Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Considering we have one of the highest distances to travel The football league fixture department don't do Bristol City any favours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Surely every club would have the same number? Isn't every fixture date a full program to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: Considering we have one of the highest distances to travel The football league fixture department don't do Bristol City any favours On the plus side that means we have 18 home on a Saturday and 16 away - so more home games on a Saturday is good? Taken from http://www.efl.com/news/article/2016/efl-fixtures-qa-with-competitions-manager-paul-snellgrove-3144384.aspx Maybe what you mention above is exactly the reason why we are away more? Midweek fixtures are always a big talking point... During our extensive review process we do look at all long journeys significantly and try to achieve the best solution overall. We will try and balance it out – if a club has five away trips, we'll do our best to make sure three or four out of those five aren't excessive in distance. One or two might be, but it will never be a case of every away trip being long distance, as we will always try to achieve a balance over a batch of away trips. Ultimately we do our utmost to avoid excessive journeys for supporters. We tend to schedule the most local games for weekends rather than midweek as that approach helps to maximise attendances at games across the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Brighton(simlar travelling distances to our selves) have 7 home and five away mid week fixtures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sending us to Ipswich on new years eve is ridiculous seems us and Cardiff have the worst fixture. Aston Villa V Leeds 15:00 Barnsley V Birmingham 15:00 Brentford V Norwich 15:00 Brighton V Cardiff 15:00 Derby V Wigan 15:00 Huddersfield V Blackburn 15:00 Ipswich V Bristol City 15:00 Newcastle V Nottm Forest 15:00 Preston V Sheff Wed 15:00 Reading V Fulham 15:00 Rotherham V Burton 15:00 Wolves V QPR 15:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I might be missing something but I can only see 4 at home and 5 away, unless you are counting bank holiday games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, Big C said: I might be missing something but I can only see 4 at home and 5 away, unless you are counting bank holiday games You are indeed correct @Big C , @Never to the dark side the others will be 12pm or 3pm on bank holidays Norwich away Tuesday 16th August 7:45pm Sheffield Wednesday Tuesday 13th September 7:45pm QPR Tuesday 18th October 7:45pm Leeds Utd Tuesday 14th February 7:45pm Preston Tuesday 4th April 7:45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 55 minutes ago, Super said: Sending us to Ipswich on new years eve is ridiculous seems us and Cardiff have the worst fixture. Ipswich V Bristol City 15:00 I have a feeling many of the games from this day will be moved to the Friday evening, otherwise let's hope Gary O'Neil has a big house - we can all celebrate with him and his family. Remember back in 2010 we should have been away to Southampton NYE but got moved to the Friday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, phantom said: I have a feeling many of the games from this day will be moved to the Friday evening, otherwise let's hope Gary O'Neil has a big house - we can all celebrate with him and his family. Remember back in 2010 we should have been away to Southampton NYE but got moved to the Friday night also think QPR at home will be moved from the Saturday to Good Friday over the Easter Weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 If we go back to last season we played Burnley away on Monday 28 December and 300 city fans attended 205 miles we played Preston on tuesday 15 september and 300 fans attended 189 miles we played Huddersfield on a saturday and 1,200 city fans attended I know we had the ten pound offer 203 miles we played sheff wed on a saturday THE boycotted match and 1,200 city fans attended 180 miles The above four teams are similar distances We can't all have a half day off on the day of the match and then the following day off to recover from driving long distances to matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 24 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: If we go back to last season we played Burnley away on Monday 28 December and 300 city fans attended 205 miles we played Preston on tuesday 15 september and 300 fans attended 189 miles we played Huddersfield on a saturday and 1,200 city fans attended I know we had the ten pound offer 203 miles we played sheff wed on a saturday THE boycotted match and 1,200 city fans attended 180 miles The above four teams are similar distances We can't all have a half day off on the day of the match and then the following day off to recover from driving long distances to matches Huddersfield was about 750 away fans wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Pretty fair fixture list from what I've seen and I think the Ipswich game will be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 We travelled one of the lowest midweek miles last year. Our turn to travel more this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm failing to see the problem here because surely that means we have more home fixtures on a Saturday than away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 "We travelled one of the lowest midweek miles last year. Our turn to travel more this season" I don't have a problem with the long distance matches, its the day of the week that I get annoyed about All four London trips and Reading were on Saturday Who remembers going to Chartleton for a mid week fixture and 2,000 went and four hundred were on the train back home ref the Huddersfield comment,I should have aid Bolton Wanderes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 hours ago, phantom said: I have a feeling many of the games from this day will be moved to the Friday evening, otherwise let's hope Gary O'Neil has a big house - we can all celebrate with him and his family. Remember back in 2010 we should have been away to Southampton NYE but got moved to the Friday night I expect Sky might have a say in that. E.g if they want to cover a game itll be moved to Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: Brighton(simlar travelling distances to our selves) have 7 home and five away mid week fixtures Is it too do with us being home 1st and last games? Brighton on the other hand are away 1st and last fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 The long midweek trips actually make a bit of sense (kind of...bear with me) We took 487 to Ipswich last season on a Saturday. Let's say that 50% of potential attendees are so inconvenienced by the fact that it's on a Tuesday that they can't make it. Even though it's a 50% reduction in attendance, less than 250 people miss out. Contrast with a fixture like Reading - we took 3,321 - it would only take 8% of people choosing not to go because it's in a Tuesday for more fans to miss out on the game than in the Ipswich scenario There is always going to be a certain section of fans who can't do any midweek away trips but can do so on weekends, so it kind of makes sense to try and organise it so that the likely lowest attended games are the ones in midweek. Plucking stays out the air here - but say 20% of people who would do an away trip on a Saturday wouldn't do it in midweek (regardless of distance). Doesn't it make sense to choose a fixture where your away attendance will be low rather than high? Using the examples above, you lose c. 100 ticket sales/revenue instead of c. 660. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Villa away will probably be a night game as well being as the Saturday we are due to play them is FA cup 4th round day and I would expect one of us to get through the 3rd round ( probably not us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Doesn't it make sense to choose a fixture where your away attendance will be low rather than high? Using the examples above, you lose c. 100 ticket sales/revenue instead of c. 660. Would say that is spot on for me - personally due to work mid week games are practicallly a no no - no matter where they are, but on the flip side weekend games no matter where they are possible Would assume that most work Monday to Friday - hence why this is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I may have dreamt this but I'm sure I read somewhere that smaller clubs prefer the longer trips midweek as it means they can travel up on the day and save on an overnight stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 54 minutes ago, Big C said: I may have dreamt this but I'm sure I read somewhere that smaller clubs prefer the longer trips midweek as it means they can travel up on the day and save on an overnight stay. Not dreamt @Big C David Cookson, fixtures secretary at the Football League pointed out in 2005: "Supporters need to recognise that some clubs prefer to make long journeys in midweek - it cuts down on their overheads because they don't need to pay for overnight accommodation. The club will travel on the day of the game and head straight home after the match. These requests mean we now have very limited options when we try to minimise travel with supporters in mind. Fans do need to know that we do try and help them as much as we can, but at the end of the day the Football League has to get the fixtures played." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I think the above comment is okay for third and fourth divisions but in the Championship we have a bit more money. David Cookson was the guy at an open football meeting in Crewe in the summer 2007 about compiling the fixture lists The above statement is 11 years old and times and thoughts have changed I recall one of the Saturday Ipswich games the team left on a Thursday for the game on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 35 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: I think the above comment is okay for third and fourth divisions but in the Championship we have a bit more money. David Cookson was the guy at an open football meeting in Crewe in the summer 2007 about compiling the fixture lists The above statement is 11 years old and times and thoughts have changed I recall one of the Saturday Ipswich games the team left on a Thursday for the game on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought we pretty much always left on a Thursday for the further away Saturday games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Anyone else spotted Rotherham away on 10th Sept and Sheff Weds the following Tuesday? Nice few days in the dales if you want to, around my missus`s birthday so I may suggest it to her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Better planing last year when we played Huddersfield on Saturday and Derby on Tuesday night. I did enjoy those few days in Yorkshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Shit happens, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 just hope not,as its another day away from my bed. Why not push the Reading home game to tuesday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: just hope not,as its another day away from my bed. Why not push the Reading home game to tuesday night? You do realise that the fixtures don't revolve around what suits you right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: I thought we pretty much always left on a Thursday for the further away Saturday games. That was something Cotterill brought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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