Colombo Robin Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just had a look on the Brizzle Sport website at the stadium plans. Looks gert nice it does and no doubt these are exciting times to be a city fan. Had a couple of thoughts that I couldn't find the answers to. Firstly is there space to develop the Ateyo Stand later on if we want to further increase capacity, (for champions league games 3 years from now). The final plan looks a bit weird with all the other stands joined and the Ateyo just a tag on. Secondly are they planning to put the tunnel back where it used to be? Personally I think its much better when the players come out on the half way line. Plus if it remains where it is the players will be entering and leaving via the away fans which I'd say hands them an advantage small though it may seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 We can't do any thing we with the atyeo at the minute I believe apart from filling in where the tunnel is because the tunnel is going to be in the new Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I guess you're referring to this page: http://www.bristol-sport.co.uk/ashton-gate-rebuild/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyone else happy with the redevelopment on Ashton Gate as opposed to the new stadium? Thought it was a massive blow to the future of the club at first but being at the gate just feels right. Agreed that they will need to do something with the ateyo though. Does look a little out of place along with the three new stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyone else happy with the redevelopment on Ashton Gate as opposed to the new stadium? Thought it was a massive blow to the future of the club at first but being at the gate just feels right. Agreed that they will need to do something with the ateyo though. Does look a little out of place along with the three new stands. rather of had the new build but this is the next best thing, would couldn't continue leaving it as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colombo Robin Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I guess you're referring to this page: http://www.bristol-sport.co.uk/ashton-gate-rebuild/ That's right. I'd say image 17 looks a bit odd. Not that i'm complaining about the redevelopment. Just wondered if further developments had been discussed and if so how it would work? Anyone in the know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 1) We only have permission to rebuild the EastEnders and the Williams. There isn't the room or need to rebuild the dolman. Can't rebuild the Atyeo due to lighting for the houses behind. 2) State of the art changing rooms will be built in the new williams. So players will enter from the half way line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 1) We only have permission to rebuild the EastEnders and the Williams. There isn't the room or need to rebuild the dolman. Can't rebuild the Atyeo due to lighting for the houses behind. 2) State of the art changing rooms will be built in the new williams. So players will enter from the half way line. the front of dolman is being rebuilt as well as an extensive refit on the interior of the stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerRed Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyone else happy with the redevelopment on Ashton Gate as opposed to the new stadium? Thought it was a massive blow to the future of the club at first but being at the gate just feels right. Agreed that they will need to do something with the ateyo though. Does look a little out of place along with the three new stands. Not at all happy with the refurb. Despite what the board say, it was and is very much a second best option. Sure, it'll be better than it currently is, but it's still causing inconvenience and expense to the club during two whole seasons, and the Atyeo looks ridiculous alone at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerRed Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 ...and if we ever did reach the top flight again and, god forbid, ever had some relative success there, it wouldn't be big enough, and will cause a traffic and parking utter nightmare for fans and residents alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colombo Robin Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I get the emotional attachment to Ashton Gate and in some ways am happy to be staying there. Just wouldn't feel right walking down past David Lloyds to the other site before a game. Plus I think stadiums look much better surrounded by houses instead of fields. But Ashton Vale would have been much better business wise and unfortunately that's what matters these days if you want to be successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not at all happy with the refurb. Despite what the board say, it was and is very much a second best option. Sure, it'll be better than it currently is, but it's still causing inconvenience and expense to the club during two whole seasons, and the Atyeo looks ridiculous alone at the end. nothing else the board could do tho was there, we'd still be fighting now and nothing would happen if we didn't go for the rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Block Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not at all happy with the refurb. Despite what the board say, it was and is very much a second best option. Sure, it'll be better than it currently is, but it's still causing inconvenience and expense to the club during two whole seasons, and the Atyeo looks ridiculous alone at the end. So what do you expect us to do? Continue fighting for Ashton Vale whilst losing millions a year for legal bills etc? Look at Brighton although they got their stadium in the end it took about 15 years to get it we just can't afford to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 1) We only have permission to rebuild the EastEnders and the Williams. There isn't the room or need to rebuild the dolman.Can't rebuild the Atyeo due to lighting for the houses behind. 2) State of the art changing rooms will be built in the new williams. So players will enter from the half way line. Where is a right to light in planning these days? I didn't think it came into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Personally I'm delighted that we are staying on the same site and will also get a state of the art stadium. Let us not get too far ahead of ourselves worrying about the ground being big enough for the Premier league, but in comparrison won't the ground be similar in size to places like Stoke, Swansea, West Brom etc? The only loss with staying is that all the contractural transport links / coaches etc that would have been applied wont happen now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I was disappointed but it will certainly do for the medium term. Thing is though, we need to face reality. Getting anything big built in Bristol is near impossible. For whatever reason the vocal minority interest groups (completely unelected) hold massive influence over the tin pot councillors. There's no bigger picture when making decisions, only short term point scoring. In this environment, I just can't see how it can happen. People will point to Ashton Vale being granted permission as a rebuttal to my view, but it was elements in the council itself that worked against that project, from leaks to the appointment of an adjudicator who seemingly had a record that only agreed to village greens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Where is a right to light in planning these days? I didn't think it came into it? it doesn't any more I thought, anyway we don't need to redevelop the Atyeo as its big enough on its own for an away end, I'm sure if we were hitting 23k every week we may consider rebuilding the atyeo then but its just not needed and would be a waste of money at the moment, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not at all happy with the refurb. Despite what the board say, it was and is very much a second best option. Sure, it'll be better than it currently is, but it's still causing inconvenience and expense to the club during two whole seasons, and the Atyeo looks ridiculous alone at the end. I get it is very much second best but personally I dont think its that bad. Ashton Gate is our home. When you see some of the new lego stadiums around the country and how bad they look then things could be a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Getting anything big built in Bristol is near impossible. For whatever reason the vocal minority interest groups (completely unelected) hold massive influence over the tin pot councillors. I see one of the more vocal campaigners against Ashton Vale has now popped up to block the new tram system in Bristol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 1) We only have permission to rebuild the EastEnders and the Williams. There isn't the room or need to rebuild the dolman. Can't rebuild the Atyeo due to lighting for the houses behind. 2) State of the art changing rooms will be built in the new williams. So players will enter from the half way line. Are we going to be made bionic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 As long as the club snap up all the relevant real estate when it comes on the market the stadium can still grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Stoke/Swansea/Hull seem to cope pretty well with 28-30k capacity grounds. I'm not sure should we ever get the PL (and that still remains a very distant dream that may never materialise)that we'd routinely fill it week in week out. I think 28k would be more than ample. If we established ourselves then sure.. we can review the Atyeo at that point. The right to light is no longer a planning constraint and it's possible that we could rebuild it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Where is a right to light in planning these days? I didn't think it came into it? Ironically the tree's opposite the houses are so big they create an almost permanent shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 rather of had the new build but this is the next best thing, would couldn't continue leaving it as it is And in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Bristol Rugby will use the current changing rooms and enter the pitch via the Atyeo stand BCFC will use a new tunnel and changing rooms in the new Williams stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm sure our lovely council and mayor would put a forced purchase into force if we needed the atyeo knocked down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Looking at those pictures I see we are just a few white seats from an excellent advertising opportunity with Bisto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerRed Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 So what do you expect us to do? Continue fighting for Ashton Vale whilst losing millions a year for legal bills etc? Look at Brighton although they got their stadium in the end it took about 15 years to get it we just can't afford to do this. Did I say do nothing? I'm just more than disappointed at what we are going to end up with. I've been going to Ashton Gate for nearly 40 years and don't get the spiritual argument at all. No room for sentiment in business I'm afraid. Clearly we have to redevelope the Gate, but I would hope/assume a site for a designated new stadium is still being sought. In fact I would hope Ashton Vale is still a potential site in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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