Great! :chant6ez::city:  Still cant get over people in the Williams leading the songs! 

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Heard Cotterill talking on the radio on the way home. He said the players in the dressing room were down as well. But that's how far we have come, we all know we are capable of a win now and are disappointed when we don't get one.

Only a few months ago we were waiting months for a win and a clean sheet. We have got all of those within 3 league matches. Funny old game eh?

Yup.  I'm delighted that we haven't had to wait until November this season for a win OR a clean sheet.

 

That said; think folks being on a downer reflects on the bi-polar nature of how this forum works sometime; people using words like "expectation" when it comes to getting results against a side who were play-off finalists last year scares the hell out of me.  It can only lead to people losing patience with the side quicker, which being many of the players are still bedding in is not great.

 

Hope we can pick ourselves up and go again against Rochdale, but have my feet firmly on the ground; would again take a point, putting us on eight from four, which is clear promotion form.  And being unbeaten going into the first week break of the season, and likely still in the top six, would be great for the squad's confidence.  And who knows; might be the perfect time for any new signings to get acclimatised...

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I should think everyone is on a downer because of the pre-season hype, where we were going to rip this division to shreds, probably go unbeaten for the entire season.  But what has happened?  A good opening win to send soaring expectations into the stratosphere then we lose to a team that was non-league not very long ago, despite us putting out a team anxious to show SC what they can do, and are bottom of the fourth division with no points, go behind to a team who are likely to get relegated and have just 1 point, then draw 0-0 with some team from the backwaters of East London.  All this in a division headed by a team from some fishing village in northern England that no one has ever heard of, it must be a weak division.  Christ, I am amazed we haven't got suicide watch on the Suspension Bridge (assuming it is open of course).

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Heard Cotterill talking on the radio on the way home. He said the players in the dressing room were down as well. But that's how far we have come, we all know we are capable of a win now and are disappointed when we don't get one.

Only a few months ago we were waiting months for a win and a clean sheet. We have got all of those within 3 league matches. Funny old game eh?

 

 

Exactly right,and we have played two promotion favourites in that sequence.

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No one I know who is realistic was down about the game.  We've matched a side that will finish top 6.  Key thing now is to get into the habit of winning games against the lesser sides in the division.  Given the number of new signings that are playing, we've had a brilliant start.

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I should think everyone is on a downer because of the pre-season hype, where we were going to rip this division to shreds, probably go unbeaten for the entire season.  But what has happened?  A good opening win to send soaring expectations into the stratosphere then we lose to a team that was non-league not very long ago, despite us putting out a team anxious to show SC what they can do, and are bottom of the fourth division with no points, go behind to a team who are likely to get relegated and have just 1 point, then draw 0-0 with some team from the backwaters of East London.  All this in a division headed by a team from some fishing village in northern England that no one has ever heard of, it must be a weak division.  Christ, I am amazed we haven't got suicide watch on the Suspension Bridge (assuming it is open of course).

 

Hadn't noticed that.

 

Oxford, 3 div.4 games played, 3 losses, joint bottom of the Football League.

 

Makes our performance against them even more of a disgrace.

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Exactly right,and we have played two promotion favourites in that sequence.

Good point, I meant to mention that, I really did. Glad we have got those games out of the way. I remember when the fixtures came out and people we saying what a tough start we had. Well we have come through with points, who would have though huh?

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Although it wasn't the most exciting game ever and there wasn't a lot of action in either box, I thought it was a good game and was a much higher standard of football than you see most of the time in this division.

 

Obviously it would have been nice if we could have nicked it at the end and we can all speculate as to whether some braver subs would have got us a win, but it was a decent point against what I think will be a team that finishes in the play-offs at least. One thing that I don't think can be argued with though is that 7 points from these 3 games, of which two, on paper at least, were against good sides at this level is a good haul. If we can perform well in our next three games against what looks weaker opposition than we will have had a very good start.

 

The Oxford game was of course an abomination and although you should never be surprised at us getting knocked out of the cup at the first time of asking by lower league opposition, it was still disappointing. Even more so when you look at Oxford's start apart from that and bear in mind that we really did make them look good that night.

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Heard Cotterill talking on the radio on the way home. He said the players in the dressing room were down as well. But that's how far we have come, we all know we are capable of a win now and are disappointed when we don't get one.

Only a few months ago we were waiting months for a win and a clean sheet. We have got all of those within 3 league matches. Funny old game eh?

Agreed.

However, on the flip side we clearly have gained a more than fair amount of fan expectation too.

A winning mentality is great, but suddenly after two wins some people think that's it - we're off, nothing else will do.

We need Small steps. We all want a good season, but let ting that expectation weigh on the players isn't healthy.

Remember a few seasons back with mcinnes when we had a decent start, beating cardiff 4-1 (or was it 4-2?)...

Not saying it will repeat itself, but I for one won't be getting carried away for a long while yet.

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Agreed.

However, on the flip side we clearly have gained a more than fair amount of fan expectation too.

A winning mentality is great, but suddenly after two wins some people think that's it - we're off, nothing else will do.

We need Small steps. We all want a good season, but let ting that expectation weigh on the players isn't healthy.

Remember a few seasons back with mcinnes when we had a decent start, beating cardiff 4-1 (or was it 4-2?)...

Not saying it will repeat itself, but I for one won't be getting carried away for a long while yet.

This; a thousand times this.

 

Was saying prior to Orient fans had started using words like "expect" and "should" when talking about results; that is a very, very unhealthy approach to take after just three matches, one of which we lost.

 

The Oxford game was 'hopefully' a blip, but it should be a warning to us, and Cotts too, about the depth of squad we possess.  They weren't a bunch of unknown youngsters, or out-in-the-cold fringe players; that team was basically our bench, plus a few of the first-choice-eleven.

 

We will need two or three to be (for me at least) genuine contenders, and I think that as fans, we need to look at sides like Orient, who (for example) have three strikers actively competing for a front place, scoring goals, and Sheffield United, who's teenage players like Reed and McGahey are keeping senior pros out of the starting line up, and realise that over the course of the season we may be shown to maybe not have the depth of other sides.

 

I think we have a good starting eleven, and a decent squad, but we seriously need to curb our enthusiasm until the new players have bedded in, and we've perhaps finished our transfer business before setting high expectations for this term.

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Agreed.

However, on the flip side we clearly have gained a more than fair amount of fan expectation too.

A winning mentality is great, but suddenly after two wins some people think that's it - we're off, nothing else will do.

We need Small steps. We all want a good season, but let ting that expectation weigh on the players isn't healthy.

Remember a few seasons back with mcinnes when we had a decent start, beating cardiff 4-1 (or was it 4-2?)...

Not saying it will repeat itself, but I for one won't be getting carried away for a long while yet.

Oh I agree. I have seen too much over the years to look too far ahead. I don't think we are playing anywhere near as good as we should be able to at the moment, but it's very early days with a big chunk of the team changed, totally new surface etc. I think we do need one or 2 additions to the squad still, and bringing in these players could make all the difference or totally upset things. We are still gelling, but we at least look like we will do.

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I'm not down, rather happy & content with how we've started if we can keep this up.

The only bad result's been the Oxford game because how they've started (Think it's just because it was us & they up'd their game while we dropped ours)

Great result against what was the league favourites on their patch & where we hadn't won in over half a century,

Another great result against Colchester after going behind with a goal that was against the run of play, if this was last year we would lost that 0-2 at best but we didn't & came out in the second half scored then got another for the win by a player a lot had written off before a ball was kicked bringing his tally upto 3 in 2.

Then finally a goal less draw against another team that'll be up there come the end more than likely with the only down being the fact we should had all 3 points after having a perfectly acceptable goal ruled out & maybe a bit of contentment from the manager being happy with the score line (or lack of it) and maybe not changing the team earlier to go for the win which is what a lot have said me being 1 them.

We're 3rd having won 2 drew 1 on 7Pts don't think there's any reason to be down in my eyes, so if after reading that you're feeling down then I think you need see a doctor as can't get much better as going out the cup is really a blessing imo even though I would liked seen more of a performance. COYR!!! :-D:-D:-D

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