Jack Dawe Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 No, not the game this week. The 07/08 Wembley finalists, or this 16/17 team (assuming Kodjia stays) - which is better? (In theory. It's the summer, we have time to pointlessly dream about our auntie having testicles and being our uncle. It's either that or more fish puns and arguing about S82 and so on). Or, which ones of Lee's might have improved his dad's and maybe got us over the line? I think Gary might've found room for Tomlin...and a 20 goal striker would've come in handy in 07/08...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 No doubt in my mind the current squad is more individually talented, the 07/08 team was built around a combined team effort and grinding results, I'd rather have our defence of the 07/08 team and Basso, but I'd much rather have the midfield and attacking options of the current team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, hodge said: No doubt in my mind the current squad is more individually talented, the 07/08 team was built around a combined team effort and grinding results, I'd rather have our defence of the 07/08 team and Basso, but I'd much rather have the midfield and attacking options of the current team. Agree with @hodge. Though I wouldn't mind Bradley Orr and Scott Murray in their prime in the midfield and Louis with Flinty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: Agree with @hodge. Though I wouldn't mind Bradley Orr and Scott Murray in their prime in the midfield and Louis with Flinty. Agree Basso, Carey, Orr and Murray in their prime added to our squad would make it an incredible side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 if we had Kodjia in 07-08 we'd have got promotion for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Basso Orr Carey Fontaine McAllister Noble Elliot Carle McIndoe Adebola Trundle vs ROD Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne O'Dowda O'Neil Smith (K) Bryan Tomlin Kodjia Think the current team wins it by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: if we had Kodjia in 07-08 we'd have got promotion for sure. Yep, had we splashed out on a goal scorer like Kodjia instead of Adebola I think we'd have gone up. Adebola was a good player in his own right, and was probably good to have around the team (like Wilbraham) but he was never going to be prolific enough to get us promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: if we had Kodjia in 07-08 we'd have got promotion for sure. doubt it. he would of been about 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yep, had we splashed out on a goal scorer like Kodjia instead of Adebola I think we'd have gone up. Adebola was a good player in his own right, and was probably good to have around the team (like Wilbraham) but he was never going to be prolific enough to get us promoted. I love Dele, he was decent, scored some great goals, will never forget his one against Reading in front of 4500 odd of us, what a day! But yeah, he wasn't the answer, Lansdown kinda screwed up that January, probably should've gambled big then rather than in later seasons. I guess fear of upsetting the team unity may have played a factor in just him and Carle (I think) joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: if we had Kodjia in 07-08 we'd have got promotion for sure. Not sure he'd have done as well at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Kotsy said: Basso Orr Carey Fontaine McAllister Noble Elliot Carle McIndoe Adebola Trundle vs ROD Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne O'Dowda O'Neil Smith (K) Bryan Tomlin Kodjia Think the current team wins it by a country mile. Basso, Orr, Carey and Marv would be good additions to our squad in their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 How did Gary Johnson turn Elliott and Fontaine into near Premiership players for a brief time?! Did we ever find out what caused Fonts to lose his confidence so dramatically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 If we are talking form/ability in that one season then Marv would get in the current midfield. He was immense in 07/08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: I love Dele, he was decent, scored some great goals, will never forget his one against Reading in front of 4500 odd of us, what a day! But yeah, he wasn't the answer, Lansdown kinda screwed up that January, probably should've gambled big then rather than in later seasons. I guess fear of upsetting the team unity may have played a factor in just him and Carle (I think) joining. He singlehandedly destroyed Wolves with his power and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: He singlehandedly destroyed Wolves with his power and determination. It was Tigers we needed destroying, Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, Kotsy said: Basso Orr Carey Fontaine McAllister Noble Elliot Carle McIndoe Adebola Trundle vs ROD Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne O'Dowda O'Neil Smith (K) Bryan Tomlin Kodjia Think the current team wins it by a country mile. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yep, had we splashed out on a goal scorer like Kodjia instead of Adebola I think we'd have gone up. Adebola was a good player in his own right, and was probably good to have around the team (like Wilbraham) but he was never going to be prolific enough to get us promoted. He gave one of the best Striker performances I have seen from a City player against Palace in the play off game at Selhurst. He absolutely battered the CB's. Sadly he was the complete opposite against Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben4BCFC Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Very difficult to tell about Magnusson, O'Dowda and arguably O'Neil, but on the whole I think we're much farther ahead now than we were back then. The only problem is, so is the rest of the division. I'd say Basso and ROD are fairly similar, I'd bench Orr and I don't know enough about Magnusson to say whether I'd rather Carey or not. By the looks of things, probably Magnusson, but our side does need the experience we'd gain from LC. Marv is the Korey of back then, but I think Korey is stronger, even when Marv was at his best. Tomlin the Trundle, and in my mind there's no doubt on who I'd sooner have. Kodjia is a no brainer, as is Flint and Bryan I think. If I'm honest, I think only Basso would be a long term challenger for that team. Marv, Orr and Carey would make it on my bench. Don't think the rest would get close unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 37 minutes ago, hodge said: Agree Basso, Carey, Orr and Murray in their prime added to our squad would make it an incredible side. Just Basso and Murray I reckon. The other two were triers but lacked any real quality. In fact Murrsy got found out at Reading and that suggests he wasn't as good a quality that some people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ben4BCFC said: Very difficult to tell about Magnusson, O'Dowda and arguably O'Neil, but on the whole I think we're much farther ahead now than we were back then. The only problem is, so is the rest of the division. I'd say Basso and ROD are fairly similar, I'd bench Orr and I don't know enough about Magnusson to say whether I'd rather Carey or not. By the looks of things, probably Magnusson, but our side does need the experience we'd gain from LC. Marv is the Korey of back then, but I think Korey is stronger, even when Marv was at his best. Tomlin the Trundle, and in my mind there's no doubt on who I'd sooner have. Kodjia is a no brainer, as is Flint and Bryan I think. If I'm honest, I think only Basso would be a long term challenger for that team. Marv, Orr and Carey would make it on my bench. Don't think the rest would get close unfortunately. O'Donnell isn't fit to lace Basso's boots. Orr is a million miles better than Ayling and Little. Carey and Flint would probably be my partnership at the back with Golbourne at left back. if we had two sitting midfielders i'd have Smith and Marv. 3 in front of them would be Tomlin, Noble and Bryan and Kodjia up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Just Basso and Murray I reckon. The other two were triers but lacked any real quality. In fact Murrsy got found out at Reading and that suggests he wasn't as good a quality that some people think. Murray wasn't in that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Super said: He gave one of the best Striker performances I have seen from a City player against Palace in the play off game at Selhurst. He absolutely battered the CB's. Sadly he was the complete opposite against Hull Yep, like I said, good player in his own right. I just don't think he was the prolific striker we needed at that time. It's simplistic to put it like this as there were obviously lots of other factors however - Hull bring in Fraizer Campbell - promotion. Us - Adebola - no promotion. Sometimes that extra bit of quality and class makes the difference. I really liked Adebola, but felt that was a prime opportunity to bring in a goal scorer, not a targetman who wasn't that prolific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 This is great! Different opinions, and no fish puns or insults. Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I think our team is better now but given that the championship is a much harder division now, I don't think we'll finish 4th. I'd take 5th though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 On paper our current team looks better but on paper the 2012/13 team probably did as well. It's all about getting players with the right character and motivating them to do well. We must hope that LJ has done the former and will do the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I think our team is better now but given that the championship is a much harder division now, I don't think we'll finish 4th. I'd take 5th though Any Barnsley fans browsing, please, feel free to disagree with the suggestion here that this division is "much harder" now. Before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, Super said: Murray wasn't in that team. Technically he was still a squad member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said: On paper our current team looks better but on paper the 2012/13 team probably did as well. It's all about getting players with the right character and motivating them to do well. We must hope that LJ has done the former and will do the latter. We can widen this out to the 12/13 team too, if you like Dan. The best keeper of the three, for sure. Albert would figure too. Skuse?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 How about a mash up of the two teams Basso Orr Flint Carey McAllister Smith K Bryan O'Neil Tomlin Kodjia Adebola I like that team a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can we oldies widen the discussion to include the last team to get us into the top division? Cashley Sweeney Drysdale Merrick Rodgers Tainton Mann Gow Whitehead Ritchie Cheesley I am getting shivers down my spine just thinking about that team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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