ColneRed Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Sorry if this has been covered before but just interested to know what the story behind Ayling's departure to Leeds was. He's obviously doing well and enjoying life at the other end of the table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, ColneRed said: Sorry if this has been covered before but just interested to know what the story behind Ayling's departure to Leeds was. He's obviously doing well and enjoying life at the other end of the table! We didn't expect Matthews to come back 1/5th of the player he was last season, out of any of the 'mistakes' this season then that's one that I don't blame LJ for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I do wonder if the Cheltenham antics were part of the reason for him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I'm sure there is a bigger picture of the whole thing but LJ said the same helped us in regards to FFP and said it may have helped get other business done. Basically, the way I'm interpreting it is, Ayling had a year left on his contract just like our other back up RB(Little both back up to Matthews). We received a better offer for Ayling than we would've Little. Maybe Ayling on higher wages as well? Think it mostly came down to fee though for a player we thought would be second choice. Hasn't worked out that way and he's upped his game under Garry Monk. Maybe Cheltenham played a part. Maybe he didn't want to resign with us. Idk all of the detail but I imagine it was mostly financial benefits for a player with a year left on his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartockRed Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: I do wonder if the Cheltenham antics were part of the reason for him leaving. I think this could have been a major factor. Im in amongst a lot of Yeovil fans where I live, and I've heard he wasn't the most mature of characters whilst at Huish Park, and although he wasn't the main culprit, they weren't surprised at all to hear he was involved in that Cheltenham incident. I know Matthews was likely to be first choice RB, but with Taylor Moore not ready, and Ekstrand a gamble on his sick note history, Ayling was the only one who could play in a back 3, or even fill in at centre half. Certainly a better option than Matthews regarding the Reading home game. I'd have thought LJ would've wanted to keep hold of him. Half decent money came in, and it was done and dusted very quickly, so maybe an ulterior motive behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, MartockRed said: I think this could have been a major factor. Im in amongst a lot of Yeovil fans where I live, and I've heard he wasn't the most mature of characters whilst at Huish Park, and although he wasn't the main culprit, they weren't surprised at all to hear he was involved in that Cheltenham incident. I know Matthews was likely to be first choice RB, but with Taylor Moore not ready, and Ekstrand a gamble on his sick note history, Ayling was the only one who could play in a back 3, or even fill in at centre half. Certainly a better option than Matthews regarding the Reading home game. I'd have thought LJ would've wanted to keep hold of him. Half decent money came in, and it was done and dusted very quickly, so maybe an ulterior motive behind it. He was a dead man walking the moment it all came out. Not so much LJ's decision.....came from the very top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 We have for many years had a rank amateur history of letting players run down their contract and leave for free, or offload them for peanuts in a fire sale in the preceding January. Just recently we have managed to raise fees for players still in contract. Why do we have to suspect foul play and hidden motive? Could it just be business? Other clubs sell players all the time. Have they each been doing the chairman's daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Lets face it we stood up for Orr, Brooker & Partridge for what they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Agreed. Solid ball playing right back. Many complained about his defensive qualities but he would absolutely walk into our side now. Our loss, Leeds' gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, BigTone said: It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Lets face it we stood up for Orr, Brooker & Partridge for what they did Not Partridge we didn't, we quietly moved him out of the exit door, he never played for us post prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 If the man bankrolling the club wants you out, you're going out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, BigTone said: It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Lets face it we stood up for Orr, Brooker & Partridge for what they did I suspect if he'd been viewed as a key player then the Cheltenham incident wouldn't have come into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 48 minutes ago, BigTone said: It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Lets face it we stood up for Orr, Brooker & Partridge for what they did I'd hate to think how social media would've reacted back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Griffin said: We didn't expect Matthews to come back 1/5th of the player he was last season, out of any of the 'mistakes' this season then that's one that I don't blame LJ for. I did, he was crap last season. He's not even came back 1/5th of the player, he's been exactly the same. It's only because we were doing well last season and because of the "feel good" factor that there was a false perception he was amazing. It could've been Nicky Hunt on loan and our fans would've waxed lyrical over him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, BigTone said: It was a blunder of major proportions to let him go regardless of his indiscretions at Cheltenham. Lets face it we stood up for Orr, Brooker & Partridge for what they did Indeed.... and as a team we've been seriously 'ailing' pretty much ever since. We've been virtually comatose for long enough, its time for us to get up off the sickbed now and recover pretty damn quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, deadredfred said: Agreed. Solid ball playing right back. Many complained about his defensive qualities but he would absolutely walk into our side now. Per the "stats" (and I'm not sure I believe the ones that say we create the 3rd most chances in the Championship), Luke Ayling is the second best tackler in the whole division: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aller g Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, alexukhc said: I'd hate to think how social media would've reacted back then I got the sack over it being on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Nobody thought he was good enough at right back. Good to hear people have changed their minds with hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Nobody thought he was good enough at right back. Good to hear people have changed their minds with hindsight He wasn't good enough if we were seriously pushing for the Prem. but we replaced him with worse. No hindsight here, just cold hard reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyboy Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 8 hours ago, super slick said: He was a dead man walking the moment it all came out. Not so much LJ's decision.....came from the very top! And you know that how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Olé said: Per the "stats" (and I'm not sure I believe the ones that say we create the 3rd most chances in the Championship), Luke Ayling is the second best tackler in the whole division: I see another ex City There to . It's actually good that we sell players ' intelligently ' . No one gets it right everytime and who's to say they would be performing equally as well with us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 hours ago, RedDave said: Nobody thought he was good enough at right back. Good to hear people have changed their minds with hindsight Think most thought he was far better than Little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddBallJim Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: I did, he was crap last season. He's not even came back 1/5th of the player, he's been exactly the same. It's only because we were doing well last season and because of the "feel good" factor that there was a false perception he was amazing. It could've been Nicky Hunt on loan and our fans would've waxed lyrical over him.. Spot on, never been overly impressed by Matthews in a City shirt. A player who flatters to deceive if ever I saw one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, aller g said: I got the sack over it being on social media. Oh.... not as big as social media as it is now tho is it, whatever did you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, RumRed said: He wasn't good enough if we were seriously pushing for the Prem. but we replaced him with worse. No hindsight here, just cold hard reality. Other than he now plays for promotion pushers I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Nice player going forward. Couldn't defend for toffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 One of those decisions that looks terrible in hindsight but made sense at the time. If money had been offered for Mark Little then he'd have gone instead but nobody offered that. Instead good money was offered for a player who wasn't seen as likely to be first choice and pretty much any club in the world would have to at least consider selling in that position. I do agree that Matthews wasn't that good last season in the games that I saw, but Johnson must have believed that he has more to offer and that he could get him to produce it. That's not proved to be the case but football managers have to have to confidence that they can make players perform or there's no point in doing the job. If he fails at it on a consistent basis then he's unlikely to be a successful manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Players come and go ..... time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Super said: Think most thought he was far better than Little. But not better than Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: But not better than Matthews Matthews from last season I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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