Who Are Rovers? Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think for a home game last night, SC got his Midfield selection wrong. If you played 3 more solid midfielders away from home to keep it compact, understandable, but doing it at home almost set us out to be negative. Last night I think we missed the link between the Midfield and our Strike force, a player like a Freeman or a JET were missed in there. But I was thinking about why Luke was dropped, and watching him against Sheffield and Colchester, he can't express his pace and his trickery there, and he is almost wasted through the middle. I came up with a way of how of getting around this, and with Baldock getting very few chances through the middle at the moment, sticking him out on the right where he scored lots of his goals under SC last season may not be such a bad idea. Fielding Ayling Flint El-Abd Little Bryan Smith Elliot Baldock Freeman Wilbraham Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVMal Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 No Williams??? Arguably our best player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Am glad someone else is suggesting that Freeman and JET are more similar than JET and the other forwards; both (for me) will work best in tandem with a top two, and I hope that sooner rather than later, maybe with the addition of a new striking option, we might see this more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Are Rovers? Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 No Williams??? Arguably our best player! Really?! He gives the ball away often, and we seem to be getting constantly stripped and exploited down that left hand side. For me he gets caught out of position to many times, and I would bring in El-Abd, as he hasn't done a lot wrong this season when he has came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 20, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Was only "dropped" as he was not fully fit - give it a few weeks of the season and he will be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I disagree re Freeman He is a new player in the team with attributes mostly lacking from our team last year. I think it only needs him to get used to us and our players to him to bring the best out of him. That will only happen with games. We are also 3 games into the season - cobwebs are still being brushed out and full match fitness and sharpness achieved. I could of course be wrong, but I think it's worth persevering with at least for a couple of months before playing about with the shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 If either Baldock/Wilbraham aren't in the team I would love to see us try a 4-2-3-1 with both Jet and Freeman. Fielding Little - Flint - Williams - Cunningham Pack - Smith JET - Elliot - Freeman Wilbraham/Baldock Attacking mids would be allowed to interchange - in theory would be very exciting to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red mist Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I would have liked to see JET, Freeman and Elliott together for last 20 mins last night. Wilbraham was certainly tired ( wonder the last time he played even 2 conseq. Games within a few days). SC seems to be concerned by lack of cover at the back if we do not have 2 defensive mid field players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Are Rovers? Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 If either Baldock/Wilbraham aren't in the team I would love to see us try a 4-2-3-1 with both Jet and Freeman. Fielding Little - Flint - Williams - Cunningham Pack - Smith JET - Elliot - Freeman Wilbraham/Baldock Attacking mids would be allowed to interchange - in theory would be very exciting to watch I can't see him dropping either of them unless it comes down to fitness, and I can't see him radically changing the shape, the base of the 3-5-2 will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Really?! He gives the ball away often, and we seem to be getting constantly stripped and exploited down that left hand side. For me he gets caught out of position to many times, and I would bring in El-Abd, as he hasn't done a lot wrong this season when he has came on. I was dissapointed to see Freeman replaced with a defensive minded player. We were at home last night and arguably started with a team consisting of 8 defensive players, 1 attacking midfielder and 2 strikers. As for Williams, for me personally last night was one the best games I've seen him have. He was excellent in posession and solid defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Don't expect to see the best from this current set until we're a quarter of the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Freeman is basically a winger or possibly a left sided midfielder. He's wasted playing in the middle and it seems strange that Cotts bought him to play him out of position. As long as City play with wing backs he's never going to play in his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockleazeRed Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I don't think he was dropped or replaced last night was he? He wasn't given a full game after picking up a slight knock I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Freeman is basically a winger or possibly a left sided midfielder. He's wasted playing in the middle and it seems strange that Cotts bought him to play him out of position. As long as City play with wing backs he's never going to play in his best position. Cotts spoke that he might take a year to really find Freeman's best position, and I think that so far he's performed well through the middle, certainly considering A) he's only just started playing there, and B) we've played some decent sides. I think once we play sides who are less able to deal with the threats we present in terms of our strikers and wing-backs, then he'll shine; at Stevenage he was their primary talent and attacking outlet, so was frequently closely guarded, while here he will be one of several threats for opposition defences to deal with, and should flourish given that space, eventually at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 No Williams??? Arguably our best player! Not this season, flatters to deceive imo. Often beaten in the air, caught out of position and very poor distribution - he really gives the ball away alot, as well as often booting it unnecessarily in to touch. He seems to be popular so the crowd overlook much of this, but that won't continue for ever if he's less fortunate with the aftermath of his errors and the opposition start to get goals from them. He can be thankful Flint has been playing out of his skin so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hope Freeman was carrying a knock as on one defensive back-track Saturday he resembled Crisp coming round the elbow at Aintree. Lots of talk here of his pace but I've yet to see it - kid though needs to be given a chance to show where he can play and what he can do. Last night showed that in our more mobile and expansive play Bryan is something in nothing: no end product, one footed, unable to beat defenders. Pack too needs to muscle up or ship out: fades quickly , didn't drop back to pick up the ball enough and seems unable to play the short simple pass (and he isn't as proficient with the longer stuff as his confidence leads him to believe he is.) Those calling for JET's return - I think we need an easy fixture to see whether with our faster, more direct, approach he'll be able to keep up with play. I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Cotts said at the start of the season that he didnt know Freemans best position,give him time to work it out i say. Freeman is showing signs he needs to settle in, im sure he will be a great signing and i think he will play behind the front 2 most of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think for a home game last night, SC got his Midfield selection wrong. If you played 3 more solid midfielders away from home to keep it compact, understandable, but doing it at home almost set us out to be negative. Last night I think we missed the link between the Midfield and our Strike force, a player like a Freeman or a JET were missed in there. But I was thinking about why Luke was dropped, and watching him against Sheffield and Colchester, he can't express his pace and his trickery there, and he is almost wasted through the middle. I came up with a way of how of getting around this, and with Baldock getting very few chances through the middle at the moment, sticking him out on the right where he scored lots of his goals under SC last season may not be such a bad idea. Fielding Ayling Flint El-Abd Little Bryan Smith Elliot Baldock Freeman Wilbraham Thoughts? Whilst I want El-Abd to get a start I think it's better sticking with Williams at the left side of a back 3. If Cotterill decides to start with 4 at the back I'm all for El-Abd to get a start as he's been solid when he's came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Freemans not that quick, and never has been. It's his trickery and ability to get to his too speed quickly that gets him past players. What would be good to see would be JET, Freeman and Baldock all playing off of each other Fielding -----------Ayling---Flint---Williams Little----------------------------------------Cunningham --------------Elliott-----Smith --------JET------------------------------Freeman ---------------------Baldock Granted that it's a little uneven, but it gives freeman the ability to go outside or cut inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Cotts said at the start of the season that he didnt know Freemans best position,give him time to work it out i say. Freeman is showing signs he needs to settle in, im sure he will be a great signing and i think he will play behind the front 2 most of the season One thing's for sure - he ain't a goal-keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not this season, flatters to deceive imo. Often beaten in the air, caught out of position and very poor distribution - he really gives the ball away alot, as well as often booting it unnecessarily in to touch. He seems to be popular so the crowd overlook much of this, but that won't continue for ever if he's less fortunate with the aftermath of his errors and the opposition start to get goals from them. He can be thankful Flint has been playing out of his skin so far this season. Can't agree with your opinion on Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hope Freeman was carrying a knock as on one defensive back-track Saturday he resembled Crisp coming round the elbow at Aintree. Lots of talk here of his pace but I've yet to see it - kid though needs to be given a chance to show where he can play and what he can do. Last night showed that in our more mobile and expansive play Bryan is something in nothing: no end product, one footed, unable to beat defenders. Pack too needs to muscle up or ship out: fades quickly , didn't drop back to pick up the ball enough and seems unable to play the short simple pass (and he isn't as proficient with the longer stuff as his confidence leads him to believe he is.) Those calling for JET's return - I think we need an easy fixture to see whether with our faster, more direct, approach he'll be able to keep up with play. I have my doubts. Bryan has no end product?! He's one of only two City players to score this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hope Freeman was carrying a knock as on one defensive back-track Saturday he resembled Crisp coming round the elbow at Aintree. Lots of talk here of his pace but I've yet to see it - kid though needs to be given a chance to show where he can play and what he can do. Last night showed that in our more mobile and expansive play Bryan is something in nothing: no end product, one footed, unable to beat defenders. Pack too needs to muscle up or ship out: fades quickly , didn't drop back to pick up the ball enough and seems unable to play the short simple pass (and he isn't as proficient with the longer stuff as his confidence leads him to believe he is.) Those calling for JET's return - I think we need an easy fixture to see whether with our faster, more direct, approach he'll be able to keep up with play. I have my doubts. Sorry but you could not be more wrong about Bryan, he's shown that he has got a end product by the fact he's already scored this season and has put In more than a few good crosses with real whip and pace about them, Also all 3 of his goals he's scored in total have all been with his Right foot, not bad for being 1 footed ay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Thoughts?My thoughts are that Freeman tweaked his groin on Saturday and was on the bench to avoid any further tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 My thoughts are that Freeman tweaked his groin on Saturday and was on the bench to avoid any further tweaking.I keep hearing about groin tweaking but I'm not sure if it's some new sexual practice or something rather painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I keep hearing about groin tweaking but I'm not sure if it's some new sexual practice or something rather painful.It is both.... well judging by his facial expression when talking to the boss about it whilst having a little rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I was dissapointed to see Freeman replaced with a defensive minded player. We were at home last night and arguably started with a team consisting of 8 defensive players, 1 attacking midfielder and 2 strikers. As for Williams, for me personally last night was one the best games I've seen him have. He was excellent in posession and solid defensively. Really! Let me know what stand you were in as it is the opposite to what I saw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Sorry but you could not be more wrong about Bryan, he's shown that he has got a end product by the fact he's already scored this season and has put In more than a few good crosses with real whip and pace about them, Also all 3 of his goals he's scored in total have all been with his Right foot, not bad for being 1 footed ay? Everyone scores eventually; jeez, I even saw Cashley net! Bryan's crossing and distribution isn't good (it's poor) and if he's a right foot how comes he'll only attack defenders left side, hence they step inside given they know he's a one trick, paceless pony? We desperately need a wide man and he ain't it - neither is Burns ( who next time he's given a chance should play 'up the gut' where he does in the stiffs and if that doesn't work we'll know where we stand.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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otib118 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Everyone scores eventually; jeez, I even saw Cashley net! Bryan's crossing and distribution isn't good (it's poor) and if he's a right foot how comes he'll only attack defenders left side, hence they step inside given they know he's a one trick, paceless pony? We desperately need a wide man and he ain't it - neither is Burns ( who next time he's given a chance should play 'up the gut' where he does in the stiffs and if that doesn't work we'll know where we stand.) Still feel the same about Bryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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