Fordy62 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I really don't like Brendan Rogers... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29438699 "I don't think he's fit to play for England. We're hoping he can develop over the next 48 hours to be in a position to train with the team on Thursday and maybe be available for the squad on Saturday." Cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I really don't like Brendan Rogers...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29438699"I don't think he's fit to play for England. We're hoping he can develop over the next 48 hours to be in a position to train with the team on Thursday and maybe be available for the squad on Saturday."Cock. Fit enough for the squad means give him twenty minutes as part of his rehabilitation. A trip to Estonia playing for a poor England side and being the only real goal threat in the squad... That will do him the world of good. I think he's got a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Going to stick my neck out and say that it seems reasonable to me. He says Sturridge might travel with the Liverpool squad on Saturday if he can train Thursday. Doesn't say anything about him getting on the pitch. Even if he gets on towards the end it hardly puts him in a position to start an international 5 days later having played a few minutes at best all month. At any rate England should be picking on form, not reputation. Unless he plays and scores a hat trick Saturday that isn't Sturridge at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Fit enough for the squad means give him twenty minutes as part of his rehabilitation. A trip to Estonia playing for a poor England side and being the only real goal threat in the squad... That will do him the world of good. I think he's got a point. You're too sensible. Now please edit your post and resubmit it based around Liverpool bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 he's not played for a shile due to injury, I'd withdraw him from the squad too, he mayh not even make the one man team anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I don't have a problem with this. Clearly won't be a 100% fit, and it is only Estonia and San Marino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Other side of the coin Costa at Chelsea , struggling with a hamstring injury so not training between games. Seems Chelsea are powerless to stop him going to play for the national side instead of resting it. I guess that's why some clubs play these games. That said if the player was fit and wanted to play , what would stop him? If Sturridge is not playing why would he be considered , surely there is someone playing and in decent form somewhere? Berahino ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Other side of the coin Costa at Chelsea , struggling with a hamstring injury so not training between games. Seems Chelsea are powerless to stop him going to play for the national side instead of resting it. I guess that's why some clubs play these games. That said if the player was fit and wanted to play , what would stop him? If Sturridge is not playing why would he be considered , surely there is someone playing and in decent form somewhere? Berahino ?? if costa is fit enough to play for his club then he is fit enough to play for his country, no sympathy for chelsea, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Other side of the coin Costa at Chelsea , struggling with a hamstring injury so not training between games. Seems Chelsea are powerless to stop him going to play for the national side instead of resting it. I guess that's why some clubs play these games. That said if the player was fit and wanted to play , what would stop him? If Sturridge is not playing why would he be considered , surely there is someone playing and in decent form somewhere? Berahino ?? I was thinking of this lad. Great games to give him a go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I was thinking of this lad. Great games to give him a go in. i agree, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 England will not play Berahino. We'll have the dancing marionette who only scores with shin kicks. Welbeck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 England will not play Berahino. We'll have the dancing marionette who only scores with shin kicks. Welbeck! I seem to remember Welbeck scoring twice recently against Switzerland, and winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 England will not play Berahino. We'll have the dancing marionette who only scores with shin kicks. Welbeck! that will be danny welbeck the striker who's scored 10 in 28 for england, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 if costa is fit enough to play for his club then he is fit enough to play for his country, no sympathy for chelsea, The point was he's not fit enough to play, certainly not fully fit, but is still going off to spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 England will not play Berahino. We'll have the dancing marionette who only scores with shin kicks. Welbeck! Didn't he recently win us a game against a top-10 ranked nation away from home? As for Sturridge, I can see where Brendan Rodgers is coming from, but he's forgetting that it's not him that'll make the decision on whether Sturridge is fit enough, it's England's medical team. I would hope we can beat Estonia and San Marino without him, so it would be sensible to rest him, but that's not Rodgers decision to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red mist Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Shows the state of English football, when we seem to be concerned about the fitness of a second rate striker who needs at least 3 chances to score 1 goal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What do you expect him to say? BR's loyalty and priority is to Liverpool not England and to be fair to him, given Liverpools current form he needs his best players back ASAP. If I was in his shoes i wouldn't want to risk any players to potential injuries on international duty either. Cant stand the England love in these days. Its just a squad of players that represent all that is wrong with PL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I wonder what Sturridge thinks about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What do you expect him to say? BR's loyalty and priority is to Liverpool not England and to be fair to him, given Liverpools current form he needs his best players back ASAP. If I was in his shoes i wouldn't want to risk any players to potential injuries on international duty either.Cant stand the England love in these days. Its just a squad of players that represent all that is wrong with PL football. Can I ask why you think this? With the exception of Rooney the squad at present possesses none of the golden generation, none of the players are top earners at their clubs (again with the exception of Rooney), it is the youngest on average we have had in ages and for the first time in a long time I don't think you can question their hunger although the quality may lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 England will not play Berahino. We'll have the dancing marionette who only scores with shin kicks. Welbeck! Looks like the marionette is making good use of his shins this evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Can I ask why you think this? With the exception of Rooney the squad at present possesses none of the golden generation, none of the players are top earners at their clubs (again with the exception of Rooney), it is the youngest on average we have had in ages and for the first time in a long time I don't think you can question their hunger although the quality may lack. Sure, firstly though i just want to point out that on re-reading my comment about England it may have come across as a dig at the OP - not intentional at all. Over the past few years, for me England have come to represent a group of over hyped, over payed individuals that lack the spirit of what it meant to represent your country. I get your point about the younger players coming through replacing the older lot but for me the damage has been done - even when you look at how much transfer fees some of these 'youngsters' have been traded for and the reported wages of some of them, verses the return in quality and skill they poses - it's disgusting. Slightly off topic i know and maybe a debate for another day but it does link back to the OPs point i guess. Like i said, unfortunately for me they represent all thats wrong with the PL as a whole and is one of the main reasons im glad i support a local team, watch lower league footy and dont support any PL teams. What a dilema i'd have if City ever made it to the PL ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 **** him, welbecks better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Sturridge has 74 goals in his 192 career games (0.38 goals per game) and Welbeck 41 in 183 (0.22 goals per game). Even Welbeck's 10 in 28 (35.7 gpg) for the national team isn't miles away from Strurridge's total of 5 in 16 (31.25 gpg). Sturridge has also scored 36 in 52 (0.69 gpg) at Liverpool, which is actually a better rate than Suarez's 82 in 133 at 0.62 gpg. At club level they're not close at this stage but I don't see why Welbeck can't be successful at Arsenal, especially since he's their only centre forward with Giroud out long term. Clearly it's far too early to say, but he already has 4 in 5 for them. That said, England would be mad not to want Sturridge in the team given what he's done since he's been at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Sturridge has 74 goals in his 192 career games (0.38 goals per game) and Welbeck 41 in 183 (0.22 goals per game). Even Welbeck's 10 in 28 (35.7 gpg) for the national team isn't miles away from Strurridge's total of 5 in 16 (31.25 gpg). Sturridge has also scored 36 in 52 (0.69 gpg) at Liverpool, which is actually a better rate than Suarez's 82 in 133 at 0.62 gpg. At club level they're not close at this stage but I don't see why Welbeck can't be successful at Arsenal, especially since he's their only centre forward with Giroud out long term. Clearly it's far too early to say, but he already has 4 in 5 for them. That said, England would be mad not to want Sturridge in the team given what he's done since he's been at Liverpool. Not forgetting of course that Welbeck has been consistently played out of position, usually on the left wing. I've always been a fan and consider him to be a far better all round player than Sturridge. In fact I think he's the only player in the current England set up that would have had any chance of making Ramsey's World Cup winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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