The Socialist Republic Of Rotherham

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Held up by labour in may as one of their great successes.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/26/rotherham-sexual-abuse-children

 

 

[Barrs Court Red]

Didn't a horrific story involving their social services come to light last year too?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Didn't a horrific story involving their social services come to light last year too?

 

or was that another shining beacon of socialism called Rochdale.

[Red-Robbo]

or was that another shining beacon of socialism called Rochdale.

That's a Lib Dems council, Es.

We could also mention Elm House - the pervert MPs gaff of choice for a spot of fiddling, located in perennially Tory Richmond-upon-Thames.

Pointless trying to make political capital out of it. Social services departments are full of the PC "we must be ethnically sensitive" types in all council areas. This is just another in a long list of shame showing where that approach has got us.

[Davros]

I think every person who turned a blind eye should be fired, jailed and banned from ever working in a position of responsibility ever again. To many of these ****wits seem to be completely unaccountable 1400 kids on their watch for gods sake had to be criminal.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Another shit labour council. Hardly socialist though. Put a dead dog up for a labour seat and it would win. However in this case, the issues are poor case working by police and social services, not a party political issue per se. Still, you've had a read of your daily mail and I suppose you want to use this to have a go at the socialist bogey men (and women).

[Esmond Million's Bung]

That's a Lib Dems council, Es.

We could also mention Elm House - the pervert MPs gaff of choice for a spot of fiddling, located in perennially Tory Richmond-upon-Thames.

Pointless trying to make political capital out of it. Social services departments are full of the PC "we must be ethnically sensitive" types in all council areas. This is just another in a long list of shame showing where that approach has got us.

 

But how many of these had upwards of 11 councillor's continually trying to suppress this using the race card at every turn?, let's put it this way as with Rochdale the white population knew exactly what was going on but were never allowed a voice, it's hardly an advert for labours claim of multiculturalism is it?.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Another shit labour council. Hardly socialist though. Put a dead dog up for a labour seat and it would win. However in this case, the issues are poor case working by police and social services, not a party political issue per se. Still, you've had a read of your daily mail and I suppose you want to use this to have a go at the socialist bogey men (and women).

 

Should have gone to specsavers, the link is to the guardian or is that on the OTIB proscribed list?

[Mr Mosquito]

Another shit labour council. Hardly socialist though. Put a dead dog up for a labour seat and it would win. However in this case, the issues are poor case working by police and social services, not a party political issue per se. Still, you've had a read of your daily mail and I suppose you want to use this to have a go at the socialist bogey men (and women).

 

Indeed, another shit Labour Council that's not quite socialist but very 'politically correct' and Cultural Marxist. It is a party political issue because the elected Police Kommandant is Labour and he was also head of children's services for a great many years when the grooming and raping of young vulnerable children by the Pakistani Muslims was going on.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Should have gone to specsavers, the link is to the guardian or is that on the OTIB proscribed list?

The guardian is blaming socialism for the rape of children and council and police failings to stop said rapes? Wow, didn't see that coming.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Indeed, another shit Labour Council that's not quite socialist but very 'politically correct' and Cultural Marxist. It is a party political issue because the elected Police Kommandant is Labour and he was also head of children's services for a great many years when the grooming and raping of young vulnerable children by the Pakistani Muslims was going on.

No this isn't a party political issue. Rotherham council is one of those one party states where corruption by lazy self-serving crap councillor sis rife. Take away any opposition scrutiny and people do what they want . Rotherham has since elected different party councilors. But at the end of the day I doubt many if any councilors attended the case conferences of these young girls and decided they had consensual sex with the older Asian men. This is a safeguarding practice issue. The police would have attended and would know the law on child rape. Looks like institutional abuse to me.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

The guardian is blaming socialism for the rape of children and council and police failings to stop said rapes? Wow, didn't see that coming.

 

Nor did the police, social services and Rotherham labour council over a 6 year period and after 4 separate dossiers of evidence were handed to each of these agencies, so your not alone.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Nor did the police, social services and Rotherham labour council over a 6 year period and after 4 separate dossiers of evidence were handed to each of these agencies, so your not alone.

So explain the fault of socialism in this case then...

[Esmond Million's Bung]

So explain the fault of socialism in this case then...

 

I don't think I have, as you pointed out the guardian has.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

I don't think I have, as you pointed out the guardian has.

There is no reference to socialism in the article. Are you attempting to make reference to the peoples republic of South Yorkshire? A reference made by the right wing media to the former metropolitan county council abolished by the Tories in favour of tin pot local councils like Rotherham? Or are you just having a cheap shot at labour because you don't like 'red' ed?

[Mr Mosquito]

No this isn't a party political issue. Rotherham council is one of those one party states where corruption by lazy self-serving crap councillor sis rife. Take away any opposition scrutiny and people do what they want . Rotherham has since elected different party councilors. But at the end of the day I doubt many if any councilors attended the case conferences of these young girls and decided they had consensual sex with the older Asian men. This is a safeguarding practice issue. The police would have attended and would know the law on child rape. Looks like institutional abuse to me.

 

The party political and race issue is in the fact that the middle class whitey Labour councillors - including the elected Labour Party Police Kommandant - betrayed the vulnerable abused children who are probably of poor working class backgrounds. These are the very children that the Labour Party - via a great deal of Trades Union funding - are supposed to help protect and nurture.

[Red-Robbo]

But how many of these had upwards of 11 councillor's continually trying to suppress this using the race card at every turn?, let's put it this way as with Rochdale the white population knew exactly what was going on but were never allowed a voice, it's hardly an advert for labours claim of multiculturalism is it?.

I'm not sure that's been established. What is more the case is that abuse was established, but they were terrified of saying that the abusers were of Pakistani origin. That's a sort of "don't mention the elephant in the room" but isn't the same as 11 councillors covered abuse up.

It's shyte though. When I was a reporter many moons back, I was trying to say "it isn't coincidental to these cases to mention the race of the abuse gangs".

Guess I had the week off when those "cultural Marxism" indoctrination courses of which Gobbers speaks took place!

[Mr Mosquito]

I'm not sure that's been established. What is more the case is that abuse was established, but they were terrified of saying that the abusers were of Pakistani origin. That's a sort of "don't mention the elephant in the room" but isn't the same as 11 councillors covered abuse up.

It's shyte though. When I was a reporter many moons back, I was trying to say "it isn't coincidental to these cases to mention the race of the abuse gangs".

Guess I had the week off when those "cultural Marxism" indoctrination courses of which Gobbers speaks took place!

 

Indeed, it's the middle class whitey Labour Party political commissars that do the cultural Marxist indoctrinations. The abusers of the Pakistani Muslim origin have then taken full advantage of this cultural Marxist ethos where they can't be criticized and they had immunity from prosecution for as long as there was a Labour government. 

[Mr Mosquito]

Held up by labour in may as one of their great successes.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/26/rotherham-sexual-abuse-children

 

I don't want to see the break up of the UK but one advantage of an independent Scotland is that we would be far less likely to come under the cultural Marxist yoke of a Scottish led Labour government ever again. The Pakistani Muslim rape and grooming gangs only had immunity from prosecution for as long as there was a Labour government.

[Portland Bill]

I don't want to see the break up of the UK but one advantage of an independent Scotland is that we would be far less likely to come under the cultural Marxist yoke of a Scottish led Labour government ever again. The Pakistani Muslim rape and grooming gangs only had immunity from prosecution for as long as there was a Labour government.

Oh dear!

[Esmond Million's Bung]

There is no reference to socialism in the article. Are you attempting to make reference to the peoples republic of South Yorkshire? A reference made by the right wing media to the former metropolitan county council abolished by the Tories in favour of tin pot local councils like Rotherham? Or are you just having a cheap shot at labour because you don't like 'red' ed?

 

Well that's confused me because you said "The guardian is blaming socialism for the rape of children and council and police failings to stop said rapes? Wow, didn't see that coming". Which sort of impies that you read the article and that was your understanding of it, but I suppose you had an excuse because your eyes thought you were reading the daily mail and surely a forum is good place to take a cheap shot at politicians, everybody else does so it must be the law.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Well that's confused me because you said "The guardian is blaming socialism for the rape of children and council and police failings to stop said rapes? Wow, didn't see that coming". Which sort of impies that you read the article and that was your understanding of it, but I suppose you had an excuse because your eyes thought you were reading the daily mail and surely a forum is good place to take a cheap shot at politicians, everybody else does so it must be the law.

Don't be ridiculous, I was being ironic.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Don't be ridiculous, I was being ironic.

 

of course you were.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Police crime commissioner Shaun Wright has got to go. The more you read about theis case the more corruption and negligence is revealed. Leading Pakistani councillors attempted to block reports of care workers knowledge of the Pakistani child rape gang for fear it would cause critisicm of thier community and increase the presence of the EDL in thier town through using a high court injunction!

The police are also revealed as treating the victims with contempt. Probably thought they were little slags.

Corruption and negligence. A rotten borough.

[The Batman]

On this day in 1963, the great Dr Martin Luther King gave his "I have a dream" speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial

 

Within that speech, he said

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character"

 

Well all these years later, we have not moved on.

 

Quite frankly, I would not care what colour or what background these guys were, they should have been arrested within ten minutes of it coming to the services' knowledge. I imagine now, you'll have people working there who have not been interviewed claiming they were not aware of it just to save their own skin and their job.

 

Is it a Socialist problem??? Not to the extreme like others may be making out, although it does not help that 3 years ago, the Socialist Worker printed an article about their anger at an EDL march trying to expose this going on, stating that all they were trying to do was cause racial tension in the area. I expect the there may have been a hidden agenda to this by the EDL (I have no time for them either), but it doesn't help that the Socialist Worker were trying to cover over it by playing the race card to anyone who dared bring it to light. Similar to that of the Council it appears.

[The Batman]

in addition to my post above

 

http://socialistworker.co.uk/art/38874/Whats+behind+the+child+abuse+horror+in+Rotherham%3F - that's from the magazine, blaming cuts as opposed to those who did these deeds.That, and there are only 4 lines dedicated to it

 

If you go to the Socialist Worker Party website, they have a Mark Duggan tribute, details about the Mike Brown incident in America, lots of Israel hatred, NHS etc.... nothing on Rotherham.

 

Not helping themselves.

[Red-Robbo]

in addition to my post above

http://socialistworker.co.uk/art/38874/Whats+behind+the+child+abuse+horror+in+Rotherham%3F - that's from the magazine, blaming cuts as opposed to those who did these deeds.That, and there are only 4 lines dedicated to it

If you go to the Socialist Worker Party website, they have a Mark Duggan tribute, details about the Mike Brown incident in America, lots of Israel hatred, NHS etc.... nothing on Rotherham.

Not helping themselves.

But who's in Socialist Worker these days? About 20 students and a couple of lecturers. An irrelevance.

There isn't actually a socialist party in England these days.

[Davros]

There are rapists from all communities and backgrounds but in this particular case (and the thousands more throughout England waiting to be discovered) the rapists were muslim and they (though not all muslims I hope) view non-muslim women as kuffar sh-it.  In my mind the muslims who did this were racists and people need to prepare themselves for more racism from this community (as if we haven't had enough already).

 

Back to the point, yes it is a Socialist problem.  A sense of national identity, of belonging to a culture, of love for your particular history and identity and values and ideas and the wish to defend them is anathema to Socialism.  This is the back drop. It's not theory nor conspiracy. It literally has been working itself out over several decades in the UK and this is one of the reasons 13 year old girls in Rotherham were gang-raped by muslim men.

 

That is utter cobblers, what they did in the eyes of Islam is adultery and a mortal sin, they abandoned Islam and filled their perverted little boots while the police/couicil turned a blind eye.  The whole world sees this as a failing on the Local Council & Police and Social services, you on the other hand see it as somthing different.

[Davros]

[Mr Mosquito]