Major Isewater Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 There has been talk of a need to change formation ,if (when) we go up ,which set up do you think we'll adopt ? If we change will the football be less attacking ? Who will miss out from the current team ? Who will we need ? Is my dinner ready ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 You set your formation up depending on the team you play against...not what league you are in. When watching our 352 this season, have you not noticed the different way we play in that loose formation, depending what personnel are playing. For example...Cunningham might replace Bryan...but they play completely different roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 3-2-1-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Why change a winning formula? 3-5-2 all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyderiup Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Why change a winning formula? 3-5-2 all the way. I agree. It looked OK against West 'Aaaaam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The formation we play should be whatever formation gets the best out of the players who happen to be on the field of play at that time. For example, I think reverting to a 4-4-2,4-5-1,4-4-1-1 etc would be nigh on suicide for us right now. However, what if for some reason we no longer had Flint. It might then be easier rather than replacing Flint in our back three, reverting to a new formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I believe Watford play a similar formation and style to us. It may just be a case of brining in further quality and depth to continue pushing on. Keith But, Keith Dawe and Cotts have plenty in mind already. Plenty of players within our scouting pool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Everything about this team looks well prepared for life in the Championship and that includes the formation. Stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Why should we change our formation? Let others worry about us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 SC has bought in players to fit the formation and playing style he has chosen and that has bought us success this season. Why is it not possible that the same formation and players ( with some strengthening here and there) will not go on to be successful at the next level? For too long , we had managers who set up their teams to counter the strengths of the opposition, or to compensate for our own weaknesses, whereas SC has set his teams up to play to our strengths, and to let the opposition worry about us. Long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 SC has bought in players to fit the formation and playing style he has chosen and that has bought us success this season. Why is it not possible that the same formation and players ( with some strengthening here and there) will not go on to be successful at the next level? For too long , we had managers who set up their teams to counter the strengths of the opposition, or to compensate for our own weaknesses, whereas SC has set his teams up to play to our strengths, and to let the opposition worry about us. Long may it continue. I agree with you largely, but I'd caveat that this season in League One there has been no-one going toe to toe with us consistently. It's easy to set up teams to play to our strengths when our strengths are so much greater than that of the opposition. However, next season we are going to walk in to what I genuinely believe to be one of the very toughest leagues. The gulf in quality between 1st and 23rd (Blackpool do not count) is pretty miniscule. In the Championship you cannot predict one result from another and at the start of the season, in spite of what bookies may tell you, it always seems as though everyone has an equal chance of promotion/relegation/midtable. Because we won't be able to dominate and exert control in the way that we have this season I think we can only try to find a blend of playing to our strengths and countering the opposition. To go pig headed in to matches will not (imo) serve us well nor would undertaking some form of DMc experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's about being versatile ( like a waffle) which this team is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 3-5-2, we seem to cover every position on the pitch with that formation. I just hope after a few losses Cotts doesn't panic and change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I can't see any reason to change a winning formula until it ain't winning any more! Technically though the formation we play is 5-3-2 with wingbacks, not 3-5-2 but just splitting hairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 There has been talk of a need to change formation ,if (when) we go up ,which set up do you think we'll adopt ? A winning one If we change will the football be less attacking ? If we are more defensive then yes. If we are more attacking then no Who will miss out from the current team ? Nicky Hunt Who will we need ? Nicky Maynard, Bas Savage and Lee Johnson Is my dinner ready ? Hope so. What are we having ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I can't see any reason to change a winning formula until it ain't winning any more! Technically though the formation we play is 5-3-2 with wingbacks, not 3-5-2 but just splitting hairs. Split on: technically I think we play a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Split on: technically I think we play a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Or one up front and ten in goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 4-4-3 is the modern approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I do like our 1-2-4-1-2 formation. I keep thinking at teams will get around it, but they never seem to be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 4-4-3 is the modern approach. I was thinking 3-5-4-4-2 if we could get away with it for a few weeks. Your set up might be a little more subtle and easier to slip under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or one up front and ten in goal Too defensive and lacking creativity Tone. I'd go 9 in goal, one up front and Freeman in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think we need to ensure we play something where we score goals as you dont win games if you dont score....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Did anyone think 3-5-2 would work this season in this league? Answer is probably no. What we have done is carefully plan a team to that formation. All we have had to do is play our own game and everyone else around can worry about what they are doing. It's been seen many times this season opposition trying to match our formation and it doesn't work as they are not set up for it. I say continue in the same vein in the championship, play what we know and only change when it drastically goes wrong. All we need to do is recruit people for the same roles that have greater ability/quality which isn't 100% necessary as many of our players can step up easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I do like the 3-5-2 that we are currently playing but it will be interesting to see how we get on with it in the championship as most teams tend to play 4-2-3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I was thinking 3-5-4-4-2 if we could get away with it for a few weeks. Your set up might be a little more subtle and easier to slip under the radar. we are going to need a bigger squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's the joy Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 we will need 2 new strikers next season. JET will not cut it. agard can't hold the ball up enough. smith to come back from fulham and a quicksilver speedster to play off the shoulder add daniel bentley in goal plus eden hazard and we should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Did anyone think 3-5-2 would work this season in this league? Answer is probably no. What we have done is carefully plan a team to that formation. All we have had to do is play our own game and everyone else around can worry about what they are doing. It's been seen many times this season opposition trying to match our formation and it doesn't work as they are not set up for it. I say continue in the same vein in the championship, play what we know and only change when it drastically goes wrong. All we need to do is recruit people for the same roles that have greater ability/quality which isn't 100% necessary as many of our players can step up easily I did to be honest. We clearly recruited to play this way. Cotterill rightly calculated that we could take on and beat any side in our league with the quality we had. I've always liked this way of playing and the way we do it is ultra aggressive. However, there have been very strong hints that we will change next season. We have at times struggled against better League one sides who have been strong enough tactically to negate our strengths and exploit our weaknesses (ie Preston and Sheff Utd). We only play one centre half, which is virtually unheard of. Teams with 3 at the back normally play 3 centre halves (eg Liverpool at present). Keith Dawe gave an interview recently http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-City-chairman-Keith-Dawe-knew-Steve/story-26181581-detail/story.html What struck me is this part of the interview:- "Consequently, we are looking now at what system we play in the higher division, what sort of players will play that system and how our current players will cope with that system. "We are now identifying the types of players we need to recruit and we will endeavour to recruit the appropriate players. But we will need value for money, because sustainability is important. If that isn't a hint that we will change the structure of how we play, then I don't know what is. I would be very surprised if we don't revert to a back four next year. How the midfield and attack is structured is another matter, but I can't believe we'll play the kind of balls out football we have this year away to Derby for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Its the kind of balls out football that has brought us success this term. We need to continue in the same vein if we are to push further. Yes I would be happy to be back in the second tier, but I don't want to sit content in that division, I want us to push on this time. I just hope this summer is as positive as last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I can't see any reason to change a winning formula until it ain't winning any more! Technically though the formation we play is 5-3-2 with wingbacks, not 3-5-2 but just splitting hairs. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Now for a tug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 3-5-2 is our thing. We're winning a league with it, we've won a cup with it, we showed West ham up with it. What's the point of changing it because we're playing Nottingham Forest instead of Notts County. It's been good for us so far so unless it completely goes wrong I see no point in changing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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