bs3 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I have read a few comments on here about congestion around Ashton Gate once the redevelopment is completed and bigger crowds are expected. A new metro bus is about to be built which will run on a dedicated track from Hengrove through Hartcliffe,Withywood ,Bishopsworth on to Ashton Gate and then on the old rail line into the City centre . Part of this scheme is also the construction of a link road from the A38 to the long Ashton by pass . The Portishead rail line should be open to passengers in 2019 unfortunately there seem to be no plans to open a station at Ashton Gate . Part of metro plan will see more trains stopping at Parson Street from the opening of the Henbury loop and more trains stopping from Yate and WSM So in a few years we will have a new road, new direct bus route , new rail line and new rail services from all over Bristol so this should make getting to Ashton Gate a lot lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 There are plans to re-open Ashton Gate station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Have these plans not been in place for like 20 years now??? Similar to the stadium in town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 No plans to open Ashton Gate station according to the latest plans on the Bristol metro website. It states that new station will be built at Portishead and Pill and improvements to Parson Street station but made no mention of a new station at Ashton gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Have these plans not been in place for like 20 years now??? You right but now planning have been granted and money have been allocated ,however this is Bristol!! Similar to the stadium in town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Done a little digging regarding Ashton Gate station. There is a plan for a new station but is subject to a separate business case so it looks like the line will open before a new station is built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Done a little digging regarding Ashton Gate station. There is a plan for a new station but is subject to a separate business case so it looks like the line will open before a new station is built. Sure to be a target for the NIMBYs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 No plans to open Ashton Gate station according to the latest plans on the Bristol metro website. It states that new station will be built at Portishead and Pill and improvements to Parson Street station but made no mention of a new station at Ashton gate. Although the club/Bristol sport are strongly supporting this. I believe at the time of the initial plans being drawn up for the portishead line we were going to be moving to Ashton vale. However, since then we have announced we are staying, plus the rugby club are joining us which helps the business case for opening the station (and wider line) quite considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 The proposal to reopen Ashton Gate station is a drive initiated by the club and they are in conversations with the relevant parties to try and make it happen. Nothing concrete yet that I've heard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I have read a few comments on here about congestion around Ashton Gate once the redevelopment is completed and bigger crowds are expected. A new metro bus is about to be built which will run on a dedicated track from Hengrove through Hartcliffe,Withywood ,Bishopsworth on to Ashton Gate and then on the old rail line into the City centre . Part of this scheme is also the construction of a link road from the A38 to the long Ashton by pass . The Portishead rail line should be open to passengers in 2019 unfortunately there seem to be no plans to open a station at Ashton Gate . Part of metro plan will see more trains stopping at Parson Street from the opening of the Henbury loop and more trains stopping from Yate and WSM So in a few years we will have a new road, new direct bus route , new rail line and new rail services from all over Bristol so this should make getting to Ashton Gate a lot lot easier. I suppose the key issue is what will happen before the new transport schemes are implemented. The ground redevelopment will finish 2016, the train line is going to be opening 2019 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I suppose the key issue is what will happen before the new transport schemes are implemented. The ground redevelopment will finish 2016, the train line is going to be opening 2019 at the earliest.nothing get use to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Sure to be a target for the NIMBYs ? I'm sure for 'station' read platform, what right minded NIMBY wouldn't want a handy local rail link ? Sure to upwardly impact house values (at least it wouldn't be detrimental) the rail line will be there already more annoying if the trains are so near yet so far if they can't stop. More likely to be welcomed by locals surely?.... Car hating greens should be happy, the addition of a smallish platform enabling more use of public transport rather than the hastle, inconveniance (sometimes) of car use etc everyone should be winners (inc the stadium users who locals already have to 'put up with' anyway) Living near Lawrence Hill station is a Godsend.. easy cheap quick access to BTMeads ..and local travel to from Clifton, Avonmouth, Montpellier, Stapleton Road etc. etc ..... Likewise a platform a Ashton Gate on a line linking to BT Meads and beyond in one direction plus the opening up of the much needed Bristol Portishead link would prove to be equally (possibly even more so than L Hill) beneficial to all concerned ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 It's a no brainer. The business case for opening AG station goes further than the fact its on top a 27000 seat stadium conference facility its also much local for residents of Ashton relative to Parson St. The station would service Ashton Court also so they would clean up during balloons and festivals etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogursey red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 the proposal on the table at the moment with only 2 new station is the cheapest option, putting a station in at Ashton Gate is quite hard and expensive the problem is pathing trains down the line with a stop at the gate if it's still single track from Ashton Ju to the new loop at Pill (6 miles & 12 chains), so as i understand it the double track will need to be extended from Ashton Ju to a point past Ashton station only 1/2 a mile of new track but including a level crossing so not cheep with Ashton Gate being a 2 track station again adding cost, the site of the station can't be moved because freight trains need to be able to run non stop from the signal at Ashton station to Parson St or they will not be able to get up the hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 the proposal on the table at the moment with only 2 new station is the cheapest option, putting a station in at Ashton Gate is quite hard and expensive the problem is pathing trains down the line with a stop at the gate if it's still single track from Ashton Ju to the new loop at Pill (6 miles & 12 chains), so as i understand it the double track will need to be extended from Ashton Ju to a point past Ashton station only 1/2 a mile of new track but including a level crossing so not cheep with Ashton Gate being a 2 track station again adding cost, the site of the station can't be moved because freight trains need to be able to run non stop from the signal at Ashton station to Parson St or they will not be able to get up the hill There is no chance of a level crossing, NR just won't allow any more. Look at the clusterfuck that's happening with Portishead's station. Ashton Gate Platform is still there.. what they'd have to do is reintroduce the two lines that ran from the old signal box to the end of the station. I think by the time they get around to the laying of the new track they'll have found a way.. it's a no brainier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Have these plans not been in place for like 20 years now??? Similar to the stadium in town... The difference being its on the strategic rail plan and the funding is pretty much all in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogursey red Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 There is no chance of a level crossing, NR just won't allow any more. Look at the cluster**** that's happening with Portishead's station. Ashton Gate Platform is still there.. what they'd have to do is reintroduce the two lines that ran from the old signal box to the end of the station. I think by the time they get around to the laying of the new track they'll have found a way.. it's a no brainier. it should be ok because it's not a new crossing there have been a number of crossing on single lines that have been doubled in the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 They'll hold off making a decision or even talking about it if they think SL/Bristol Sport might be in a position to contribute towards the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Am I right in saying that the portishead line will reopen no matter what. I thought that a station will be built at portishead and pill. It's up to us to make the council push along the ashton gate station. Which is supposed to be next to the ford dealership, but that would cost a lot due to the need of building a new track to run alongside the one already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 it should be ok because it's not a new crossing there have been a number of crossing on single lines that have been doubled in the last few years Ah get what you mean now. I think that originally was all twin lines till after AG station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roylegalatyeo Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I,expect the red trousered cretin would want SL to fund it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 So was going to fund it if we was building at av What a lost because of town green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 So was going to fund it if we was building at av What a lost because of town green Don't think it came up with regards to AV but allowing of the metro bus to run in the edge was discussed. Think the club were having to pay for a footbridge over the railway as part of the 106 agreement. It maybe whoever wins the franchise to run the line will pay for it as financially it would make sense for whoever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Remembering the Sainsburys objections: Can't wait for the 'Beep, Beep, Beep' person to rear their head again ...and pipe up with an anti train: "Choo, Choo, Choo,' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manon Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 A new metro bus is about to be built which will run on a dedicated track from Hengrove through Hartcliffe,Withywood ,Bishopsworth on to Ashton Gate and then on the old rail line into the City centre. unfortunately this BRT is just a glorified bus route, and a, complete and utter waste of money. It is flawed and shouldn't be built, but will be anyway purely because the money has been granted fron government and the council will lose the award if they change the scheme significantly now. When you see what the likes of manchester and nottingham have with their tram systems, it's enough to make you hang your head in despair. Bristol had an tram network years ago. We hav gone backwards. One of the main problems is the fact bristol is split between so many governing bodies, they will never agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkjn Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 unfortunately this BRT is just a glorified bus route, and a, complete and utter waste of money. It is flawed and shouldn't be built, but will be anyway purely because the money has been granted fron government and the council will lose the award if they change the scheme significantly now. When you see what the likes of manchester and nottingham have with their tram systems, it's enough to make you hang your head in despair. Bristol had an tram network years ago. We hav gone backwards. One of the main problems is the fact bristol is split between so many governing bodies, they will never agree. Spot on mate, it's embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'm 68. What odds will the bookies give me on living long enough to get a train to the Gate again? PS I don't eat Lindley's pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 unfortunately this BRT is just a glorified bus route, and a, complete and utter waste of money. It is flawed and shouldn't be built, but will be anyway purely because the money has been granted fron government and the council will lose the award if they change the scheme significantly now. When you see what the likes of manchester and nottingham have with their tram systems, it's enough to make you hang your head in despair. Bristol had an tram network years ago. We hav gone backwards. One of the main problems is the fact bristol is split between so many governing bodies, they will never agree. Spot on with you last points regarding too many councils. The leader of Banes was on the bbc west politic show ,he claimed the 4 authorities was working well together what a joke that is. The problem is these tin point council run their authority like their only little fiefdom. Times are changing and if their is not a greater Bristol or City wide region Bristol will get even more left behind if that possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Spot on with you last points regarding too many councils. The leader of Banes was on the bbc west politic show ,he claimed the 4 authorities was working well together what a joke that is. The problem is these tin point council run their authority like their only little fiefdom. Times are changing and if their is not a greater Bristol or City wide region Bristol will get even more left behind if that possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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