Lack of Action Man Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, hodge said: If you sack your manager and can't get a first choice replacement you may end up with someone less ideal than who you started with. Iain Dowie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Suggesting names just for the sake of it. Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Thatwasclose said: Give Pemberton the job As angry as I am getting, as are many others, I can not see SL pulling the trigger a month after a contract extension. Nevertheless, things have to change very very fast as SL Will Not risk our status. If SL was to sign the warrant, Pembo will be in the frame and I suspect would be off asap if ignored. I hope LJ can turn this around but, I have my doubts now, which SL is bound to be getting. It is just starting to feel like McInnes all over again and I didn't like the end of that movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Bring Cotts back he was so underservedly sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 24 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Whom would you ideally wish to replace him?? Anyone who can do the simple task of stopping a defence haemorrhaging goals on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutstandingMixer Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I feel like LJ is like a mixture of McInnes/SOD. Talks a good game like SOD did, and is chopping and changing like McInnes did. A recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 58 minutes ago, tinman85 said: Totally. Fed up with this happy clappy mentality towards him. Shocking player and shocking manager. Sack him. Idiot...shocking player hardly a fantastic servant to this club who was totally committed and no way shocking. my take on it is no way should he be sacked yes I acknowledge the form is not great but still think we will be comfortably mid table we just need a couple of results and our squad is superior to this time last year when cotterill looked like he was taking us down. coupled with this there will easily be 3 teams who go down wigan Rotherham burton Blackburn and qpr will battle for that accolade. next month is very important however we need a proven striker, central midfielder and two full backs ideally, we can't keep chopping and changing this is sadly symptomatic of football these days. Even sir Alex had dreadful times. no panic here Lj in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, tinman85 said: Totally. Fed up with this happy clappy mentality towards him. Shocking player and shocking manager. Sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 28 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Should be given until mid January IMO like Cotterill Here is my team for Ipswich FF AM AF HM JB LF JBR GON LT TA GE IMO we have to try Gus for a game to see if he's good enough Reid needs time out and apparently Brownhill did alright today but I think 442 is the way to go! O'Neill is out for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Clevedon Red said: O'Neill is out for a few weeks. Really? Well in that case Pack for O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin in Qatar Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Don't sack LJ. At least until we drop into the bottom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Really? Well in that case Pack for O'Neill Up to 2 weeks I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Agree Rowett would be the pick if the axe were to fall.....Just can't see SL can bring himself to sign the warrant... Fair question, for me - Cotterill and back him this time... or Pardew... would he come? Justin Edinburgh neil Ardley or even someone like Phil Brown. Heard his interview - he sounds shot, LJ, I'm not a fan but he seems like he's struggling..... feel sorry and he's been dumped in at too high a level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 The fact this thread is up indicates it's just starting to turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just had a quick look, obviously Rowett stands out as the obvious candidate, but as a back up option Nigel Adkins? Yes his last job was in League 1 but seems like he was trying to do with Sheffield Utd the same as Southampton. Personally don't want LJ gone, but looking at potential replacements there aren't many out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Dynamite Red said: Our form is very concerning, he won't be going anywhere. I just hope we have a blinder of a January in the window. would you trust him with your money?patterson odowda brownhill all league one players too many much of a muchness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: would you trust him with your money?patterson odowda brownhill all league one players too many much of a muchness Ffs this is so damn boring. Mark Ashton negotiates the transfers and amounts, the club has a database of players in each position built by the DoF, Head Scout and scouting network so that we aren't to reliant upon one manager building a team in his own image. And since the summer we also have Bournemouth's scout in to help identify targets. So yes, I would trust the team who work in conjunction with a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick jones of hereford Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: like to hear comments from those that were at the game... sounded like we could have won but wasted too many chances (once again). I'm not a LJ fan, but cannnot seriously see him being dismissed. Just have to hope some new faces in Jan will make the difference, much like the arrival of Tomlin & Matthews did last season. We were at the game. Too many players trying to play the ball in the midfield in the first half. We were being pressed and because we had no width we were forced to pass short or lose the ball. We kept losing the ball constantly up to us scoring. Seemed to be no structure brining the ball forward and attempted to counter attack with one man up front and no wingers (Tomlin useless in a counter attack). To sum up the best characteristics were the spirit of the players but the main weakness was the inability for Johnston to change tactics (however we may get better at this is the long run). Lee is a great tactician and no one on this forum are football managers, however opinionated we may be we need to give him time good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Here's my take. Would I sack LJ now? Hmmmm. I'd certainly be considering it, that is unless I wanted to save face because I'd just had him sign a contract extension. It was a risky appointment. They say you shouldn't mix business with pleasure and SL appointing a family friend as manager is not looking the wisest of moves right now. The only reason that axe isn't hovering is because SL is good mates with LJ & GJ, which in itself is silliness. No other manager would have been afforded the same grace that LJ is - and is that right? I hope it proves to be! Ordinarily a manager would be seeking a vote of confidence... LJ doesn't need one... and that's both incredibly risky and incredibly refreshing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Here's my take. Would I sack LJ now? Hmmmm. I'd certainly be considering it, that is unless I wanted to save face because I'd just had him sign a contract extension. It was a risky appointment. They say you shouldn't mix business with pleasure and SL appointing a family friend as manager is not looking the wisest of moves right now. The only reason that axe isn't hovering is because SL is good mates with LJ & GJ, which in itself is silliness. No other manager would have been afforded the same grace that LJ is - and is that right? I hope it proves to be! Ordinarily a manager would be seeking a vote of confidence... LJ doesn't need one... and that's both incredibly risky and incredibly refreshing! Agree largely. But I think the axe is hovering and he has four games to turn something around. I think SL would have afforded any manager the same grace as LJ until now, but relegation is unthinkable as is a dogfight at the bottom. Votes of confidence are not worth a thing, it pretty much is a vote of, start winning or you're gone soon, if we don't think someone is gently putting this across already we would be nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, nick jones of hereford said: We were at the game. Too many players trying to play the ball in the midfield in the first half. We were being pressed and because we had no width we were forced to pass short or lose the ball. We kept losing the ball constantly up to us scoring. Seemed to be no structure brining the ball forward and attempted to counter attack with one man up front and no wingers (Tomlin useless in a counter attack). To sum up the best characteristics were the spirit of the players but the main weakness was the inability for Johnston to change tactics (however we may get better at this is the long run). Lee is a great tactician and no one on this forum are football managers, however opinionated we may be we need to give him time good or bad. Could be the story after virtually every game No Width No Width No width Trying to pass our way through the centre of the pitch We have nowhere near a squad / team capable ATM of playing this way IMHO Personally this method , with this squad , is as flawed , if not more than Cotts and his 3-5-2 Players and fans totally confused with constant tinkering and the growing realisation that LJ has no more clear idea than us fans on what to do next How many players are 'nailed on starters' for the next , say 5 games .................... Id suggest ONE (IMHO TA) .... says everything really We are a mess again atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc@downend Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, shelts said: Bring Cotts back he was so underservedly sacked Apparently he was wasn't sacked .... But put on gardening leave, must have finished the bl@@dy pruning by now !!!!! Get him back ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 18 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Could be the story after virtually every game No Width No Width No width Trying to pass our way through the centre of the pitch We have nowhere near a squad / team capable ATM of playing this way IMHO Personally this method , with this squad , is as flawed , if not more than Cotts and his 3-5-2 Players and fans totally confused with constant tinkering and the growing realisation that LJ has no more clear idea than us fans on what to do next How many players are 'nailed on starters' for the next , say 5 games .................... Id suggest ONE (IMHO TA) .... says everything really We are a mess again atm Yes I can not help but agree largely! Bryan at LB and people writing we have no wingers of course we bloody do LJ just does not play them. Odowda is itching for a game but can not get on the pitch or most weeks even on the bench. Browning was a bright spot today, but how long will Tomlin put up with this shit before he throws another tantrum (many would say with justification).... We are a mess right now and SL will know it too, he is not blind! We need four players all of them starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Shtanley said: Get a grip please, acknowledge where we were last season and the fact that we are relying on a 19 year old who's never played men's football before. Not saying LJ is doing a great job but we know this isn't a permanent level of performance. And who's fault is it that we are relying on a 19 year old up top,spent 2 million+ on another young striker that can't get a look in and wilbs. Think we all agree his permanent signings have been shocking,can we afford another transfer window with him in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I'm wavering now for the first time. But let's take form out of the equation for a second. Currently we're in a higher position than we finished last season and we remain a relatively healthy 7 points clear of the drop. If the season ended now, that's actually marginal progress. This team has proven itself capable of winning games at this level, and therefore so has Johnson, to an admittedly limited extent. It doesn't feel to me like we've reached the "do or die" point we did with Cotterill last season. He has also shown at Barnsley that he is capable of turning around a bad run. My concern grows with every defeat, but on balance I still come to the conclusion every time that he should stay...for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: Comes to something when the extent of our ambition is to be less shit than three/four other teams. You sir win post of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Bs4Red said: I'd sack you, boring**** Tonight's best so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Whatever you think of LJ, I'd imagine he's here to stay for a while. SL is a big fan it would seem, as the contract extension suggests. LJ, I think will be given his 3 transfer windows to prove himself. I pray he hasn't caused too much damage by that point. I hope Lee succeeds but he could turn out to be SL's costliest mistake to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcityfan Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I am not sure why so people think adding a few signings next month will change the team overnight and reverse the current form. It is how the team is motivated and managed to play together as a force that makes the results. Its a pretty good team on paper and individually there are some very good players. There were also some rising young stars too who seem to have lost their ascendency recently, some don't get a game. But what is most concerning is hearing the manager saying the same thing about new signings changing everything! He said it today during the post match interview (again), a few new faces etc and the fine margins will change, but is it is a clutching of straws? So in January a couple/few? new signings come in maybe with magic boots and we thump Newcastle 5-0, and cruise a wembley play off final.... But seriously if the slide continues after these signings (if they happen) really it is time for a new team boss. I hope not, I hope he is right and he should be given this chance to prove the doubters wrong. But if it fails he should go then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Mendip City said: Rowett? Those se players aren't bad... his just messed around and tinkered so much that they have no confidence or clue what they're doing. Yeah, I bet he would do the job for next to nothing and crawl on his hands and knees to be our manager. The whole football world said it was a disgrace how he got the sack at Brum, so he might just have a few more options than you think. How long would you give HIM btw? He did start to lose a few games quite badly come the end and the football was by all accounts pretty crude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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