CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 9 hours ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. A good point. The trajectory of parachute payments means that running a sustainable Championship club means flirting with relegation endlessly. Unless you are able to make it to the Prem and get into the slosh of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwhat Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/20130206-lansdownfivepillars-641677.aspx Who knows. Dont know if Gray was realistic or not but I liked the AMBITION it showed, albeit a bit too late in the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 47 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: A good point. The trajectory of parachute payments means that running a sustainable Championship club means flirting with relegation endlessly. Unless you are able to make it to the Prem and get into the slosh of cash. You also need to bring cash in via the turnstiles. There were 27,700 at Derby last night, over 30,000 against Brighton, that means Derby are generating nearly twice as much income than we are for each home game, we simply can't compete with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooered Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 We attracted over 25000 in the late 60s early 70s in the old 2nd division with a reasonable team playing attractive football that can hold its own in the championship in a good stadium why shouldn't we expect to achieve the same numbers through ther gate again, ambition is whats required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 11 hours ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. Nail on head. We've brought a knife to a gunfight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 11 hours ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. And long may we continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 16, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 11 hours ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: A good point. The trajectory of parachute payments means that running a sustainable Championship club means flirting with relegation endlessly. Unless you are able to make it to the Prem and get into the slosh of cash. Sadly there are fewer and fewer teams that without parachute payments will not survive at the Championship level Let's be honest we walked the league last year - but this year we are nowhere near good enough. . . . the daft thing though, most weeks I sit there and honestly believe if the side of last season played we would do better than this - last night for an example, last seasons side would never have been rolled over 4-0 like that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 4 hours ago, hooered said: We attracted over 25000 in the late 60s early 70s in the old 2nd division with a reasonable team playing attractive football that can hold its own in the championship in a good stadium why shouldn't we expect to achieve the same numbers through ther gate again, ambition is whats required. A quality team is also required! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 4 hours ago, hooered said: We attracted over 25000 in the late 60s early 70s in the old 2nd division with a reasonable team playing attractive football that can hold its own in the championship in a good stadium why shouldn't we expect to achieve the same numbers through ther gate again, ambition is whats required. Cant remember many 25,000 crowds from that time or an attractive football team. I seem to remember a few seasons of struggle near the bottom of the table!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 4 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: Nail on head. We've brought a knife to a gunfight. We could win if the opponent misses and runs out of bullets . That's being positive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooered Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 1 hour ago, stephenkibby. said: Cant remember many 25,000 crowds from that time or an attractive football team. I seem to remember a few seasons of struggle near the bottom of the table!!!!! 1970 Ashton Gate verses Spurs 29,982 when pearce and chivers ended our league cup final dream, the season 1974 over 25,000 on several occasions with highest ever 34,035 in 1978 and for the years in division 1 the average 24,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langford Red Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 17 hours ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Could it simply be that we're trying to run a sustainable club in a non sustainable environment. The championship is far to competitive for a club refusing to pay average wages. Remember our crowds are to low this season Next season the whole ground will be available So there will be more money SL is not a open cheque book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 What winds me up more than anything though, are the clubs such as Southampton, Bournemouth, Cardiff , etc who are bankrupt or in administration and with transfer embargoes, and then within five or six years are in the Premier League. Makes you wonder if its worth doing the right thing if massive debts can be wiped out for the sake of a points reduction one season and then start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 26 minutes ago, hooered said: 1970 Ashton Gate verses Spurs 29,982 when pearce and chivers ended our league cup final dream, the season 1974 over 25,000 on several occasions with highest ever 34,035 in 1978 and for the years in division 1 the average 24,000. Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just now, Nogbad the Bad said: Spurs was the league cup semi final home leg, the crowd was similar ( a bit less) against Forest in 89. In 1970/71 City averaged 16,000, and 14,000 in '71/72. 1974/75 we only got large crowds against Rovers and Man.Utd, City's home average was just over 14,000. First division days we averaged from 23,500 in the first 2 seasons to just under 19,000 in the last. City's overall average attendance over the full 4 seasons in the First Division was 22,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 16, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 4 hours ago, Bicester Red said: Next season the whole ground will be available So there will be more money But unless it is priced correctly there is nothing to say we are going to increase our season ticket numbers, POTD is probably too hit and miss to rely on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 5 hours ago, Bicester Red said: Remember our crowds are to low this season Next season the whole ground will be available So there will be more money SL is not a open cheque book What a glorious over-simplification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 5 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: What winds me up more than anything though, are the clubs such as Southampton, Bournemouth, Cardiff , etc who are bankrupt or in administration and with transfer embargoes, and then within five or six years are in the Premier League. Makes you wonder if its worth doing the right thing if massive debts can be wiped out for the sake of a points reduction one season and then start again. As a City fan with a memory (1982??????) that is a tad hypocritical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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