Never to the dark side Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37976381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Car crash of a club, prime example of another foreign owner destroying a club & it's tradition. I'm not a huge fan of Slade as a manager but the last thing they needed to do was to get rid of yet another manager, he could of brought them much needed stability given the chance but once again a manager is given no time at all to try & sort out the mess that he has been left to deal with!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Madness, they must be close to double figures in terms of number of managers in the last three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Job for Cotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Suicide club on some levels, appreciate to some a job is a job but if you don't get the success straight away you won't last very long.. Is it worth the gamble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, WWred said: Suicide club on some levels, appreciate to some a job is a job but if you don't get the success straight away you won't last very long.. Is it worth the gamble? Get paid 2.5 years worth of contact for likely only 5-6 months work. I'd take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Selred said: Get paid 2.5 years worth of contact for likely only 5-6 months work. I'd take it. From a financial perspective absolutely, it's free money. But getting the sack isn't exactly a reputation enhancer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 37 minutes ago, WWred said: Suicide club on some levels, appreciate to some a job is a job but if you don't get the success straight away you won't last very long.. Is it worth the gamble? The thing is, getting a job as a football manager is a difficult task, when you take into account the amount of managers out of work & that will apply for any available managers job & the amount of foreign managers that are in our game now & via for those same positions. So if you get offered a job, you take it unless you're already at a club & then you have to weigh up your options. And it's one of the few jobs where you can get financially rewarded for failure, so if you can get a multi-year contract, you're laughing all the way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 37 minutes ago, WWred said: From a financial perspective absolutely, it's free money. But getting the sack isn't exactly a reputation enhancer.. True, however most clubs I don't feel will judge Slade on his Charlton reputation. They will know it is a hard job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 44 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: The thing is, getting a job as a football manager is a difficult task, when you take into account the amount of managers out of work & that will apply for any available managers job & the amount of foreign managers that are in our game now & via for those same positions. So if you get offered a job, you take it unless you're already at a club & then you have to weigh up your options. And it's one of the few jobs where you can get financially rewarded for failure, so if you can get a multi-year contract, you're laughing all the way to the bank. 15 minutes ago, Selred said: True, however most clubs I don't feel will judge Slade on his Charlton reputation. They will know it is a hard job. Do you think managers take these kind of jobs knowing they're most likely going to fail? Or do you think they take them with the genuine belief that they can turn the club around? Difficult one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Merry Xmas Slade, look to the future now, it's only just begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 31 minutes ago, WWred said: Do you think managers take these kind of jobs knowing they're most likely going to fail? Or do you think they take them with the genuine belief that they can turn the club around? Difficult one! Hard to say, am I right in saying that Slade walked away from Cardiff before he was sacked? Or was he sacked & then took the Cardiff job? Maybe Charlton took him on knowing that he'd already worked with a car crash club? Sooner or later these clubs will run out of viable options as no one will touch them but I guess that's why they have to offer longer contracts than they are expected to last because then such managers know they will get their pay-off. But the advantage that the likes of Slade & Warnock have is that they are towards the end of their careers so any pay off could be their last so they don't have to worry about people looking at their CV's & judging them on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Hard to say, am I right in saying that Slade walked away from Cardiff before he was sacked? Or was he sacked & then took the Cardiff job? Maybe Charlton took him on knowing that he'd already worked with a car crash club? Sooner or later these clubs will run out of viable options as no one will touch them but I guess that's why they have to offer longer contracts than they are expected to last because then such managers know they will get their pay-off. But the advantage that the likes of Slade & Warnock have is that they are towards the end of their careers so any pay off could be their last so they don't have to worry about people looking at their CV's & judging them on that. Good point at the end there, makes you feel sorry for the fans of these clubs mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, WWred said: Good point at the end there, makes you feel sorry for the fans of these clubs mind... The trouble is that all fans want more from their club & the majority are never happy so I expect when there was talk of all this foreign investment coming into the likes of Charlton, Leeds, Cardiff, Blackburn, Wolves, Birmingham & Aston Villa etc all their fans believed they had an Abramovich on their hands & millions would be spent & trophies would be won & their investors wouldn't expect a penny back!! Unfortunately in the real world, you don't get anything for nothing & all these fans are now wishing for normality once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Tipps69 said: Car crash of a club, prime example of another foreign owner destroying a club & it's tradition. I'm not a huge fan of Slade as a manager but the last thing they needed to do was to get rid of yet another manager, he could of brought them much needed stability given the chance but once again a manager is given no time at all to try & sort out the mess that he has been left to deal with!! In 2004 Charlton were 4th in the premier league and got rid of Curbishley because the fans weren't happy and wanted someone to take them "to the next level" as they didn't think that Curbishley was capable. That's when their demise started, although it has been compounded by current ownership. Bet they didn't think the next level was where they are now though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky89 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Slade must have a shocking agent! Cardiff and Charlton as his last two jobs . . . . crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, WWred said: Do you think managers take these kind of jobs knowing they're most likely going to fail? Or do you think they take them with the genuine belief that they can turn the club around? Difficult one! I doubt any of them think that they can't do a better job than the previous incumbent but I'm sure most managers know that it's not a job for life ( unless you're Arsène Wenger ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I doubt any of them think that they can't do a better job than the previous incumbent but I'm sure most managers know that it's not a job for life ( unless you're Arsène Wenger ) . Ruthless industry these days to be fair, unless you're Arsene Wenger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 56 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Hard to say, am I right in saying that Slade walked away from Cardiff before he was sacked? Or was he sacked & then took the Cardiff job? Maybe Charlton took him on knowing that he'd already worked with a car crash club? Sooner or later these clubs will run out of viable options as no one will touch them but I guess that's why they have to offer longer contracts than they are expected to last because then such managers know they will get their pay-off. But the advantage that the likes of Slade & Warnock have is that they are towards the end of their careers so any pay off could be their last so they don't have to worry about people looking at their CV's & judging them on that. There will always be more potential managers than professional football clubs so there will never be a problem finding one for a basket case owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Selred said: Get paid 2.5 years worth of contact for likely only 5-6 months work. I'd take it. Depends on the terms of the contract surely? If there are success clauses in it they might well get sacked with no payoff. Can't imagine any club would have a 3 year financial noose around their neck when the average manager seems to last about 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Didn't Charlton only lose 4 games under his management?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Clarky89 said: Slade must have a shocking agent! Cardiff and Charlton as his last two jobs . . . . crazy. His agent must specialise in fires and frying pans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, alexukhc said: Job for Cotts I would hope not for the reasons already mentioned. I appreciate he isn't our boss anymore but I don't want to see his reputation sullied by going there and losing his job before he had a chance to do his 'thing'. Personally, I think he would be perfect for MK TBH. Jimmy Floyd would be my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 hours ago, sglosbcfc said: Madness, they must be close to double figures in terms of number of managers in the last three seasons. 6 managers in the last 2 & a half years according to Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 hours ago, 8menhadadream said: I would hope not for the reasons already mentioned. I appreciate he isn't our boss anymore but I don't want to see his reputation sullied by going there and losing his job before he had a chance to do his 'thing'. Personally, I think he would be perfect for MK TBH. Jimmy Floyd would be my bet. Good call for Jimmy that!! sadly I think Cotts is waiting for the gash job tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 14 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37976381 NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Surprised at that. Slade regularly move up the charts in the approach to Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 12 hours ago, alexukhc said: Job for Cotts Owners won't be able to tolerate him. Would most likely be an instant clash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Nicky Morgan's Organ said: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No? Anything in that link to prompt your reaction? I can't see anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 14 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No? Anything in that link to prompt your reaction? I can't see anything! It is the fact that Russell Slade has been sacked. I don't like people being sacked. It is unkind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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