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MarcusX

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10 hours ago, Woodsy said:

I'm not embarrassed at all a City fan has been jailed. Lets hear his side of the story first, shall we?

Eh? He's sunburnt scum, the scourge of the beautiful game

Stunning, absolutely stunning. I'm sure he then went on to congratulate the Orlando gunman. What a *****

As for my trip, it's off. The lad in our group who was bang up for it had a fb message from a friend last night, had been in Marseilles and had tickets for all group games, saying they were coming home. Backed up by a PM on here this morning, I'm gutted, but I know we've made the right choice

To anyone still over there, stay safe people. And if you don't feel safe, just come home. It's only a game of football, it's just not worth it

if he wants someone to sell his tickets to let me know!

id do anything to be back out there, regardless of the trouble. It IS avoidable, at the expense of a few hours in a pub, and I think the worst is over.

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1 hour ago, In the Net said:

The video in the article is well worth a watch - the video was put together by a Rovers fan (not Jake!), but the guy speaking on camera is not one of ours.

I keep reading phrases like 'highly trained' and 'organised', but I've watched quite a few videos and all I can see is a bunch of blokes running down the road - or across the terraces - swinging random punches and kicks. The same as football hooligans always have done. I really don't think it's taking football violence to a new level, as some have claimed. I think it's just that we haven't really seen it in this country for years, so we've forgotten what it looks like. 

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15 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

 

I keep reading phrases like 'highly trained' and 'organised', but I've watched quite a few videos and all I can see is a bunch of blokes running down the road - or across the terraces - swinging random punches and kicks. The same as football hooligans always have done. I really don't think it's taking football violence to a new level, as some have claimed. I think it's just that we haven't really seen it in this country for years, so we've forgotten what it looks like. 

Read the stories of people that were there, don't go by a few short videos. This was highly organised, epitomised by the flare that signalled the all out Assualt in the stadium.

 

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49 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

 

I keep reading phrases like 'highly trained' and 'organised', but I've watched quite a few videos and all I can see is a bunch of blokes running down the road - or across the terraces - swinging random punches and kicks. The same as football hooligans always have done. I really don't think it's taking football violence to a new level, as some have claimed. I think it's just that we haven't really seen it in this country for years, so we've forgotten what it looks like. 

Russian crews take part in the International hooligan total fighting championships v other groups from Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. It is televised! They have training camps and specialise in MMA.

Having travelled to Moscow to watch England I would say the Russians and other Eastern European nations have invented new forms of hooliganism such as fair fighting.

Some of Moscow Torpedeo's boys escorted Bristol City lads around Moscow for the night, they didn't touch a drop of alcohol, were genial hosts, 8am the next morning they turned up at the hotel " now we have a fight yes ...!"

 

 

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45 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

 

I keep reading phrases like 'highly trained' and 'organised', but I've watched quite a few videos and all I can see is a bunch of blokes running down the road - or across the terraces - swinging random punches and kicks. The same as football hooligans always have done. I really don't think it's taking football violence to a new level, as some have claimed. I think it's just that we haven't really seen it in this country for years, so we've forgotten what it looks like. 

Have you seen Collymores' vid where he says gangs suddenly appear then on a whistle command start attacking? I'd say that was pretty organised.

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35 minutes ago, Andy1970 said:

Have you seen Collymores' vid where he says gangs suddenly appear then on a whistle command start attacking? I'd say that was pretty organised.

Add to small matter of wearing go-pros , carrying bum-bags containing gum shields, weapons , MMA gloves etc etc

Id suggest high planning  which requires a great amount of organisation and training !

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Kid in the Riot

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The Russians were organised alright, and the Marseille police utterly disorganised.  

All they had to do was kettle 150 Russians but instead they let them cause havoc across the city all day.

Has a single Russian fan been nicked yet? I hear they've deported a coach load, but not nicked them and those that caused all the trouble in Marseille are 'still at large'. How has that been allowed to happen?

It's not like they're difficult to spot either, built like bodybuilders, usually in hot pants and bum bags. And coming at you with a ******* chair.

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1 hour ago, WTMS said:

Russian crews take part in the International hooligan total fighting championships v other groups from Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. It is televised! They have training camps and specialise in MMA.

Having travelled to Moscow to watch England I would say the Russians and other Eastern European nations have invented new forms of hooliganism such as fair fighting.

Some of Moscow Torpedeo's boys escorted Bristol City lads around Moscow for the night, they didn't touch a drop of alcohol, were genial hosts, 8am the next morning they turned up at the hotel " now we have a fight yes ...!"

 

 

I thought you were kidding at first but that really is incredible!

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4 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Great news. Hopefully the Somerset County Gazette, amongst others, who've been quick to cover the story with pictures of his arrest, and another huge picture of his face from facebook will be equally quick to publicise the latest developments. 

Don't bank on it Noggers. I've just seen a report on bbc news which still peddles the lies. Points West reporting his sentence at 10:30 tonight, when he was released without charge over 24 hours ago. He's been vilified and his photo in every paper and media outlet, but hasn't done anything. I'm sure they won't be apologising. 

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Just been at Portugal-Iceland in Saint Etienne. For those going to the Slovakia game who need to get the train back to Lyon afterwards, they use a queuing system similar to the one at the Millennium Stadium, and just load you on to the next train. We've actually ended up on an earlier train than we'd booked for which is a bonus! You will need a ticket as they were checking them coming in to the station. 

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14 minutes ago, Harry said:

Don't bank on it Noggers. I've just seen a report on bbc news which still peddles the lies. Points West reporting his sentence at 10:30 tonight, when he was released without charge over 24 hours ago. He's been vilified and his photo in every paper and media outlet, but hasn't done anything. I'm sure they won't be apologising. 

Let's hope he takes them to the cleaners with a decent lawyer. Should pay for his trip.

Interesting the Biased Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) were reporting an hour or so ago that English fans launched unprovoked attacks on the Russians today. What with the recent migrant stories, I've now lost any remaining faith in that  organisation. Get rid as far as I'm concerned.  The 'news' reporting is just utter trash and propoganda. Can't wait to see their reaction to a leave vote victory.

Thankfully,  Sky News and all the papers have now woken up to what's going on in France  and reporting it as such. 

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One Team In Keynsham

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1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Just been at Portugal-Iceland in Saint Etienne. For those going to the Slovakia game who need to get the train back to Lyon afterwards, they use a queuing system similar to the one at the Millennium Stadium, and just load you on to the next train. We've actually ended up on an earlier train than we'd booked for which is a bonus! You will need a ticket as they were checking them coming in to the station. 

Might well have been on the same train as you back into Lyon.   Cracking day in Saint-Etienne with 10+% of Iceland's population.   Lovely ground and a good match.

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1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Just been at Portugal-Iceland in Saint Etienne. For those going to the Slovakia game who need to get the train back to Lyon afterwards, they use a queuing system similar to the one at the Millennium Stadium, and just load you on to the next train. We've actually ended up on an earlier train than we'd booked for which is a bonus! You will need a ticket as they were checking them coming in to the station. 

Cheers for the tip. Really looking forward to going back to St Etienne next Monday 18 years after I last saw England there (in what remains, to this day, the best atmosphere I've ever experienced at a football match). As One Team In Keynsham says above, it's a really decent ground to watch football in. 

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10 hours ago, WTMS said:

Some of Moscow Torpedeo's boys escorted Bristol City lads around Moscow for the night, they didn't touch a drop of alcohol, were genial hosts, 8am the next morning they turned up at the hotel " now we have a fight yes ...!"

 

At last, a group that DOES consult with you before taking action...

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10 hours ago, WTMS said:

Russian crews take part in the International hooligan total fighting championships v other groups from Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. It is televised! They have training camps and specialise in MMA.

Having travelled to Moscow to watch England I would say the Russians and other Eastern European nations have invented new forms of hooliganism such as fair fighting.

Some of Moscow Torpedeo's boys escorted Bristol City lads around Moscow for the night, they didn't touch a drop of alcohol, were genial hosts, 8am the next morning they turned up at the hotel " now we have a fight yes ...!"

 

 

By the way, presuming your response was 'No thanks', how did they react to that?

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1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said:

By the way, presuming your response was 'No thanks', how did they react to that?

No thanks was the answer provided over the hotels telecom. There was no untoward reaction. Similar happened to other fans of other clubs following England. It was an amusing anecdote from an enlightening trip. The English drink am and pm, make a lot of noise, wave their arms around and its viewed as hooliganism. The Russians don't drink, stay sober, and are training to fight. That is pub drunks v boxers.  

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37 minutes ago, WTMS said:

No thanks was the answer provided over the hotels telecom. There was no untoward reaction. Similar happened to other fans of other clubs following England. It was an amusing anecdote from an enlightening trip. The English drink am and pm, make a lot of noise, wave their arms around and its viewed as hooliganism. The Russians don't drink, stay sober, and are training to fight. That is pub drunks v boxers.  

Interesting indeed. Although I think you're painting a slightly rose-tinted view about the English fans. Certainly England fans of the past have displayed some appalling violence, and even the current crop have been fighting, throwing chairs and bottles, and basically leaving Marseille looking lije a rubbish dump. I would say that definitely classes as hooliganism

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16 hours ago, WTMS said:

Russian crews take part in the International hooligan total fighting championships v other groups from Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. It is televised! They have training camps and specialise in MMA.

Having travelled to Moscow to watch England I would say the Russians and other Eastern European nations have invented new forms of hooliganism such as fair fighting.

Some of Moscow Torpedeo's boys escorted Bristol City lads around Moscow for the night, they didn't touch a drop of alcohol, were genial hosts, 8am the next morning they turned up at the hotel " now we have a fight yes ...!"

 

 

Sounds like you could hang around with slightly more reputable hosts, mind. 

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