The Bard Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Apart from laughing at their ineptitude yesterday, I did think to myself how would any team at a lower level deal with the huge imbalance in their side. If it were my Sunday vets team, the answer would be simple - one of the attacking players would have to play centre half. Having a player of Mata's quality as sub is a nonsense when Tyler Blackett is playing centre half. They need someone with a bit of bite, bit of leadership, with strength. Decent football brain. They may not be experienced at the position but have enough about them to muddle through and learn quickly. So, my advise to Mr Van Gaal is play Rooney centre half - it wouldn't be worse than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Apart from laughing at their ineptitude yesterday, I did think to myself how would any team at a lower level deal with the huge imbalance in their side. If it were my Sunday vets team, the answer would be simple - one of the attacking players would have to play centre half. Having a player of Mata's quality as sub is a nonsense when Tyler Blackett is playing centre half. They need someone with a bit of bite, bit of leadership, with strength. Decent football brain. They may not be experienced at the position but have enough about them to muddle through and learn quickly. So, my advise to Mr Van Gaal is play Rooney centre half - it wouldn't be worse than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Apart from laughing at their ineptitude yesterday, I did think to myself how would any team at a lower level deal with the huge imbalance in their side. If it were my Sunday vets team, the answer would be simple - one of the attacking players would have to play centre half. Having a player of Mata's quality as sub is a nonsense when Tyler Blackett is playing centre half. They need someone with a bit of bite, bit of leadership, with strength. Decent football brain. They may not be experienced at the position but have enough about them to muddle through and learn quickly. So, my advise to Mr Van Gaal is play Rooney centre half - it wouldn't be worse than it is now. Mickey Rooney? He couldn't be any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 You can laugh (and my post is not entirely serious) but they would be better with him at centre half rather than young Tyler. Poor lad looks like he's won a competition to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 You can laugh (and my post is not entirely serious) but they would be better with him at centre half rather than young Tyler. Poor lad looks like he's won a competition to play. He is awful, isn't he? I'd just stick Rojo at centre half and Shaw at left back, seems a touch less controversial than playing Wayne-la in defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 They looked like they had just met that day, no sign of teamwork whatsoever. Shocking when you consider their Manager is rightly regarded as one of the best in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 we had an inbalanced defense for 5 years, it cost us a place in the championship and almost cost us a place in league one too, If man u don't sort their balance out soon they will be in real trouble no club is too big to go down, (not that I think they will) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 They looked like they had just met that day, no sign of teamwork whatsoever. Shocking when you consider their Manager is rightly regarded as one of the best in the world. To be fair quite a few of them had only met a couple of weeks ago, but still it was a shocking display. Their problem is that not only are the CBs they've got are not up to scratch, but they can't stay fit either. Wouldn't surprise me to see Blind go in there, or Carrick when fit, then they'll sign at least 1 in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Has Carey got a contract anywhere yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 They keep saying up here that they are going to play like Kevin Keegans Newcastle "you score 3 we will score 4" but the reality at the moment is they are playing like Ossie Ardiles Spurs team "we score 5 you score 7". Out of interest does anyone know how many points Moyes had by this point as his opening fixtures were far from favourable in comparison with this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 They keep saying up here that they are going to play like Kevin Keegans Newcastle "you score 3 we will score 4" but the reality at the moment is they are playing like Ossie Ardiles Spurs team "we score 5 you score 7". Out of interest does anyone know how many points Moyes had by this point as his opening fixtures were far from favourable in comparison with this season. 7 points they beat swansea 3-1, lost 1-0 to liverpool drew 0-0 with Chelsea beat palace 2-0 and lost 4-1 to Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cider-manc Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Even if they'd beaten Leicester, it wouldn't have been particularly edifying reading. However, I watched the game and it wasn't a 'hammering' as such, it was a somewhat bizarre match that ManUre contrived to throw away. The penalty Leicester got to get back in the game was awful and came not long after De Laet (who was influential in the closing stages) should have got a second yellow for a cynical foul on Di Maria (I think). It was most definitely karma in some respects, but Clattenburg was to Leicester as Howard Webb used to be to ManUre themselves! Ability is there, confidence is shattered by the slightest setback and as others have said, it's reminiscent of us under Millen/Del/SOD. Blackett is their very own Fontaine and Nicky Hunt rolled into one, though obviously a much more callow youth Hammered was an exaggeration... I just can't help myself. Having watched Manchester United win everything growing up and putting up with their plastic fans- I'm enjoying their demise (even if it turns out to be temporary) far too much. I imagine a lot of people who grew up in the 80's feel the same towards Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zyderiup Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 On another note, is your picture of Bill Murray in a military uniform? Can't work it out, it looks Russian and can't recall Bill playing such a character. Explained here mate http://flavorwire.com/213749/your-favorite-stars-as-russian-military-generals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Explained here mate http://flavorwire.com/213749/your-favorite-stars-as-russian-military-generals Well, seems i was right about the Russian part. But what a random web page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 He is awful, isn't he? I'd just stick Rojo at centre half and Shaw at left back, seems a touch less controversial than playing Wayne-la in defence Rojo has looked poor so far. Weak in defence and hasn't offered much on the ball. Van Gaal obviously isn't keen on him at centre half in 4 at the back or he'd have done it already. Blackett hasn't looked great but he hasn't stood out as a weak link from what I've seen... which is more a reflection on their defence in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Hammered was an exaggeration... I just can't help myself. Having watched Manchester United win everything growing up and putting up with their plastic fans- I'm enjoying their demise (even if it turns out to be temporary) far too much. I imagine a lot of people who grew up in the 80's feel the same towards Liverpool. Exactly. I personally have the exact same view of Liverpool; plastic fans from all over the country supporting them because they were good. Plus all the carry on sticking up for Suarez. Citeh fans are like Gasheads; more concerned with the team in red up the road losing than whether they're winning. Chelsea fans are just former Fulham fans who flocked to the Russian oil dollar Of all the people I know who support a 'big' PL team, pretty much the only ones who are supporting their local team are the Utd fans. Which obviously makes it far more fun to take the piss out of them when they lose, they won't be sneaking off to support Arsenal if the slump continues!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don wonder what another season of not being in the champions league might do to them. Leeds mk2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Exactly. I personally have the exact same view of Liverpool; plastic fans from all over the country supporting them because they were good. Plus all the carry on sticking up for Suarez. Citeh fans are like Gasheads; more concerned with the team in red up the road losing than whether they're winning. Chelsea fans are just former Fulham fans who flocked to the Russian oil dollar Of all the people I know who support a 'big' PL team, pretty much the only ones who are supporting their local team are the Utd fans. Which obviously makes it far more fun to take the piss out of them when they lose, they won't be sneaking off to support Arsenal if the slump continues!!! can't agree with that to be honest yes they hate man ure with a passion but they are are nothing like the deluded ones, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Rojo has looked poor so far. Weak in defence and hasn't offered much on the ball. Van Gaal obviously isn't keen on him at centre half in 4 at the back or he'd have done it already. Blackett hasn't looked great but he hasn't stood out as a weak link from what I've seen... which is more a reflection on their defence in general Blackett has looked exactly what he is; a inexperienced young lad who may or may not be good enough but is not yet ready for te kind of pressure playing in that defence brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don wonder what another season of not being in the champions league might do to them. Leeds mk2? We can all hope. Unfortunately, they will be challenging again in a season or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yardy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I feel a bit sorry for Blackett he has been chucked in at the deep end with not much chance of succeeding. Put Blackett in with a prime Rio, Vidic or Stam type player and he will improve, play him with Evans or Smalling is just asking for trouble. I don't think this is doing the lads progression any good at all, its a shame because he could easily be better than Smalling and Evans combined. Anyway its still great to see them suffering as a team which keeps most of their plastic fans shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Phil Jones is actually underrated, good solid defender, who can lead a defence and if paired with Rojo wouldnt do to badley. I know he's injured but a defence of Rafeal - Jones - Rojo - Shaw isn't to bad, not champions league standard, but should push them up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 we had an inbalanced defense for 5 years, it cost us a place in the championship and almost cost us a place in league one too, If man u don't sort their balance out soon they will be in real trouble no club is too big to go down, (not that I think they will) No chance of that. United will finish in the top three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Blind is a good player. He can play CB & LB as well as his holding midfield role. Expect Man Utd to spend some serious more cash next summer - my money is on the Dortmund pair of Hummels and Subotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 No chance of that. United will finish in the top three There is more chance of us winning the fa cup then united getting too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 No chance of that. United will finish in the top three Yes. With Liverpool and Newcastle just above them. Loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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