Selred Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Please note all these tweets are from Andy Stockhausen. - City boss Steve Cotterill confirmed he will use Garita in senior squad while numbers are down. Thereafter, in under-21s. - Cotterill answered all questions at today's presser, citing financial reasons and position in table as reasons for not signing players - He said he felt a majority of City's business will be done towards the back end of the January window. - SC told journalists: "We are a way down the food chain when it comes to transfers. Money talks and we cannot compete with bigger clubs." - Cotterill admitted he was "disappointed" not to land Elliott Bennett. He felt sure he would join City up until Monday morning. - He suggested the main reason for Bennett chossing Blackburn over City was money. "We could not compete with what they were offering." - Steve Cotterill also confirmed that Nathan Baker, Derrick Williams and Luke Freeman are doubts for Saturday's FA Cup tie at West Brom. - He is resigned to having to work with a small squad until late in the transfer window. "We need a couple of good players in certain positions to make all the difference. You will then see us win games." Personally not too happy with the financial excuse, especially after what Lansdown said. Also worried we will miss targets again and depend on loans. Roll on Saturday with our 4 players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 did anyone dare ask about subs etc? Or utilizing the squad more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Selred said: Please note all these tweets are from Andy Stockhausen. - City boss Steve Cotterill confirmed he will use Garita in senior squad while numbers are down. Thereafter, in under-21s. - Cotterill answered all questions at today's presser, citing financial reasons and position in table as reasons for not signing players - He said he felt a majority of City's business will be done towards the back end of the January window. - SC told journalists: "We are a way down the food chain when it comes to transfers. Money talks and we cannot compete with bigger clubs." - Cotterill admitted he was "disappointed" not to land Elliott Bennett. He felt sure he would join City up until Monday morning. - He suggested the main reason for Bennett chossing Blackburn over City was money. "We could not compete with what they were offering." - Steve Cotterill also confirmed that Nathan Baker, Derrick Williams and Luke Freeman are doubts for Saturday's FA Cup tie at West Brom. - He is resigned to having to work with a small squad until late in the transfer window. "We need a couple of good players in certain positions to make all the difference. You will then see us win games." Personally not too happy with the financial excuse, especially after what Lansdown said. Also worried we will miss targets again and depend on loans. Roll on Saturday with our 4 players... does he actually say money or just the type of deal? Loan instead of permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 What squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Same shit, different window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 In regards to the Garita signing, it seems weird. If you're good enough a player, then being 20 shouldn't matter. Dele Alli is 19 and tearing up the Prem, so why are we throwing him in the U-21's as soon as our numbers go back up? If Garita is good enough then surely he'd go straight into the first team. I don't understand Cott's way of thinking sometimes, I really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 wow , we are waiting till end of window to sign players!! Very dangerous game. not learnt much from the summer then!! also we have many important games before end of January where a signing or two might have lifted the spirits. what we could have done for the home double header against Preston and boro to have new faces! we could be adrift by the end of January, then who will sign for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Spoons said: wow , we are waiting till end of window to sign players!! Very dangerous game. not learnt much from the summer then!! also we have many important games before end of January where a signing or two might have lifted the spirits. what we could have done for the home double header against Preston and boro to have new faces! we could be adrift by the end of January, then who will sign for us? We have 4 games. Even if we lose all four there's no way whoever is 4th from bottom will be more than 5 points ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just now, Shtanley said: We have 4 games. Even if we lose all four there's no way whoever is 4th from bottom will be more than 5 points ahead of us. 5 points would be massive to catch up,especially when we aren't picking many up. You not worried?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule The Waves Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Very disappointing press conference - as others have said we do not appear to have learnt from the pre-season farce. As others have also said, by the end of Jan we could be adrift. Massive risks being taken by the management and board, which I do not see ending well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just now, Spoons said: 5 points would be massive to catch up,especially when we aren't picking many up. You not worried?? Well I don't think we will lose all 4 so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: In regards to the Garita signing, it seems weird. If you're good enough a player, then being 20 shouldn't matter. Dele Alli is 19 and tearing up the Prem, so why are we throwing him in the U-21's as soon as our numbers go back up? If Garita is good enough then surely he'd go straight into the first team. I don't understand Cott's way of thinking sometimes, I really don't. He's been playing in the French third division, that is non league. Our chances of him being anything like Dele Alli appear remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 The end of the window, exactly what we feared, then it will be when the loan window opens. We have spent next to **** all on players this season, wasted money on loans who dont play and all we hear is financial constraints with a squad so thin its ridiculous. My faith in the board and manager is just about shot to pieces. Do we even have a fit defence we can field on saturday ? what if we pickup a couple of injurys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, Selred said: Please note all these tweets are from Andy Stockhausen. - City boss Steve Cotterill confirmed he will use Garita in senior squad while numbers are down. Thereafter, in under-21s. - Cotterill answered all questions at today's presser, citing financial reasons and position in table as reasons for not signing players - He said he felt a majority of City's business will be done towards the back end of the January window. - SC told journalists: "We are a way down the food chain when it comes to transfers. Money talks and we cannot compete with bigger clubs." - Cotterill admitted he was "disappointed" not to land Elliott Bennett. He felt sure he would join City up until Monday morning. - He suggested the main reason for Bennett chossing Blackburn over City was money. "We could not compete with what they were offering." - Steve Cotterill also confirmed that Nathan Baker, Derrick Williams and Luke Freeman are doubts for Saturday's FA Cup tie at West Brom. - He is resigned to having to work with a small squad until late in the transfer window. "We need a couple of good players in certain positions to make all the difference. You will then see us win games." Personally not too happy with the financial excuse, especially after what Lansdown said. Also worried we will miss targets again and depend on loans. Roll on Saturday with our 4 players... This seriously worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Owner says funds that can match others are available. Manager says otherwise. Cant see this ending well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Selred said: Please note all these tweets are from Andy Stockhausen. - City boss Steve Cotterill confirmed he will use Garita in senior squad while numbers are down. Thereafter, in under-21s. - Cotterill answered all questions at today's presser, citing financial reasons and position in table as reasons for not signing players - He said he felt a majority of City's business will be done towards the back end of the January window. - SC told journalists: "We are a way down the food chain when it comes to transfers. Money talks and we cannot compete with bigger clubs." - Cotterill admitted he was "disappointed" not to land Elliott Bennett. He felt sure he would join City up until Monday morning. - He suggested the main reason for Bennett chossing Blackburn over City was money. "We could not compete with what they were offering." - Steve Cotterill also confirmed that Nathan Baker, Derrick Williams and Luke Freeman are doubts for Saturday's FA Cup tie at West Brom. - He is resigned to having to work with a small squad until late in the transfer window. "We need a couple of good players in certain positions to make all the difference. You will then see us win games." Personally not too happy with the financial excuse, especially after what Lansdown said. Also worried we will miss targets again and depend on loans. Roll on Saturday with our 4 players... Tells me if we competed financially we would have signed Bennett. Again I think this proves our wage cap is preventing us from strengthening our startin 11. When you leave your business this late in the season you pay either over generous fees or agents fees or both. Explains SC being in a sulk in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Well I don't think we will lose all 4 so no. I think we might get 4 points from 4 games. Not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So we're missing Baker, Williams and Freeman this Saturday? Seriously who the **** is going to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Sounds like cotts has lost it he should just go and leave this mess for the next man to sort out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Owner says funds that can match others are available. Manager says otherwise. Cant see this ending well. Meanwhile we sign someone from the French third division... In the same week that someone chooses Blackburn over us, not hard to see who is telling the truth, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Shtanley said: We have 4 games. Even if we lose all four there's no way whoever is 4th from bottom will be more than 5 points ahead of us. What worries me more is we're banking the last minute of the transfer window. If it's anything like the summer, we may then find those players don't arrive at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shtanley said: We have 4 games. Even if we lose all four there's no way whoever is 4th from bottom will be more than 5 points ahead of us. 5 point gaps for teams at the bottom of the table is massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottsciderarmy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 This is very worrying indeed, I fear it's a case of Cotts thinking player isn't worth 10K a week, Lansdown happy to pay it, but KB and Cotts don't think worth it, so someone else pays the 10K and signs them, therefore because Cotts and KB are pig ignorant they say we can't complete rather than admitting they have no concept of what players are worth. Reportedly Lansdown said average wage in league one was 2/3K so it meant we could offer the best wages to get them to sign, therefore they can't have this approach in the Championship, but feel they shouldn't need to pay more than 5-10K a week, when most premier league youngsters are already on more than that, and most players in the top end of the Championship are on 10-20K. I don't think it's a case we can't complete as Lansdown says we can afford the wages and the money is there, I think the problem is KB and Cotts don't think 10k+ is worth paying and therefore don't tell SL to sign the cheque, probably worried they will upset the squad who are probably only on 5-7K a week each. We are going down. I have the feeling if we had a Warnock or someone in charge, we would be signing players as they would be happy to pay the going rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So in one breath SC says we need players that will see us start to win games and move up the table..... ......And in the other says we can't compete financially with the bigger teams in the division, which implies any signings we make are the dregs or an unknown gamble? Very, very worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: What worries me more is we're banking the last minute of the transfer window. If it's anything like the summer, we may then find those players don't arrive at all... Just like the summer then. That is precisely what I am expecting TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why TF aren't the resident journalists (written and tv) asking why there is a contradiction between owner and manager?! Stocky gets f'all exclusives or inside info anyway, so why doesn't he probe and press SC for answers? surely his editor wants to sell more papers!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lew-T said: So we're missing Baker, Williams and Freeman this Saturday? Seriously who the **** is going to start? Seeing as someone we can trust told us that 2 of those have been training since Tuesday, we can probably guess the side (Korey's possible fatherhood aside) now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 It seems they are comfortable taking the risk we will still be playing Championship football next season spending next to nothing. Can I be optimistic and think that we will make it and they will go for it properly in the summer hoping that the investment leads to bumper crowds with the ground complete. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just now, cottsciderarmy said: This is very worrying indeed, I fear it's a case of Cotts thinking player isn't worth 10K a week, Lansdown happy to pay it, but KB and Cotts don't think worth it, so someone else pays the 10K and signs them, therefore because Cotts and KB are pig ignorant they say we can't complete rather than admitting they have no concept of what players are worth. Reportedly Lansdown said average wage in league one was 2/3K so it meant we could offer the best wages to get them to sign, therefore they can't have this approach in the Championship, but feel they shouldn't need to pay more than 5-10K a week, when most premier league youngsters are already on more than that, and most players in the top end of the Championship are on 10-20K. I don't think it's a case we can't complete as Lansdown says we can afford the wages and the money is there, I think the problem is KB and Cotts don't think 10k+ is worth paying and therefore don't tell SL to sign the cheque, probably worried they will upset the squad who are probably only on 5-7K a week each. We are going down. I have the feeling if we had a Warnock or someone in charge, we would be signing players as they would be happy to pay the going rate. If that is true surely SL would sack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 minute ago, ciderup said: Just like the summer then. That is precisely what I am expecting TBH. Me too. And, whilst I accept Cotts' knows more than I do, I don't think it's a couple of players in key positions. I think it's 3 new players in 3 key positions plus replacements for Bennett and Moore and cover for Fielding. At the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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