Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I see what Lee Johnson has done here. If there's one way to guarantee the support of City fans, it's to have Hollowhead on your case. Perhaps he should stick to signing Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Hardly suggests he 'hates' our Head Coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 You gotta laugh mind babbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 First the Post overstates it then you; I doubt very much the idea of hate enters his head. Frustration for sure but not hate. That is football. No story here. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 He might have a point but wev'e got more important things on our plate than the utterances of that dullard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Oh good we've blown our chance to get a sub standard player off the wage bill. Well done to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Hardly suggests he 'hates' our Head Coach... **** me it's irony mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, havanatopia said: First the Post overstates it then you; I doubt very much the idea of hate enters his head. Frustration for sure but not hate. That is football. No story here. Move along. Jesus H Christ does anyone understand ******* irony it ain't ******* difficult FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: **** me it's irony mate. Desperate backtrack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, BS4 on Tour... said: Desperate backtrack.... Don't be a **** FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Jesus H Christ does anyone understand ******* irony it ain't ******* difficult FFS. Irony is used to usually convey the opposite of what one says and I do not think for one moment that Ian Holloway loves Lee Johnson or Bristol City. Perhaps you meant sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, bpexile said: For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? He's right. Of course he is. But like father like son the mess around with the careers of players who exercise heir right to let their contract run down. Orr, Basso, Freeman... not committed, not part of "the group" according to the Johnsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Irony is used to usually convey the opposite of what one says and I do not think for one moment that Ian Holloway loves Bristol City. Perhaps you meant sarcasm? No definitely irony teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said: No definitely irony teacher. OK well in that case I respect your opinion that Ian Holloway might love Lee Johnson. Perhaps you would respect mine by not mouthing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Don't be a **** FFS. No need for that, we're all on the same side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, havanatopia said: OK well in that case I respect your opinion that Ian Holloway might love Lee Johnson. Perhaps you would respect mine by not mouthing off. 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No need for that, we're all on the same side... it's called defending oneself from inaccuracies about an obvious ironic post (well ironic to most people) and coming at the end of another tense day in the life of BCFC. Goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, Olé said: I see what Lee Johnson has done here. If there's one way to guarantee the support of City fans, it's to have Hollowhead on your case. Perhaps he should stick to signing Neymar. what's wrong with Messi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Popodopolous Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, reddoh said: what's wrong with Messi? No sell on value you know...:whistles: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Freeman is useless in the Championship and regularly gets played by LJ. Take the money and move him to Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, shelts said: Freeman is useless in the Championship and regularly gets played by LJ. Take the money and move him to Olly Disagree. And bollocks to 'Olly'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: it's called defending oneself from inaccuracies about an obvious ironic post (well ironic to most people) and coming at the end of another tense day in the life of BCFC. Goodnight. Sadly because most people don't get irony and so when a correct interpretation is made of a remark, as I did, some people get mouthy or get into a strop. At the very least I appreciate exactly why you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, NickJ said: The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Seems like a reasonable assessment assuming Freeman had not fallen out with his boss. And if that were the case such fallings out are becoming rather expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, bpexile said: For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? It's OK, I'm sure you can join in with the thousands who applaud him at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Sadly because most people don't get irony and so when a correct interpretation is made of a remark, as I did, some people get mouthy or get into a strop. At the very least I appreciate exactly why you did. Not in your original reply you didn't, you attempted to pooh pooh me (that's sarcasm by the way) Which is (and note the word irony):- sarcasm ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/ noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Do you think this is a unilateral decision by LJ or that MA and SL agree with this approach? Remember that player recruitment and contracts are not all LJ's responsibility - maybe MA and SL agree that this approach is better to try and get players to commit before the transfer deadline closes. Similar to the Mickey Naynard situation - sign or get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Not in your original reply you didn't, you attempted to pooh pooh me (that's sarcasm by the way) Which is (and note the word irony):- sarcasm ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/ noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. No I was not being sarcastic, at all. I was plainly disagreeing with you because I did not read your original post, correctly, as irony. To be clear according to the Oxford English Dictionary:- IRONY:- The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect: ‘‘Don't go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony’ Like I said.. most people, truthfully, get irony wrong certainly on this forum and I am sure I have made that error in my lifetime, quite easy to do. If you are sticking with your line that you wrote irony then you misinterpreted its meaning. Not trying to put you down but since you mouthed off about it I am compelled to at least try and point this out. Clearly you meant irony i know that much. Now get to bed mate, its past your bed time.. i think that is sarcasm or maybe patronising crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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