ooRya Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Personally I really hate it.I can see the possible need for "emergency loans", but I hate the fact that this is so over abused these days.I'd love it if loans were completely scrapped and teams could only field players that were actually contracted. But with the "bigger/wealthier" clubs filling their books with players that will never get a game with them, and with the smaller clubs (us included) seemingly so willing to go along with it, I can never see it changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm not a big fan of 'Transfer windows' either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Anglian windows aren't much good either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Personally I really hate it. I can see the possible need for "emergency loans", but I hate the fact that this is so over abused these days. I'd love it if loans were completely scrapped and teams could only field players that were actually contracted. But with the "bigger/wealthier" clubs filling their books with players that will never get a game with them, and with the smaller clubs (us included) seemingly so willing to go along with it, I can never see it changing. It is a system that is abused by some clubs who get in the maximum number of loans rather than agreeing longer term contracts. There are clubs not too far distant from us in League One like this. But it can also work for City because compared with clubs in League Two and below, we are the big club. For the first time, City with SC and KB in charge, we appear to be using the loan system to get valuable game time in competitive football this season for Reid, Burns, Wynter, Mafuta and Monelle. They will learn more at the loan clubs against hardened pros than under 21/18 games against other boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 French windows are overated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 But it can also work for City because compared with clubs in League Two and below, we are the big club. For the first time, City with SC and KB in charge, we appear to be using the loan system to get valuable game time in competitive football this season for Reid, Burns, Wynter, Mafuta and Monelle. They will learn more at the loan clubs against hardened pros than under 21/18 games against other boys.Accept what you are saying, and yes while the system allows it, of course City should try and benefit from it.But personally, I would rather there was a decent reserve league for our players to get game time in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Look at the likes of Swindle, last year and this year most of their team are premier league reserve players. I think loans help the smaller clubs but it's a problem when the loan loophole is abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I prefer Bifolds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yeovil would be back playing the Gas if it wasnt for the loan system To many clubs take the P### with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Anglian windows aren't much good either French windows are overated ... But Velux windows are the worst. When it rains.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Tony Windows used to play cricket for Gloucestershire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 thank god for venetian blinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 We'd more than likely be playing in league two now if it weren't for the loan system......just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 French windows are overated My hotel in Austria had a French widow in every room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brislingwood Red Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 My hotel in Austria had a French widow in every room... I bet that was depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Tony Windows used to play cricket for Gloucestershire Matt Windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Matt Windows Tony Windows, his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I bet that was depressing. Some of those French widows are right goers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Steven Caulker is a clear example of why the loan system doesn't do you any good in the long term. Yes, he was great here, but our failure to replace him was, in my opinion, part of our downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I've always been wary of loan players for a number of reasons - 1) why aren't they playing for thier contracted club? 2) are they any better than what we already have? 3) They often put in decent performances in an effort to win a deal but when they get one they go off the boil. 4) There's a real danger that if the loan player walks into the team that it can piss off regular first teasers, particularly the player whose position they've taken. Disruption is not what City need right now. 5) I find it really hard to remember them once they've finished the loan period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I didn't like it under McInnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I've always been wary of loan players for a number of reasons -1) why aren't they playing for thier contracted club? 2) are they any better than what we already have? 3) They often put in decent performances in an effort to win a deal but when they get one they go off the boil. 4) There's a real danger that if the loan player walks into the team that it can piss off regular first teasers, particularly the player whose position they've taken. Disruption is not what City need right now. 5) I find it really hard to remember them once they've finished the loan period. Well most loans are from a higher league to a lower one. For example Bobby Reid has hardly set the world alight here yet the Plymouth fans I know rave about him. So the answers are: 1) Because they're not good enough (or not yet good enough) for the level of the club they're contracted to 2) Very possibly if they're at a club in a higher division In that example it's wins all round. Bobby is happy because he's playing football, we're happy because one of our young prospects is getting vital development and expeience and Plymouth are happy because he's better than what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 GJ liked a striker on loan din ee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 In that example it's wins all round. Bobby is happy because he's playing football, we're happy because one of our young prospects is getting vital development and expeience and Plymouth are happy because he's better than what they have. I can see the benefit of younger players gaining game time and experience by going out on loan. Reid is a classic example of that. That said I do have a worry about incoming loans on such a short length of time. City had Caulker for a season long loan which was fine but a month loan hardly seems worth the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 thank god for venetian blindsHow do you make a Venetian blind? Poke him in the eye with a stick. (Sorry I couldn't resist it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich-TWSC- Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Of course when Swindon use the loan system it's 'abuse', *rolls eyes*. I'd like to see short term loans stopped and have the Football League insist on half/full season loans only. Possibly with a restriction of how many at one time. Swindon are currently focusing on young loan players on longer spells and it's working really well, I'm never too overjoyed when players aged 25+ arrive (why are you going out on loan? Attitude? Poor form? Injury? etc) English football is currently structured to destroy the lower leagues. I know folk have been saying that for years but you only have to look at formally established clubs floating around Non-League to know it's happening slowly but surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The system is not perfect, but it's probably the best option with the way clubs now operate. In the past clubs ran reserve teams who played regular matches. This meant players not in the first team had regular semi competitive games. Now, with small squads, a senior player not in the first team will hardly play. The old system also didn't help the development of younger players who could spend years in the reserves, never break through, and then be released. Now they can go to another club and play competitive matches. This indicates at an early stage just how good, or not, they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Depends on what the APR is, some loans just take the piss with their high rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 27, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Loans always used to be about sending those players who needed match time to get fit, down to lower league clubs Nowadays it's a way to improve a side I guess the transfer window may have something to do with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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