BigTone Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Again I do not think we are showing any amount of ambition. We need a proven manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, chipdawg said: I apologise if I caused offence, but I personally wouldn't say someone is 'supporting' anything (regardless of their length of service) if they're "finished with the club" because they disagree with the choice of manager. LJ isn't my first choice either, but he's by no means the worst candidate mentioned In my book respect is not earned by length of service, it's earned by words and deeds. Chucking the teddies out the cot like an 8 year old child is not words or deeds that command my respect I'm afraid But duly noted that you don't agree with my farewell message to the guy Plenty 'finished with the club' upon SC's appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: Ok Steve Cotterill, if given sufficient backing under a competent board member in Ashton. Or Steve Clarke. Cotterill shot himself in the foot by sticking with the same formation, trying to get targets out of reach, and totally disregarding our academy. If Cott's showed a change in formation, signed a realistic player, or put an academy player on the bench when we were short, I'd agree. Clarke's record doesn't scream wonders, didn't do well at all in his second season at West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 So we sack Cotts for Lee Johnson..... Well this board had firmly shown its colours. I now truly believe Cotts was sacked as he was actually trying to show ambition and we can't be having that. We want a yes man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 No point going up the Avon Gorge as he's no doubt staying at one of his houses around Bristol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Lord Northski said: Feels like a Monday Tell me why ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gazred said: I learnt my lesson with SC. Maybe not who we were all expecting but you have to give whoever comes in a fair crack at it - you never know what can happen. The truly staggering thing is more aren't thinking like you. Probably 99% of the posters spouting misinformed or preconceived drivel about LJ were vocally opposed to Cotts. You'd think after that roller coaster people would give someone a chance and not write them off before even arriving. Alas, we can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: Give the bloke a chance ffs!!!! i for one am happy and will back him 100% While not wise to pre judge the conclusion of 'talks' is it the same people here jumping up and down as jumped up and down when SC was appointed? Only time will tell. It is what it is, get over it. And i would suspect the back room staff will remain and pillars in place still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Pathetic. This last month has really destroyed my view on this board we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1414England Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Any chance of us getting behind Lee Johnson and wanting him to do well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Anyone know which clubs have a perfect record of appointing amazing managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 O.......M........G........... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Please God. I'll be good from now on. DO NOT let this happen. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can someone advise on the etiquette relating to how soon you can boo a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Swear we had a similar thread when Cotts was installed as manager... one season of safety and a double winning season later... Football is fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 This is all BarnsleyTykes fault. Be afraid, be very afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Atticus said: So we sack Cotts for Lee Johnson..... We sacked Cotts because we were sleepwalking to relegation and a change was needed. If you're under any illusions about that, I suggest you look at his last ten league games and do the maths. Look at goals conceded vs scored and points per game. We were doomed under Cotterill and with his refusal to consider changing the system and then picking fights with supporters, he made his position utterly untenable. LJ just happens to be the next person in the hot seat. Cotts wasn't sacked 'for LJ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Underwhelmed to say the least, the smarmy Mr Ashton told the world that people would be surprised at the applicants, well you can say that again mate and now we can fully understand it and not in a good way. I wouldn't be overjoyed had the job gone to Pemberton and Elliott but feeling better than if LJ get's the job. After the lofty ambitions of the premiership in SL's speech when SC was fired, we get this, not ambition IMO just one big cheap experiment. I have nothing against LJ and really hope he makes a success of things, so if he does get the job the best of luck because by **** you are going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: O.......M........G........... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Please God. I'll be good from now on. DO NOT let this happen. Uncle TFR Out of interest how vocally supportive were you when Cotterill was named? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, Selred said: Cotterill shot himself in the foot by sticking with the same formation, trying to get targets out of reach, and totally disregarding our academy. If Cott's showed a change in formation, signed a realistic player, or put an academy player on the bench when we were short, I'd agree. Clarke's record doesn't scream wonders, didn't do well at all in his second season at West Brom. Changing to a more secure 4-3-3 has seen us score once in the last four games, despite being able to sign some decent players. Steve Clarke's 'poor record' was In the Premier League! He was 9th when he got the chop from Reading, they're now 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, 1414England said: Any chance of us getting behind Lee Johnson and wanting him to do well? Don't be stupid. How will that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The main reason this will end in tears is small minded fans who can't look past LJ the managers son. IMO this is a silly appointment for that reason not because of his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 What did we really expect? Any of the names originally bandied about? Bit like the supposed ambition when we were supposed to be making £9M bids earlier in the season. Realism is needed. We're 3rd off the bottom of the Championship. For most of the season results have been dire. Some players have improved of late. Some are still woeful. We've brought in some better players since Cotterill had his rant and was shown the door. Hardly an attractive proposition is it? David Moyes coming? Laughable. Little Lee would be a fantastic appointment. He couldn't do any worse than Cotterill and many others. And he might just be an inspirational choice. Get him in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEBRIT66 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I’m really not fussed who the next manager is, what division we play in or where we play, Ive been through the ups and downs and I will follow Bristol City regardless. Its all part of the beautiful game just enjoy the ride which ever direction it takes us. There are far worst things going on in this world to get upset about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, 1414England said: Any chance of us getting behind Lee Johnson and wanting him to do well? I hope we all do. However, and its a big however. WTF are BCFC thinking about!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, supercidered said: I get what you are saying, I really do. My opinion is that, I just can't see why the hell the board or whoever or collectively we have come up with LJ as the best option. It really beggars belief. He has done the sum total of nothing. Future, maybe but present, it borders on lunacy. The thing is we don't have access to all available information. If I was making an appointment in any line of work, there are a number of factors I'd consider. Briefly they might be: 1. Past experience 2. How they come across in the application 3. How they come across in an interview. 4. How well they come across to anyone they speak to outside the organisation. 5. How well they understand the challenges the organisation. 6. How well they understand the culture of the organisation and would it in with other staff, the people they're managing and the people who are managing them. 7. What ideas or plans they have for the future of the organisation. All of these and more are important in recruiting the right person and, generally speaking, appointing someone on experience alone and ignoring the other six factors can lead to very bad decisions whilst sometimes the first point matters less because they do well on points two to seven and you very see what they could bring to the role. As fans we only have experience of point one. We know the managers' past experience but we don't really know anything about points two to seven. Therefore we judge the club without really having the full picture. This might be a bad decision or it might be one where the club have very strong reasons we don't have access to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: What did we really expect? Any of the names originally bandied about? Bit like the supposed ambition when we were supposed to be making £9M bids earlier in the season. Realism is needed. We're 3rd off the bottom of the Championship. For most of the season results have been dire. Some players have improved of late. Some are still woeful. We've brought in some better players since Cotterill had his rant and was shown the door. Hardly an attractive proposition is it? David Moyes coming? Laughable. Little Lee would be a fantastic appointment. He couldn't do any worse than Cotterill and many others. And he might just be an inspirational choice. Get him in I really expected more than an untried League 1 Manager to fight our corner in a relegation fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Obviously, with the majority of managers getting sacked at some point in their career, we need to create some sort of OTIB 'rule' when, after LJ leads us to the Premier and then Europe, but the following season we finish 10th and he gets sacked, people aren't allowed to say 'I said he was shit when we appointed him'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Out of interest how vocally supportive were you when Cotterill was named? I can't remember - I think I was 'lets wait and see how he does'. For a more in depth reply, I invite you to look back through the last two years worth of threads. In the meantime .......... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: I can't remember - I think I was 'lets wait and see how he does'. For a more in depth reply, I invite you to look back through the last two years worth of threads. In the meantime .......... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Uncle TFR At least you must be pleased we didn't appoint Warnock now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can't wait until someone digs this thread up in March 2017 to tell us how wrong we all were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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