BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ok, I have waited til we are promoted to ask this but apart from running around constantly what does he bring to the team. If I was JET I would be climbing the walls. In the last three games ( I will forget about the previous 10 where Agard didnt score) Agard has scored one goal (good goal it was) but didnt really threaten and ran around a lot. Jet created more in 5 minutes (included helping setting up Wilbs) against Swindon than Agard did apart from the goal, did more in 5-6 minutes at Preston and Agard missed a absolute sitter right before their goal. We scored 6 on Tuesday and Agard still cant get a goal and JET does not get a sniff today, though I think we settled for a point in the first ten minutes. I really wanted Agard to come good but I really cant see how he is gonna cut it as a centre forward in the Championship, though I hope he proves me wrong and shoves this post down my throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Badger Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Que the ' Agard offers more than goals' posters. Average player who is not good enough for the Championahip. Need 2 more strikers for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Presumably Cotterill believes Agard adds more to the team with his energy allowing us to press and the games I've seen recently he's been good and controlling the long balls. Considering the results we've been getting there hasn't been reason to change the team. I'm sure over the summer we will add at least 1 new striker so Agard probably won't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Agree with you. However because everyone is in party mode. Everyone should get a new contract. Whilst agard runs around a lot and doesn't score much how can he seriously cut it in the championship ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Strange day to raise this, I'm not his biggest fan, but though today was his best game. If he wasn't up against that monster, he'd have scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 To be fair he was outstanding against Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 To be fair he was outstanding against Preston Really, he ran around a lot I would agree but apart from that he did very little apart from miss a sitter. He did have a good shot right before he came off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Strange day to raise this, I'm not his biggest fan, but though today was his best game. If he wasn't up against that monster, he'd have scored. There is never a good day to criticise on this forum. If its after a draw or defeat its only being raised because we drew or lost. So I thought I would save it for when we had completed the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Only BCFC could find a scapegoat figure in a season where we won our first championship for 60 years and the day we actually achieved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Only BCFC could find a scapegoat figure in a season where we won our first championship for 60 years. I think you will find that all fans at all clubs are pretty much the same judging by what I read on the internet. Feel free though to explain what he brings to the team apart from running around? I have not slagged him off, I am just asking the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Jet wears gloves,so agard all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Jet wears gloves,so agard all day long I like it but JET looks more like he could kick the crap out of someone....so JET for me. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Look how long it took Flint to show his best form. He was very ordinary for much of last season and yet this season he's been immense. Bear that in mind when you critise Agard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cotterill obviously knows what he's doing. We just won the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Without doubt :laugh:,but agard is a counter puncher,too quick to hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cotterill obviously knows what he's doing. We just won the title You would hope so wouldn't you, but perhaps he might find a spot on his coaching staff, to enlighten him on how to improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Don't come here with ur sensible comments Ashton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Look how long it took Flint to show his best form. He was very ordinary for much of last season and yet this season he's been immense. Bear that in mind when you critise Agard. I like your thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 You would hope so wouldn't you, but perhaps he might find a spot on his coaching staff, to enlighten him on how to improve things. I dont doubt for a second the man knows a shitload more than me and he has just won the league 1 title to prove it (though I did once win the Champions league on football manager). Seriously though, Agard does run his ass off and that alone might free up other players to do their thing or maybe he is not yet firing on all cylinders. I know that Rotherham never played him up top like we do, so maybe thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 You would hope so wouldn't you, but perhaps he might find a spot on his coaching staff, to enlighten him on how to improve things. Yeah, I agree that Agard doesn't set the world alight and will never be remembered for his individual brilliance, but sometimes the team is greater than the sum of its parts (or whatever the phrase is). Why do you think Man U always did so well even though they had people like Ji Sung Park and Djemba Djemba in the team haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Bs3 red,I think that's how most of us see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yeah, I agree that Agard doesn't set the world alight and will never be remembered for his individual brilliance, but sometimes the team is greater than the sum of its parts (or whatever the phrase is). Why do you think Man U always did so well even though they had people like Ji Sung Park and Djemba Djemba in the team haha I'm not quite sure why Ji Sung Park is underlined there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ji Sung Park sold a lot of shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ji Sung Park sold a lot of shirts What, from a stall outside Old Trafford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yeah, I agree that Agard doesn't set the world alight and will never be remembered for his individual brilliance, but sometimes the team is greater than the sum of its parts (or whatever the phrase is). Why do you think Man U always did so well even though they had people like Ji Sung Park and Djemba Djemba in the team haha What he does (that was completely evident from Wembley and Swindon) is he keeps the pressure on the opponents back line for all of the time he is on the pitch, which prevents them venturing too far forward (unlike our back 3), he pulls centre backs out wide allowing midfielders safe passage through the middle, he doesn't give them time to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I think you will find that all fans at all clubs are pretty much the same judging by what I read on the internet. Feel free though to explain what he brings to the team apart from running around? I have not slagged him off, I am just asking the question. Imo, there is running around, but there is also constantly closing down defenders,forcing them into mistakes and not giving them anytime on the ball,which Agard does exceptionally well. Eventually this constant harassing creates chances for other players ( or himself ). Especially late on in games when the defences tire from his constant harassment. Take today when Coventry's keeper was given no time on the ball by Agard and it led to Coventry struggling to play out from the back. He's done a lot of the dirty work ( the stuff that doesn't get credit) this season and others have benefited from it. Who knows whether next season his goal tally may reflect the work he puts in for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 What he does (that was completely evident from Wembley and Swindon) is he keeps the pressure on the opponents back line for all of the time he is on the pitch, which prevents them venturing too far forward (unlike our back 3), he pulls centre backs out wide allowing midfielders safe passage through the middle, he doesn't give them time to settle. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Imo, there is running around, but there is also constantly closing down defenders,forcing them into mistakes and not giving them anytime on the ball,which Agard does exceptionally well. Eventually this constant harassing creates chances for other players ( or himself ). Especially late on in games when the defences tire from his constant harassment. Take today when Coventry's keeper was given no time on the ball by Agard and it led to Coventry struggling to play out from the back. He's done a lot of the dirty work ( the stuff that doesn't get credit) this season and others have benefited from it. Who knows whether next season his goal tally may reflect the work he puts in for the team. What Bill said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yeah, I agree that Agard doesn't set the world alight and will never be remembered for his individual brilliance, but sometimes the team is greater than the sum of its parts (or whatever the phrase is). Why do you think Man U always did so well even though they had people like Ji Sung Park and Djemba Djemba in the team haha Yep The last very good side (as a whole rather than individually) was the GJ play off side / squad and there were a few in that side that you wouldn't drool over as individuals but were a vital part of the engine And look how far they got Tbf not convinced he will cut it in CCC but totally respect the guy and hope he proves me wrong - Cotts clearly values him as he started him throughout the run in and didn't seem to be interested in bringing in another loan striker - so that will do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yep The last very good side (as a whole rather than individually) was the GJ play off side / squad and there were a few in that side that you wouldn't drool over as individuals but were a vital part of the engine And look how far they got Tbf not convinced he will cut it in CCC but totally respect the guy and hope he proves me wrong - Cotts clearly values him as he started him throughout the run in and didn't seem to be interested in bringing in another loan striker - so that will do for me Very true that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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