RedRock Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Having been in a profession that used 'process' and 'methods' decades before it became fashionable with management types, a couple of words in your ear matey. 1) Use Plain English when communicating with the masses. 2) Football is an 'Art', so leave ample room for intuition in decision-making. 3) People often become blinded by 'process' and 'methods' with them becoming the end rather than means to an end, stifling imaginative and creative thinking. That's all :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Moor2Sea said: Having been in a profession that used 'process' and 'methods' decades before it became fashionable with management types, a couple of words in your ear matey. 1) Use Plain English when communicating with the masses. 2) Football is an 'Art', so leave ample room for intuition in decision-making. 3) People often become blinded by 'process' and 'methods' with them becoming the end rather than means to an end, stifling imaginative and creative thinking. That's all :-) Would that be one of the "older" professions, mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, Jack Dawe said: Would that be one of the "older" professions, mate? If only :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Moor2Sea said: Having been in a profession that used 'process' and 'methods' decades before it became fashionable with management types, a couple of words in your ear matey. 1) Use Plain English when communicating with the masses. 2) Football is an 'Art', so leave ample room for intuition in decision-making. 3) People often become blinded by 'process' and 'methods' with them becoming the end rather than means to an end, stifling imaginative and creative thinking. That's all :-) Have the 'masses' become so dumbed down that they now can't understand plain English? I really don't understand the venom being thrown at MA. He speaks eloquently, is smart and professional in appearance, and since being here the Club have been more informative about what's going on. What do people want...a bloke moaning all the time, talking like a wurzel, and wearing a gold chain and a pot of hair gel and snarling his nostrils...oh....hang on a minute...I get it now ;-) In all seriousness...the club seem damned if they do...damned if they don't. All I can see from certain fans is a reverse snobbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yeah, Mark use plain English FFS. Pretentious arsehole. Quote MA: "Be under no illusions - Lee is experienced. John Pemberton is there and very experienced in the background too." MA: "He's very bright, educated and clear on what he wants to do. It's about a way of working and being attuned to how Lee wants to work." MA: "It was a good, healthy interview - quite punchy at times! What came across was how detailed and professional Lee is." MA: "Lee fits the type of head coach or manager I like to appoint. What we won't fail on is hard work. It's not a job, it's a way of life." MA: "It would be unprofessional to say who else I spoke to. Lee is very detailed in his approach and I believe the time is right for him." MA: "There are other clubs who would take Lee tomorrow. He was always going to be our first choice." MA: "I had a list of people I would recommend and the Board had theirs. Lee's name was on both. I like to appoint young and bright people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, spudski said: Have the 'masses' become so dumbed down that they now can't understand plain English? I really don't understand the venom being thrown at MA. He speaks eloquently, is smart and professional in appearance, and since being here the Club have been more informative about what's going on. What do people want...a bloke moaning all the time, talking like a wurzel, and wearing a gold chain and a pot of hair gel and snarling his nostrils...oh....hang on a minute...I get it now ;-) In all seriousness...the club seem damned if they do...damned if they don't. All I can see from certain fans is a reverse snobbery. It's good to see someone sticking up for the club, spud. If you don't do it, who will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 We need to synergise with Mr Ashton. Let's be clear about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 28 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: Would that be one of the "older" professions, mate? Trump to Foot; now you are looking like flip flopper!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 That man has a very unusual middle name, make no mistake. What were his folks thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: It's good to see someone sticking up for the club, spud. If you don't do it, who will? I've been one of the Clubs biggest critics JD...but I can only see the Club trying to do the right thing and improve now...so credit where credit is due. As 'Kid' points out...he speaks plain English and makes sense. All I see from certain fans, is a reverse snobbery...a fear of a 'suit'...did someone bully them at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 The "masses" are having our cake, and eating it. Didn't @Badger once say, let them eat cake?* First, we chastise the club for telling us diddly-squat. Then, we do the same for talking to us in tongues. It's one of the few pleasures of being a long-term fan of an unsuccessful club. We have to take our minds off the football and league table somehow, don't we? *I might be getting muddled up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 The blokes a complete belter in my humble opinion. I dont really see any place for a non productive smart ass at BCFC to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said: We need to synergise with Mr Ashton. Let's be clear about this. It's not in our DNA to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Maybe, during his next interview, MA should hold a can of Natch and have a smearing of Clarks pie down his tie to endear himself to those moaning.......he's from Dudley FFS, can't be that difficult to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, spudski said: I've been one of the Clubs biggest critics JD...but I can only see the Club trying to do the right thing and improve now...so credit where credit is due. As 'Kid' points out...he speaks plain English and makes sense. All I see from certain fans, is a reverse snobbery...a fear of a 'suit'...did someone bully them at work? I'm glad you asked me that question....as @Sir Colby-Tit says, let me be clear about that. I think you'd be "surprised" at some of the names on here that have been bullied at work....probably for spending time on Otib.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Mark Ashton's fluent in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, bris red said: I dont really see any place for a non productive smart ass at BCFC to be honest. Non-productive? 5 players and a new manager in just over 3 weeks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, RedRaw said: Non-productive? 5 players and a new manager in just over 3 weeks....... Just think what he could do with a whole summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, RedRaw said: Non-productive? 5 players and a new manager in just over 3 weeks....... Clearly not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, RedRaw said: Non-productive? 5 players and a new manager in just over 3 weeks....... Meh. Jury's out for me on the geezer to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 49 minutes ago, Moor2Sea said: Having been in a profession that used 'process' and 'methods' decades before it became fashionable with management types, a couple of words in your ear matey. 1) Use Plain English when communicating with the masses. 2) Football is an 'Art', so leave ample room for intuition in decision-making. 3) People often become blinded by 'process' and 'methods' with them becoming the end rather than means to an end, stifling imaginative and creative thinking. That's all :-) Perhaps you should touch base with him for some blue sky thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Non-productive? 5 players and a new manager in just over 3 weeks....... I'm so confused about what he actually does. Has Mark Ashton taken over Keith Burt's role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, ashton_fan said: Perhaps you should touch base with him for some blue sky thinking Think @Moor2Sea is more of a red sky at night, red sky in the morning kind of guy. It's in his DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Before retiring, I had to "touch base" with all these CEO's and HR people. It's in their DNA to chat this Jargon. If you asked them if they wanted a cup of tea they'd come out with "Planning ahead ,with due diligence and blue-sky thinking, I'll run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: Mark Ashton's fluent in Funnily...the total plonker calling bullsh1t in that picture reminds me of some of the comedians on here...you couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, spudski said: I've been one of the Clubs biggest critics JD...but I can only see the Club trying to do the right thing and improve now...so credit where credit is due. As 'Kid' points out...he speaks plain English and makes sense. All I see from certain fans, is a reverse snobbery...a fear of a 'suit'...did someone bully them at work? There certainly does seem to be a bit of that, Spud. The bloke has been brought here to handle the business side of footballing operations and so he looks and sounds like a businessman. Footall clubs are businesses and need to be run on sound financial criteria. We've seen some impressive arrivals since he's been here, so unless I see proof he is in league with the Devil, I am happy he works for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, BCFC Jordan said: I'm so confused about what he actually does. Has Mark Ashton taken over Keith Burt's role? You obviously don't get the point, if nobody knows what he does he can't get blamed for anything, that's how most managers operate and why they have fancy job titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 it all maters not whatever he says or the way that he says it because his job will be safe until something better comes his way, he could for instance arrange deals for a raft of shit players that he and Burt come up with, it will only be the manager/coach who will pay the price not only for his own decisions but also for the decisions of others of course unless something better comes the way of the manager/coach as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, BCFC Jordan said: I'm so confused about what he actually does. Has Mark Ashton taken over Keith Burt's role? As I understand it, he is the link between Coach/DOF/Scouts and the board......naturally he will be a more "corporate" type, however, he does have a grounding and hands-on football experience. For instance, the Coach/DOF will list/recommend players they want and MA will take it from there, contacting clubs/agents/negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, RedRaw said: As I understand it, he is the link between Coach/DOF/Scouts and the board......naturally he will be a more "corporate" type, however, he does have a grounding and hands-on football experience. For instance, the Coach/DOF will list/recommend players they want and MA will take it from there, contacting clubs/agents/negotiations Exactly this. Plus he's not just a corporate suit. He was a goalkeeper for WBA wasn't he? So he has a background in the game. Some people are so scared of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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