Son of Fred Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, Monkeh said: replace flint with maggers and I'd take that Replace Wright please...Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Your starting early today??..Good effort! Am I missing the joke somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, ooRya said: Am I missing the joke somewhere? drinking, he's thinks you are pissed because you said we'll get 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Wright has been quality surely? He brings the Wright stuff to the side, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: He brings the Wright stuff to the side, that's for sure. I think you're wright there .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Giefer Matthews - Flint - Wright - Golbourne Cotterill - Brownhill - Hegeler - Bryan Djuric - Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Provided Tomlin can put a really good shift in I'd go for the OP line up, although tbh have my doubts as Tomlin is so inconsistent. I like the look of this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Understand the changing of players (in moderation) but don't want to see anymore messing around with the starting formation 4-4-2 for me or ok 4-4-1-1 in tough away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, Slippin cider said: I think you're wright there .... I can confirm that I am not Wright. Wish I was on the money he is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossendale Red Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Provided Tomlin can put a really good shift in I'd go for the OP line up, although tbh have my doubts as Tomlin is so inconsistent. Possibly only change to this for me would be GON (if fit) in for Hegeler...not a reflection on him as I do think he is a very good player but would like us to play a high tempo tonight. Not sure Hegeler and GON would work together and I like Brownhill's energy. Hopefully Tommo is on it tonight to link up with Taylor and Cotts and JB can get some good deliveries into Djuric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkedarm wall Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, xerox6060 said: Understand the changing of players (in moderation) but don't want to see anymore messing around with the starting formation 4-4-2 for me or ok 4-4-1-1 in tough away games. I tend to agree and 4-4-2 is something that players apparently understand the best. The trouble is with our squad, 4-4-2 means the likes of Vyner, Matthews,Goldbourne, Little (when fit) have to play in some guise and it means a 'left back' (ish) in Bryan playing left midfield, are they good enough? Also means Mags can't get in. We have Tomlin, Paterson, Reid who prefer to play 'in the hole', so it rules them out as well. So in my opinion the best use of our squad is 3-4-3 and to get our best players playing and having to use any of our full backs! gif / fileding wright flint Mags Cotts heg/o neill brownhill/pack bryan tomlin/Reid/Paterson Djuric/ Wilbs Tammy/ Taylor Whether our better players are good enough remains to be seen and if the recruitment and tactics are good enough. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, South Bristol Red #4 said: Possibly only change to this for me would be GON (if fit) in for Hegeler...not a reflection on him as I do think he is a very good player but would like us to play a high tempo tonight. Not sure Hegeler and GON would work together and I like Brownhill's energy. Hopefully Tommo is on it tonight to link up with Taylor and Cotts and JB can get some good deliveries into Djuric. I think with Brownhill over pack allows us to play at a higher tempo, I think o'neil would slow it down, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 It´s time to rest Flint and get Hordur in the team! Flints is to slow and no big threat in our corners and freekicks anymore. PS LJ will never rest him so i hope he scores today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Linkedarm wall said: I tend to agree and 4-4-2 is something that players apparently understand the best. The trouble is with our squad, 4-4-2 means the likes of Vyner, Matthews,Goldbourne, Little (when fit) have to play in some guise and it means a 'left back' (ish) in Bryan playing left midfield, are they good enough? Also means Mags can't get in. We have Tomlin, Paterson, Reid who prefer to play 'in the hole', so it rules them out as well. So in my opinion the best use of our squad is 3-4-3 and to get our best players playing and having to use any of our full backs! gif / fileding wright flint Mags Cotts heg/o neill brownhill/pack bryan tomlin/Reid/Paterson Djuric/ Wilbs Tammy/ Taylor Whether our better players are good enough remains to be seen and if the recruitment and tactics are good enough. COYR Good post. I'm a little torn between this formation and 4-4-2 with the line Alessandro posted. I like the 3-4-3/5-3-2 you posted for lots of reasons and you've articulated them well, However, I think I'd still lean towards 442 more because of where we are in the league, it's a little more familliar and simple to deploy and while we are struggling probably makes the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossendale Red Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I think with Brownhill over pack allows us to play at a higher tempo, I think o'neil would slow it down, That's why I've kept Brownhill in Monkeh. I was thinking, without sounding too xenophobic, more of a "British" tempo....which GON would be more than used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, South Bristol Red #4 said: That's why I've kept Brownhill in Monkeh. I was thinking, without sounding too xenophobic, more of a "British" tempo....which GON would be more than used to. understandable, my worry is does o'neil have the legs to make an impact against Fulham?, aren't Fulham the highest passers in the top 4 diversions? Think we'll need hard workers off the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middlesbrough Robin Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: Giefer Matthews - Flint - Wright - Golbourne Cotterill - Brownhill - Hegeler - Bryan Djuric - Taylor Following what I saw at the Leeds game I would go with this. Tomlin was too far off the pace and on a different wavelength from the rest of the team most of the time. A good option to have off the bench if something different is required towards the end of the game. Cotterill was my man of the match and I think him, Djuric and Taylor could be a productive trio. Bryan was a bit of a disappointment but still probably our best option on the left at the moment. I thought that the defence were generally ok. Hegler and Brownhill played well together in the middle but Hegler tired badly towards the end of the game, maybe he needs substituting for Pack or O'Neil after about 60/70 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: Whats all this I keep reading 'need to give flint a rest'? He doesn't look tired. Do people mean he should be dropped? yes but trying not to sound too harsh about it, I think its due to the fact that he's universally liked but he's been the only consistent in the shocking run of results and the schoolboy defending cock ups so some want to see something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: drinking, he's thinks you are pissed because you said we'll get 3 points Ahh, Right. HaHa. That's very funny. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 4-2-3-1 for me. Match up: Fulham have used this system 30 out of 31 games. The top sides don't chop and change formations. Villa have tried 10 systems. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Middlesbrough Robin said: Following what I saw at the Leeds game I would go with this. Tomlin was too far off the pace and on a different wavelength from the rest of the team most of the time. A good option to have off the bench if something different is required towards the end of the game. Cotterill was my man of the match and I think him, Djuric and Taylor could be a productive trio. Bryan was a bit of a disappointment but still probably our best option on the left at the moment. I thought that the defence were generally ok. Hegler and Brownhill played well together in the middle but Hegler tired badly towards the end of the game, maybe he needs substituting for Pack or O'Neil after about 60/70 minutes. Stability is key for me. The Derby performance was good for 45 minutes before the inevitable happened and we didn't quite hit the heights at Leeds despite having our share of chances. Brownhill is improving all the time and Tammy's absence makes the forward decision making a lot easier for LJ. You never know which Tomlin is going to turn up and that's a risk we can't afford to take tonight IMO. Djuric and Taylor look like a promising partnership in the making and I'd like to see us go for it from the off and playing to our strengths. We could have 11 defenders and we'd still not keep a clean sheet so let's try and win the offensive battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meryl Goodrum Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 20/02/2017 at 17:22, old_eastender said: With Tammy out, surely, surely, LJ has to start with Djuric AND Taylor up front? Personally I'd like to see 3-5-2 or perhaps more of a 3-4-1-2, but whatever the formation has to be Djuric & Taylor up front together. Giefer Wright Flint Mags Cotteril Heggler Tomlin Brownhill Bryan Taylor Djuric Agreed but wouldn't mind seeing Reid in there somewhere if he's fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Meryl Goodrum said: Agreed but wouldn't mind seeing Reid in there somewhere if he's fit? play with 12 men, good thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, Monkeh said: understandable, my worry is does o'neil have the legs to make an impact against Fulham?, aren't Fulham the highest passers in the top 4 diversions? Think we'll need hard workers off the ball IMO the best pass & move side in the Championship...We will need to keep our concentration levels high. In the reverse fixture we struggled to get the ball untill the second goal(against play)went in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 The three were outstanding in that formation when winning 4-0 at Craven Cottage. As was Reid who can't defend (allegedly) - scoring from a holding role. Swap Patterson for Cotterill and Bryan for Freeman and it is busy enough. Tomlin was great that day but would not start centrally for me today. Paterson probably would with Hegeler and Brownhill behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 20/02/2017 at 17:56, NorwichbasedWurzel said: 4-4-2 is the only way to play in the championship when you have an average squad. The sooner the coaching staff realise this the better Haven't they shown their agreement, by playing 4-4-2..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: The three were outstanding in that formation when winning 4-0 at Craven Cottage. As was Reid who can't defend (allegedly) - scoring from a holding role. Swap Patterson for Cotterill and Bryan for Freeman and it is busy enough. Tomlin was great that day but would not start centrally for me today. Paterson probably would with Hegeler and Brownhill behind. cotts has been good since he came back, I wouldn't drop him, he's really assured and has a good delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouslastword Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 23 hours ago, Alessandro said: This for me has to be the formation and players. I would make one change and swap Mathews for Magnusson. Think this gives us stability and right through the middle with good tempo and energy in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: cotts has been good since he came back, I wouldn't drop him, he's really assured and has a good delivery Cotts is back when did LJ go? nah seriously 2 up front a couple of goals before ht job done init? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Does anyone else ever look at the team and wonder how the hell we are in 21st position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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