Admin Ian M Posted May 29, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Numbers in brackets: (Seniors / U21s with 1+ appearances in 15-16) Goalkeepers: (2/1) Richard O'Donnell (2018) Frankie Fielding (2018) Ivan Lučić (signed 27/07/16) (2018, club holds an extra year option) Right Backs: (2/0) Mark Little (2017) Adam Matthews (signed 28/7/16) (season long loan) Centre Backs: (3/1) Aden Flint (2020) Hordur Magnússon (signed 13/7/16) (2019) Bailey Wright (signed 6/1/17) (2019) Zak Vyner (2018, club holds an extra year option) Left Backs: (2/0) Scott Golbourne (2018) Joe Bryan (2019) Midfielders: (10/1) Korey Smith (2019) Marlon Pack (2018, club holds extra year option) Luke Freeman (2017) Bobby Reid (2018) Josh Brownhill (Signed 2/6/16) (2018) Gary O'Neil (Signed 9/6/16) (2018) Lee Tomlin (Signed 5/7/16) (2019) Callum O'Dowda (Signed 14/7/16) (2019) Jamie Patterson (Signed 27/8/16) (2019) Jens Hegeler (Signed 4/1/17) (2019) Jonny Smith (signed 18/5/16) (2018) Forwards: (4/0) Aaron Wilbraham (2017) Tammy Abraham (season long loan) Gustav Engvall (Signed 31/8/16) (2019) Milan Djuric (Signed 4/1/17) (2019) Total: (23 senior, 3 U21s) On Loan: Wes Burns (2018, club holds extra year option) Taylor Moore (signed 25/8/16) (2019) George Dowling (2017) Max O'Leary (2018, club holds an extra year option) Diego De Girolamo (signed 7/7/16) (2017, club holds extra year option) Departures: Adam El Abd (17/6/16) Luke Ayling (11/8/16) Kieron Agard (11/8/16) Derrick Williams (26/8/16) Jonathan Kodjia (30/8/16) Joel Ekstrand (1/1/17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 29, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Placeholder incase someone with more knowledge can provide a breakdown of the U21 squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Scary reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 29, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Scary reading! To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Ian M said: To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Agreed, no real issues with a first XI but the pure lack of numbers in certain areas is scary. 3 or 4 quality additions and it'll look a fair bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Think we will need more than 3 or 4 additions with the loss of the emergency loan system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, Ian M said: To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Looking at that team we certainly need a minimum of 4 quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 33 minutes ago, Ian M said: To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Wes ahead of Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 saw the title and was expecting a write up of a firm out of Weston...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Ian M said: To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Could potentially be O'Donnell Matthews Flint Mawson Golbourne Pack Smith Tomlin Reid Bryan Kodjia Bench: Feilding Williams Ayling Freeman Brownhill Hammill Wilbs Then we'll have: O'Leary Dowling Burns Vyner Agard Little El-Abd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Smith will be suspended for first game of season remember so maybe: O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Bryan Burns Reid Freeman Kodjia At the moment of course . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 That's a league one team right there. Need a massive overhaul tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Bit inadequate having one category for Midfielders. Having a Wide Midfielders one in addition to Midfielders would be more helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 I think Garita has to be put in there if you've got Dowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 29, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 56 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: I think Garita has to be put in there if you've got Dowling. Dowling made 2 first team appearances. Garita made none. I had to have a qualifying factor for youths or I might as well have included the entire U21 squad. Plus those who have watched the U21s regularly will tell you Garita is a long way from being near the first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Ian M said: Dowling made 2 first team appearances. Garita made none. I had to have a qualifying factor for youths or I might as well have included the entire U21 squad. Plus those who have watched the U21s regularly will tell you Garita is a long way from being near the first team squad. I thought he did play? Oh, I take it back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 If (a very big if) we did add only four new players by season's kick off, it is obvious by that squad that the need for another centre back is by far our biggest gap at present. At least one more midfielder would come next (with Korey suspended, possibly two) and then another striker. Good as Adam Matthews was, our need for another right back, (or a goalkeeper as long as O'Donnell stayed fit) would come much further down the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Agreed, no real issues with a first XI but the pure lack of numbers in certain areas is scary. 3 or 4 quality additions and it'll look a fair bit better. No issues? That team would go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 18 hours ago, Ian M said: To be fair, I think we are better off than on the same day last year. The following team might not challenge at the top but wouldn't be absolutely terrible on the first day next season and we will surely sign some players by August. O'Donnell Ayling Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Smith Freeman Reid Bryan Kodjia Its a squad game,and we would go down with a flourish if that were the pick of our squad.fortunately,it won't be(hopefully)..need four top signings in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 7 hours ago, RedDave said: No issues? That team would go down Well I was being kind, like it or not, 6-8 of those players as a minimum will be in and around the match day squad next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 30, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 That team is only 3 players away from the main team that was displaying play off form under Johnson. We will sign players this time round but at this time last year we were struggling to put out an XI on tour, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Having now watched Mawson for 90 minutes on the telly, I'd go in for him, and Pearce to cover the central defence gaps. I'd also give Mawson time to adapt, hence the experience of Pearce too. Mariappa has been mentioned and he would be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Here's one for you. How about Sako on loan from Palace? Seemingly out of favour with them and will surely strengthen in summer, would be a good wide forward to compliment kodjia. Is quality in the championship also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Realistically how much money will LJ and Mr Charisma (or whoever is in charge of trasnfers now) be given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Bottom line is we need some serious signings, bare-bones of a squad and many of our key players gone due to them being loans. Very important transfer window for us, get it wrong and we could be facing relegation, get it right and we could actually start to cement a place in this league and push up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 30, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 It's still worth noting that we are stronger than this point last season. On 30th May 2015 this was the state of our squad: Goalkeepers: Frank Fielding Right Backs/Wing Backs: Mark Little Left Backs/Wing Backs: Joe Bryan Centre Backs: Aden Flint Luke Ayling Derrick Williams Adam El Abd Midfield: Korey Smith Scott Wagstaff Luke Freeman Marlon Pack Bobby Reid Forwards: Aaron Wilbraham Kieran Agard Wes Burns Total: 15 By the time the season started we had expanded this to 18 with the signings of Kodjia & Fredericks and the loan of Robinson. From all the interviews with Ashton & Johnson they seem to be well aware that last season's window cannot be repeated, especially without the ability to sign emergency loans; Baker, Bennett & Moore were added to that 18 before January but Fredericks left again leaving us with a squad of 20. We need 3 signings to get us to a senior squad of 20 and Johnson has spoken of wanting nearer 8 but the biggest factor for me is the amount of Championship experience we have gained since this point last year. Up front we are clearly better than May last year with the signing and settling of Kodjia. We are much the same personnel wise in midfield but with that greater experience, and slightly better off in defence (Golbourne) and goal (O'Donnell). The squad that finished last season was performing as the 6th best side in the division. That team lacks Matthews (may well sign), Baker (a signing will be made here) & Tomlin (haven't given up hope here but signing Hammill would leave us better than from August-January last season) plus a sub or two. Sit back, relax and trust lessons will have been learned. Next season we will finish a minimum of 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think my concern is that we're most likely only going to either be able to attract tired old legs looking for a final paycheck, or hungry youngsters from League 1. I don't see us signing any current Championship talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Ian M said: It's still worth noting that we are stronger than this point last season. On 30th May 2015 this was the state of our squad: Goalkeepers: Frank Fielding Right Backs/Wing Backs: Mark Little Left Backs/Wing Backs: Joe Bryan Centre Backs: Aden Flint Luke Ayling Derrick Williams Adam El Abd Midfield: Korey Smith Scott Wagstaff Luke Freeman Marlon Pack Bobby Reid Forwards: Aaron Wilbraham Kieran Agard Wes Burns Total: 15 By the time the season started we had expanded this to 18 with the signings of Kodjia & Fredericks and the loan of Robinson. From all the interviews with Ashton & Johnson they seem to be well aware that last season's window cannot be repeated, especially without the ability to sign emergency loans; Baker, Bennett & Moore were added to that 18 before January but Fredericks left again leaving us with a squad of 20. We need 3 signings to get us to a senior squad of 20 and Johnson has spoken of wanting nearer 8 but the biggest factor for me is the amount of Championship experience we have gained since this point last year. Up front we are clearly better than May last year with the signing and settling of Kodjia. We are much the same personnel wise in midfield but with that greater experience, and slightly better off in defence (Golbourne) and goal (O'Donnell). The squad that finished last season was performing as the 6th best side in the division. That team lacks Matthews (may well sign), Baker (a signing will be made here) & Tomlin (haven't given up hope here but signing Hammill would leave us better than from August-January last season) plus a sub or two. Sit back, relax and trust lessons will have been learned. Next season we will finish a minimum of 12th. We still had Greg Cunningham then didn`t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted May 30, 2016 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: We still had Greg Cunningham then didn`t we? That we did, forgot about him being allowed to leave because "we don't have enough numbers anyway, what's one more?" I still maintain the squad is stronger now than 12 months ago and even including our emergency loans after the window closed we are only 3 signings away from matching that number and I expect us to sign 6 by the time the window closes, allowing Lee to confidently send some of the U21s out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandy Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 On 29/05/2016 at 12:11, Ian M said: Numbers in brackets: (Seniors / U21s with 1+ appearances in 15-16) Goalkeepers: (2/1) Richard O'Donnell Frankie Fielding Max O'Leary Right Backs: (2/0) Luke Ayling Mark Little Centre Backs: (3/1) Aden Flint Derrick Williams Adam El Abd Zak Vyner Left Backs: (1/0) Scott Golbourne Midfielders: (5/1) Korey Smith Marlon Pack Joe Bryan Luke Freeman Bobby Reid George Dowling Forwards: (4/0) Jonathan Kodjia Aaron Wilbraham Kieron Agard Wes Burns Total: (17 senior, 3 U21s) A stark reminder of just how crucial this summer's recruitment is. We not only need quality but numbers. The powers that be have said all the right things let's hope they can put it in to practise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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