Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 The goals from yesterday are now up on the official channel: Continues our recent form of scoring scrappy goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Are Rovers? Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 The goals from yesterday are now up on the official channel: Continues our recent form of scoring scrappy goals. Agard will thrive on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Cross not blocked for their second and Pack all over the place for their third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 1st, got cross in too easily, no cover whatsoever on the edge of our box. 2nd, in the build up defender for some bizarre reason headed the back into the danger area and nobody picked up the goal scorer who was totally unmarked. 3rd, Pack should have made the initial header, missed a chance to clear the ball and as for their first goal no cover on the edge of our box. 3 pretty poor goals IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Their second goal was a very good header to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Their second goal was a very good header to be fair Yes it was a very good header no doubt about it, but there wasn't a marker within 2 yards of him and as I said in the build one of our defenders instead of heading the ball out bizarrely headed the ball back into the danger area. The other 2 goals were also great strikes but all 3 were preventable with more care, thought and even a bit of agricultural defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 1st, got cross in too easily, no cover whatsoever on the edge of our box. 2nd, in the build up defender for some bizarre reason headed the back into the danger area and nobody picked up the goal scorer who was totally unmarked. 3rd, Pack should have made the initial header, missed a chance to clear the ball and as for their first goal no cover on the edge of our box. 3 pretty poor goals IMO. But from their point of view, 1st & 3rd goals defenders didn't pick up the running City striker and 2nd defenders failed to clear a scrappy ball. For two of the best defences in the division that is a surprise. Or you could say both teams had players with the ability to find space for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 But from their point of view, 1st & 3rd goals defenders didn't pick up the running City striker and 2nd defenders failed to clear a scrappy ball. For two of the best defences in the division that is a surprise. Or you could say both teams had players with the ability to find space for themselves. To be honest i'm not really worried about their defensive failings, it's ours that i'm more interested in and certainly the 2nd and 3rd had an element of individual error about them, that smacked of players trying to be too clever rather than taking the safety first route. However please don't get me wrong, I am more than happy with the way things are going and I am sure that the 3 teams we have drawn with so far will beat a lot of very good teams home and away before this season is over and history will prove that they were 3 very good draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Bryan's cross for our first is absolutely sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Bryan's cross for our first is absolutely sublime. Yes it was and the strikers opportunism in gambling is becoming a refreshing trait over the past 3 or 4 games, shows great confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Pack tries to be clever and pass it out.. He should be just getting contact on the ball, but he'll learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Be fair, it's so easy after the event to pick holes in things.Nearly every goal ever scored was from some sort of mistake.If every defender did his job every game would end 0-0 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Pack tries to be clever and pass it out.. He should be just getting contact on the ball, but he'll learn. When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 When? SC alluded to it in a post match interview after a home game, something along the lines of 'he's usually very accurate, but can sometimes pick the wrong ball coming out of defence at inappropriate times', but he did say it with a chuckle as I remember, I think it may have been in response to a question about restricting the opposition to a few chances mainly from mistakes, it may have been Orient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Badger Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 We will get found out against better teams on fhat showing. Not good enough to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think a lot of people have been overly critical of Pack. He never lost possession... as we didn't have it in the first place. He and his opposite number both missed a header, Little won the scrap and the ball fell towards Pack who was beaten to the ball by a player with more momentum. All coming from a Goalkeepers punt up field. The goal came from a richochet and fell kindly. I'd be more concerned about the second Fleetwood goal...total free header. Finished superbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think a lot of people have been overly critical of Pack. He never lost possession... as we didn't have it in the first place. He and his opposite number both missed a header, Little won the scrap and the ball fell towards Pack who was beaten to the ball by a player with more momentum. All coming from a Goalkeepers punt up field. The goal came from a richochet and fell kindly. I'd be more concerned about the second Fleetwood goal...total free header. Finished superbly. I sort of agree, but in hindsight (like the substitutions) Pack should have been more robust in both instances, perhaps even risked giving a free kick away, it was far too easy for them to retain possession, it was certainly a bit soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 We will get found out against better teams on fhat showing. Not good enough to be fair. Why exactly is it not good enough, beyond your lofted view of City's right to win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I sort of agree, but in hindsight (like the substitutions) Pack should have been more robust in both instances, perhaps even risked giving a free kick away, it was far too easy for them to retain possession, it was certainly a bit soft. Maybe...but Pack had only been on the pitch 1 minute...still cold off the bench...I don't blame him. As for hindsight on the substitutions... I've said throughout my posts on it, that I don't agree with sitting back on leads and letting teams come at you. Regardless of the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Maybe...but Pack had only been on the pitch 1 minute...still cold off the bench...I don't blame him. As for hindsight on the substitutions... I've said throughout my posts on it, that I don't agree with sitting back on leads and letting teams come at you. Regardless of the result. But as we saw at Leicester today even manu get that particular conundrum wrong and with even more spectacular results than ours and for the second time in 24 hours for me, a prime example of what happens when obsessive possession type football goes spectacularly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Maybe...but Pack had only been on the pitch 1 minute...still cold off the bench...I don't blame him. As for hindsight on the substitutions... I've said throughout my posts on it, that I don't agree with sitting back on leads and letting teams come at you. Regardless of the result. The thing is even at 3-2 we were the more threatening; the only real chance between their second and third was Smith's for us. It's not as though we were 'hanging on' as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 But as we saw at Leicester today even manu get that particular conundrum wrong and with even more spectacular results than ours and for the second time in 24 hours for me, a prime example of what happens when obsessive possession type football goes spectacularly wrong. True...but as with any system...obsession with any system, is wrong, if the wrong decisions are made at the time. Possession is proven to give the best results...but not at the expense of putting your team under duress...that's when you make the right decision to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think a lot of people have been overly critical of Pack. He never lost possession... as we didn't have it in the first place. He and his opposite number both missed a header, Little won the scrap and the ball fell towards Pack who was beaten to the ball by a player with more momentum. All coming from a Goalkeepers punt up field. The goal came from a richochet and fell kindly. I'd be more concerned about the second Fleetwood goal...total free header. Finished superbly. Maybe...but Pack had only been on the pitch 1 minute...still cold off the bench...I don't blame him. As for hindsight on the substitutions... I've said throughout my posts on it, that I don't agree with sitting back on leads and letting teams come at you. Regardless of the result. If El Abd had come off the bench and did what Pack did, would everyone on here be so forgiving? That said, having seen their 3rd goal on the FLS last night, it didn't look so bad on TV as I thought it had inside the ground - and it was still a cracking finish from Dobbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 If El Abd had come off the bench and did what Pack did, would everyone on here be so forgiving? That said, having seen their 3rd goal on the FLS last night, it didn't look so bad on TV as I thought it had inside the ground - and it was still a cracking finish from Dobbie. If they had any sense they would... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 True...but as with any system...obsession with any system, is wrong, if the wrong decisions are made at the time. Possession is proven to give the best results...but not at the expense of putting your team under duress...that's when you make the right decision to change. Yesterday Liverpool lost, today Manu and Spurs lost having had the lions share possession, ignoring the Swansea game (because Swansea played a lot of the game with 10 men) and other games were draws, so far this weekend only Arsenal bear that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 For their 2nd goal, it was a good header but it was the guy's 1st touch having been on for barely a minute. I wonder if there was some confusion over who was supposed to be picking him up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 we are unbeaten can't expect to go to 23 grounds and win every game yesterday was a gutter but unbeaten Peterborough lost and we extended a point on top. We move on to more pressing matters with 3 points against mk dongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Yesterday Liverpool lost, today Manu and Spurs lost having had the lions share possession, ignoring the Swansea game (because Swansea played a lot of the game with 10 men) and other games were draws, so far this weekend only Arsenal bear that out. Stats are quiet interesting. It shows that the better the quality of the opposition, the team with the greatest possession generally wins. As you move down the leagues it gets less and less. Stats show that games won further down the leagues, generally come from goals created from mistakes made by the opposition. Football favours whoever provokes more errors in the opposition. The game is won by the team who commits fewer errors. Pretty much because the players at lower levels are not as good and prone to mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 we are unbeaten can't expect to go to 23 grounds and win every game yesterday was a gutter but unbeaten Peterborough lost and we extended a point on top. We move on to more pressing matters with 3 points against mk dongs That was Peterborough's 3rd defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Stats are quiet interesting. It shows that the better the quality of the opposition, the team with the greatest possession generally wins. As you move down the leagues it gets less and less. Stats show that games won further down the leagues, generally come from goals created from mistakes made by the opposition. Football favours whoever provokes more errors in the opposition. The game is won by the team who commits fewer errors. Pretty much because the players at lower levels are not as good and prone to mistakes. Yesterday Liverpool lost, today Manu and Spurs lost having had the lions share possession, ignoring the Swansea game (because Swansea played a lot of the game with 10 men) and other games were draws. Now add Palarse to the list both had quite a lot less possession but still won, so this weekend only Arsenal actually prove that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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