RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just been watching this guy on Goals on Sunday. Out of work, did a half-decent job at a basket case club (QPR), did a great job at Burton. Played at the highest level, still young, but with a few seasons' experience under his belt. Spoke about how he was looking to get straight back into work, keen to take on a '3-4 year project' (hate that word but it's the buzzword at the Gate at the moment), wanted to build something lasting and sustainable at QPR but was cut short. I've been in the 'Johnson Out' camp since the Reading home game, though I hoped the 3 new signings might lift us. Yesterday was the final straw. Surely Hasselbaink is the kind of guy we should be looking at? He seems like a realistic option to me, and he has the tools here to build something, with a better owner, and good players. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 minute ago, BigTone said: No thanks Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 How big a brown envelope do you have? We've just got rid of one that likes those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, RedJim said: Why not? What has he achieved as a manager ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, spudski said: How big a brown envelope do you have? We've just got rid of one that likes those. I've lost you there mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 minute ago, BigTone said: What has he achieved as a manager ? Stated in my original post. Promotion with Burton, solid job at QPR (a notoriously volatile club with an erratic owner). More than Lee Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 I think he could play well up front with tammy but as manger no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 minute ago, billywedlock said: Was someone I thought of to replace SC. Met him a few times and know the guys at Burton. Top guy. But maybe right now, we need some experience, because we have so many new faces, so many players, it is a bigger muddle to sort. Like that he achieved real success at the lower leagues though, coached before going to management and shows he understands how to create a winning side too. Sure he will go onto a good career. He inherited a basket case at QPR , that even Holloway is struggling to get shaped up with all his experience. Completely agree. Though I would suggest his experience at Burton (where he actually achieved something) and managing a tricky club in QPR means he would be ready for the job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, RedJim said: Stated in my original post. Promotion with Burton, solid job at QPR (a notoriously volatile club with an erratic owner). More than Lee Johnson. You said he did a "half decent" job at QPR. Sorry but he just doesn't float my boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Not sure how much of a loose cannon he might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Ryan Giggs. I know it's a long shot but out of work and has had the opportunity to manage possibly the biggest club in the U.K. Worked with top name managers and would probably only look at Prem teams but everyone needs a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Right now? Probably not. In the long term, assuming that Spudski's issues are resolved, possibly. If not resolved, then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, BigTone said: You said he did a "half decent" job at QPR. Sorry but he just doesn't float my boat. Fair enough. I think keeping QPR stable in midtable is something we'd settle for here at the moment. He would have more to work with here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, RedorDead BCFC said: Ryan Giggs. I know it's a long shot but out of work and has had the opportunity to manage possibly the biggest club in the U.K. Worked with top name managers and would probably only look at Prem teams but everyone needs a start. Total gamble. No Championship experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, spudski said: How big a brown envelope do you have? We've just got rid of one that likes those. Is that an insinuation re Steve Cotterill ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, billywedlock said: The result of the accusations demonstrated what ? What sanctions were taken against him? You are better than that Spud. You are right mate...but I watched the Interview, whether he's been set up or not...I didn't like what I saw or heard in his reactions. Plus...as you know, you hear things. No smoke without fire...He maybe a nice bloke, as are many managers. As an example...I've met Big Sam on many an occasion, lovely bloke, but would I trust him with a football Club I owned? Not a cat in hells chance. Football is rife with it...managers, coach's, Agents, players, even scouts...it's been like it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Some of these suggestions are just beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Total gamble. No Championship experience. Would be, but I can bet Crapdiff will be looking at him come the summer when Warnock's deal is finished. I mentioned Monk this time last year and others said it's a gamble and that he only had the Swansea job by luck etc. Not doing to bad that gamble at the basket case of Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 The Telegraph were completely unable to substantiate anything against JFH to be fair to him, so harsh to hold that over him. And if allegations such as the type levelled at him prohibited footballers and coaches from working, their wouldn't be many left in the game. Did a solid job in a decent scenario at Burton, and stabilised QPR last year - when you compare his and LJ's records at this level (which are identical with 47 games right now) they've similar records, and though LJ has won more matches, JFH lost notable fewer. Still; the Championship experience of other options, including Rowett and Powell, would be more appealing to me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 JFH - God no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin-op Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 My QPR mate stopped going with him in charge! No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 45 minutes ago, P'head Red said: Some of these suggestions are just beyond ridiculous. Why is it a ridiculous suggestion? Holloway would be a ridiculous suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, RedJim said: Why is it a ridiculous suggestion? Holloway would be a ridiculous suggestion. Because for the people who want LJ out , they want him replaced with someone who has experience in this league. Not someone who has played the same amount of games with a worse record at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Are we saying that Cotts liked a little bung.....cant say ive ever heard of that before. Anyone else apart from Spud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, shelts said: Are we saying that Cotts liked a little bung.....cant say ive ever heard of that before. Anyone else apart from Spud? Rumours that SL suspected something in the summer window last season, so cut off the money supply. all alleged. Other Posters referred to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Rumours that SL suspected something in the summer window last season, so cut off the money supply. Wow. I thought id heard most of the rumours etc but never this one. Pretty sure they is all at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, shelts said: Wow. I thought id heard most of the rumours etc but never this one. Pretty sure they is all at it A couple of posters referenced it very subtly last season. I have no idea what so ever wether it's true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoons said: I think he could play well up front with tammy but as manger no thanks. Jesus christ........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 JFH at QPR was exactly like SC when we were I'm the Championship; he played a rigid formation and whilst those tactics had served him well at Burton in Div 3, as they served SC well for us in Div 3, they were found out in the Championship and like SC HD just kept doing the same thing and losing. If we were in Div 3 I would happily take JFH (or SC, though I couldn't see him coming back) but neither of them have been able to cut it in the Championship. As for Ryan Giggs, well you have got to be joking. If we want someone inexperienced well why not Judge Finder? Equally stupid suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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