The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Terrible substitutions made AGAIN, inviting the opposition team back in the game. Today at 3-1 we should have put Fleetwood to bed. Instead we took off our pace/attacking outlets and tried to cling on, yet still playing the same tactics eg the balls into the channels for the likes of Agard, Bryan Freeman to chase who were at this point sat on the bench. At 3-1 the game was crying out for JET, a player who can hold the ball up, run the channels, produce goals from nothing. His very being on the pitch means defenders doubling up on him which of course creates gaps to exploit. We are still unbeaten and today we played a decent team. We lost 2 points today, not down to any single player, but by inept tactics and substitutions, that's the fault of the manager and a reoccurring one at that. The sad thing is I'd of taken a point today at 3pm. .........oh yes I do know we are still top and unbeaten in the league, doesn't mean that there's not lessons to be learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstoke Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well said wolfy, lets hope cotts learns from this should have been 3 points but lets be positive, we would have defo lost this game last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Terrible substitutions made AGAIN, inviting the opposition team back in the game. Today at 3-1 we should have put Fleetwood to bed. Instead we took off our pace/attacking outlets and tried to cling on, yet still playing the same tactics eg the balls into the channels for the likes of Agard, Bryan Freeman to chase who were at this point sat on the bench. At 3-1 the game was crying out for JET, a player who can hold the ball up, run the channels, produce goals from nothing. His very being on the pitch means defenders doubling up on him which of course creates gaps to exploit. We are still unbeaten and today we played a decent team. We lost 2 points today, not down to any single player, but by inept tactics and substitutions, that's the fault of the manager and a reoccurring one at that. The sad thing is I'd of taken a point today at 3pm. .........oh yes I do know we are still top and unbeaten in the league, doesn't mean that there's not lessons to be learned. Well that didn't take long did it...... shocking post.... either Mr Cotterill has done something really bad too you personally or your a very angry man.... I hope you don't celebrate when we win.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well said wolfy, lets hope cotts learns from this should have been 3 points but lets be positive, we would have defo lost this game last season. He keeps doing though mate. This isn't beyond the realms of reason but we could have won every league game if it were not for inviting pressure when the game is ours for the taking. I know this is harsh but I want City to win this league or at least go up, lets not make it hard for ourselves. I'd also sack Cottrell if we get promoted, as he's not capable of pushing on in the championship. If BCFC and Bristol Sport wants to be taken seriously then no less than Arsene Wenger should be appointed..................... .................ok I went a bit far there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 He keeps doing though mate. This isn't beyond the realms of reason but we could have won every league game if it were not for inviting pressure when the game is ours for the taking. I know this is harsh but I want City to win this league or at least go up, lets not make it hard for ourselves. I'd also sack Cottrell if we get promoted, as he's not capable of pushing on in the championship. If BCFC and Bristol Sport wants to be taken seriously then no less than Arsene Wenger should be appointed..................... .................ok I went a bit far there. Sorry mate but how is being 5 points clear making it hard for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sorry mate but how is being 5 points clear making it hard for us? Some people are never happy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well that didn't take long did it...... shocking post.... either Mr Cotterill has done something really bad too you personally or your a very angry man.... I hope you don't celebrate when we win.... No, were unbeaten, top of the league and I'm happy. Today felt like a loss, simply because we were out thought and our substitutions invited pressure. Some people...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Don't see how jet helps us at all anymore...he is for me now only ever going to be an impact sub if we are losing or drawing and cotts needs something different....he is now a luxury that we could probably do without and not notice anymore...I'm sure cotts thinks the same and he is now just waiting for his next move....jet is finished with bcfc imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Some people are never happy..... You haven't got a clue, I am happy yet I'm entitled to draw opinion on what I saw. Don't assume, it makes you sound like a****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Don't see how jet helps us at all anymore...he is for me now only ever going to be an impact sub if we are losing or drawing and cotts needs something different....he is now a luxury that we could probably do without and not notice anymore...I'm sure cotts thinks the same and he is now just waiting for his next move....jet is finished with bcfc imo What if we get a few injuries? Ps I agree, I think SC doesn't want him and its glaringly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 jet is finished with bcfc imo I tend to get this feeling aswell. Having said that it would only take an injury and JET could find himself right back in the frame with a point to prove.. Its a long old season and we will need the vast majority of the squad to play there part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 No, were unbeaten, top of the league and I'm happy.Today felt like a loss, simply because we were out thought and our substitutions invited pressure. Some people...... it might feel like a loss but we gained another point, we are now 5 points clear and we started the day 4 points clear, that is progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sorry mate but how is being 5 points clear making it hard for us? Mate, wait for the season to progress a little. I'm overjoyed with where we are and to be unbeaten is brilliant. Orient we're doing well this time last year, teams raise their game against the top teams and Fleetwood did that well today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 What if we get a few injuries? Ps I agree, I think SC doesn't want him and its glaringly obvious. Yeah of course a few injuries and he gets a chance, but he stood out in a poor side under o'driscoll last year, his form deteriorated under cotts....I would like us to get rid at earliest opportunity he is just a luxury and has found his level....McCarthy could not wait to get rid of him at Ipswich and he is a good manager.... Think a few tricks blinds some of our fans, but for me he simply doesn't fit into modern football especially at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 it might feel like a loss but we gained another point, we are now 5 points clear and we started the day 4 points clear, that is progress. If you'd have gone you'd be feeling the same as me and the 884 others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 You can be 1. Happy with Cotterill 2. Happy we are unbeaten at the top of the league 3. Frustrated at today's substitutions which invited pressure and indirectly caused them to score 4. Disappointed we threw away a 2 goal lead against a side we could and should have beaten. It's more likely people who didn't see the game will be less disappointed and be happy at the result and league placing like I would be but those who saw the game would have seen the impact and how we threw away the initiative. That's my view anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 If you'd have gone you'd be feeling the same as me and the 884 others. For a while maybe, but having realised that in the main results went our way and we had increased our lead over our nearest rival by a point at the end of the day i'd then be happy. Anyway what would you be saying had he gone for it at 3-1 up and we had lost and not even gained a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Terrible substitutions made AGAIN, inviting the opposition team back in the game. Today at 3-1 we should have put Fleetwood to bed. Instead we took off our pace/attacking outlets and tried to cling on, yet still playing the same tactics eg the balls into the channels for the likes of Agard, Bryan Freeman to chase who were at this point sat on the bench. At 3-1 the game was crying out for JET, a player who can hold the ball up, run the channels, produce goals from nothing. His very being on the pitch means defenders doubling up on him which of course creates gaps to exploit. We are still unbeaten and today we played a decent team. We lost 2 points today, not down to any single player, but by inept tactics and substitutions, that's the fault of the manager and a reoccurring one at that. The sad thing is I'd of taken a point today at 3pm. .........oh yes I do know we are still top and unbeaten in the league, doesn't mean that there's not lessons to be learned. Glad you think the same way fella... I brought this up in the match day thread. Great we are doing well...but I do feel it was a mistake by Cotts. It's constructive criticism...some people don't understand that...we all want what's best for the Club...not just to settle. We need to keep improving and learning. Inviting teams to attack invites problems. If we as a team continue to create problems it negates that. Cotts isn't perfect...Lets hope he thinks twice next time. Burns imho would have caused no end of problems down the channels after Agard got booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 You can be 1. Happy with Cotterill 2. Happy we are unbeaten at the top of the league 3. Frustrated at today's substitutions which invited pressure and indirectly caused them to score 4. Disappointed we threw away a 2 goal lead against a side we could and should have beaten. It's more likely people who didn't see the game will be less disappointed and be happy at the result and league placing like I would be but those who saw the game would have seen the impact and how we threw away the initiative. That's my view anyway. Good post. All my mates were dejected, but were still unbeaten and I'd have taken a point at 3pm. It's the manor in which we conceded that annoyed me, the players IMHO were no to blame the system was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well me and the lad are still in our way back and neither share your view / opinion. We should have been good enough to close it out but weren't and they scored class goals (Proctor's header was a cracker.) JET wouldn't have stabilised the centre - who'd you have brought him on for. Smith and Wilbrahimoich tired badly late on and most went off the boil last 25 minutes. They took all their chances, had we done likewise we'd have won 7-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Felt like a loss at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Glad you think the same way fella... I brought this up in the match day thread. Great we are doing well...but I do feel it was a mistake by Cotts. It's constructive criticism...some people don't understand that...we all want what's best for the Club...not just to settle. We need to keep improving and learning. Inviting teams to attack invites problems. If we as a team continue to create problems it negates that. Cotts isn't perfect...Lets hope he thinks twice next time. Burns imho would have caused no end of problems down the channels after Agard got booked. You make it sound like a statement of fact and it's not, the fact is we don't what would have happened, we could have lost and the forum would be in melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Cotta is still learning and finding out what's best for the team. He'll now know what to do in that situation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Glad you think the same way fella... I brought this up in the match day thread. Great we are doing well...but I do feel it was a mistake by Cotts. It's constructive criticism...some people don't understand that...we all want what's best for the Club...not just to settle. We need to keep improving and learning. Inviting teams to attack invites problems. If we as a team continue to create problems it negates that. Cotts isn't perfect...Lets hope he thinks twice next time. Burns imho would have caused no end of problems down the channels after Agard got booked. Hallelujah a man who understands the game. For this club to get bigger and push on we have to strive for perfection. Some of the players we've brought in are exceptional, if we go up we must strengthen still and it looks like the scouting network is really earning their coin. Wasn't impressed at all with Agard on Tuesday, his touch was diabolical. Today he missed two one on ones but he worked his socks off and popped up when and where it mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Cotta is still learning and finding out what's best for the team. He'll now know what to do in that situation again. If he does then we won't lose all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 You make it sound like a statement of fact and it's not, the fact is we don't what would have happened, we could have lost and the forum would be in melt down. Or we could have caused problems and won 3-1 or 3-2. It's all about learning from mistakes and not doing them again. As Wolfy said...it's not the first time. Do you think inviting players to attack is a better way to defend a lead, than doing what already got you that 2 goal cushion in the first place? Why change a tactic that was working? We had the fresh legs and quality on the bench. With 10 mins to go we should have been wasting time down in the corners... using the channels and holding the ball in their half. Not inviting them at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Cotta is still learning and finding out what's best for the team. He'll now know what to do in that situation again. No he won't, he will do what all managers even what the Jose Mourinho's of this world would do, make a decision based on what he believes is best and sometimes it works and everybody is happy and sometimes it dosen't and some people aren't happy and that even happens to Jose and sometimes players make a mistake which I understand occurred for their equaliser and that has nothing to do with tactics or substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 No, were unbeaten, top of the league and I'm happy. Today felt like a loss, simply because we were out thought and our substitutions invited pressure. Some people...... To be fair, I think SC stuck with what has worked previously. Very late subs and 'last minute' energy. But the 2 goals we conceded were very scrappy and avoidable. But it happens and we didn't lose, so hey ho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Saw a game the other week whereby the manager should have shawn up the defence with 1/4 of an hour to go at 2-0 up, went for the third, and ended up drawing 2-2. Did you all think the same at 3-1? It is a common tactic for managers to look to close games up at 3-1, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 It wasn't awful we scored 3 away and didn't win thats footy. The word awful is a response to dissapointment to being 3-1 up then not winning that does not mean wholesale panic being in the situation we are in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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