RumRed Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, lancsred said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he Mark Ashton's recommendation so in many ways it is his fault he's here in the first place. Funny how out of all the managers that could have been recommended it happened to be SLs prodigal son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, lancsred said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he Mark Ashton's recommendation so in many ways it is his fault he's here in the first place. You dont really beleive this do you??? All just spin. SL was always going to shoe horn his adopted son into the hot seat. MA didnt have a choice. He had to do as his boss said and make it look like he was his man when in reality i doubt he would of even bothering interviewing him if it was his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kachina II Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, milo1111 said: You dont really beleive this do you??? All just spin. SL was always going to shoe horn his adopted son into the hot seat. MA didnt have a choice. He had to do as his boss said and make it look like he was his man when in reality i doubt he would of even bothering interviewing him if it was his decision. When it comes to Bristol City FC, I find it hard who to believe anymore, absolutely nothing surprises me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: That's the party line but it's plainly obvious that LJ is Lansdown's man through and through. Which tells you everything you need to know about how the club is run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Why are you quoting "yourself"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, lancsred said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he Mark Ashton's recommendation so in many ways it is his fault he's here in the first place. Mark Ashton recommended LJ to SL and co. After SL sent Ashton off to speak to LJ. LJ was SL's choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Sack Steve Landsdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, shelts said: Sack Steve Landsdown And watch what would happen. We might all disagree with LJ still being in a job but SL has earned the right to make that call. He has bank rolled the club for years and will continue to do so for himself and for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoons said: And watch what would happen. We might all disagree with LJ still being in a job but SL has earned the right to make that call. He has bank rolled the club for years and will continue to do so for himself and for us. Have we finally tracked down Keith Dawe? Hope you're well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: Have we finally tracked down Keith Dawe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I thought that was Engvall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, David Brent said: I hate it when we're shit.. 98% of your life, as a football fan, is ****** then. Sorry to break it to you in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Lots of views on this one but I personally think the guy is a bad apple. Jono is out of his depth but MA has negotiated so many deals to save his own arse. We now see Johnson having a massive squad of players and he is more confused how to manage them...let alone play them. We have 3 Dressing Rooms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Tbf to SL he is renowned for giving managers a really good go at it through the bad Although it's been frustrating for the majority of the supporters over the last few years, eventually with this policy of patience, he will gain respect from better potential coaches/ managers in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Big C said: Our squad isnt that big and smaller than a lot of clubs I think you are very wrong in that respect. Probably looking at 60 to 70 players aged 18 and above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 23, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Tbf to SL he is renowned for giving managers a really good go at it through the bad Although it's been frustrating for the majority of the supporters over the last few years, eventually with this policy of patience, he will gain respect from better potential coaches/ managers in the future I'm sure they all respect him with their nice golden handshakes after getting the boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, tomo said: I think you are very wrong in that respect. Probably looking at 60 to 70 players aged 18 and above! Our first team squad is actually 5th smallest in the league. So no, he's very right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, phantom said: I'm sure they all respect him with their nice golden handshakes after getting the boot Johnson needs a golden shower rather than handshake once he gets the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, RumRed said: Johnson needs a golden shower rather than handshake once he gets the boot. Yeh, but that would be taking the p1ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Our first team squad is actually 5th smallest in the league. So no, he's very right. Homework! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, tomo said: Mark Ashton is so full of "corporate dribble" and it's only himself that believes the nonsense he comes out with! I honestly think that he thinks that "he is bigger and more important than the owner" SACK HIM STEVE - AND QUICKLY - we have more players on our books than the people trying to get into our Country - all Mark Ashton's doing! This guy is more suited to the Financial Industry, talking the talk and delivering very little and at the same time wasting ALLLLLLLOTTTTTTTTTT OF MONEY! Please get this idiot away from our club! QUICKLY! But you posted on December 27th that LJ 'won't get sacked even if we are in a relegation battle or get relegated' - you told people it was pointless talking about it because it wasn't gonna happen come what may... What's changed your mind to the extent that you now start a thread about 'Jono' getting sacked?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redland Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 hours ago, lancsred said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he Mark Ashton's recommendation so in many ways it is his fault he's here in the first place. At the time Mark Ashton said that LJ was by far the outstanding candidate and he had no hesitation in recommending him to the board. This after telling us that we would be surprised at the number and quality of applicants for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 hours ago, lancsred said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he Mark Ashton's recommendation so in many ways it is his fault he's here in the first place. The biggest question mark for me in the 'process' was that only one person interviewed...very nawty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cummins17 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Completley disagree, think MA has done an unbelievable job. If you remember back to when cotts was in charge we couldn't attract absolutely anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 9 hours ago, JasonM88 said: Is it not obvious it's Lansdowns man well yes and no. MA could have suggested LJ, knowing full well that SL would definitely buy into it. Get into his good books, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 So.... Mr Ashton was employed by us in a similar role when a Mr McInnes was in charge - I seem to remember a bloated, ill balanced squad with little quality.... History repeating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 sorry op can't agree with this, Please explain what MA has actually done wrong? We have a decent scouting set up now, we seem to be able to get deals done and got some decent players in, Our problems at the moment are purely from the dug out and the head coach, I believe changing him and we'll start winning, The players seem confused and beaten, its just like when SoD was here, and I think it goes to show that a "thinking mans" coach does not work in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I just think if LJ is sacked, MA should follow. Together, as a team they have spent a ludicrous amount of money. As ciderwithtommy has highlighted, we have a bloated, ill balanced squad which will take years to trim down, whilst a new management team will want to bring in some quality of their own. Let's remember, the majority of the players (is it 28?) that have been brought in by the "dream team" are players that were not wanted by their previous clubs, or simply fringe players. I think some will do well, but many are not worth a Bristol City Contract. If someone has the time, it would be interesting to see the full list of players that LJ and MA have given contracts (all players including youth and ones for the future!). Everyone has an opinion but you might start to question how you feel about MA - the guy thinks he is bigger than the club and we would fall apart without him. In fact, It's the complete opposite, we are falling apart with him!! Why has he been allowed to bring in so many players, clearly not good for the well being of the club. They should both be relieved of their duties. In my opinion (and I am entitled to have one), the squad is far too big now and Mark Ashton is to blame. Johnson can't cope and must go, along with MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, tomo said: I just think if LJ is sacked, MA should follow. Together, as a team they have spent a ludicrous amount of money. As ciderwithtommy has highlighted, we have a bloated, ill balanced squad which will take years to trim down, whilst a new management team will want to bring in some quality of their own. Let's remember, the majority of the players (is it 28?) that have been brought in by the "dream team" are players that were not wanted by their previous clubs, or simply fringe players. I think some will do well, but many are not worth a Bristol City Contract. If someone has the time, it would be interesting to see the full list of players that LJ and MA have given contracts (all players including youth and ones of the future!). Everyone has an opinion but you might start to question how you feel about MA - the guy thinks he is bigger than the club and we would fall apart without him. In fact, It's the complete opposite, we are falling apart with him!! Why has he been allowed to bring in so many players, clearly not good for the well being of the club. They should both be relieved of their duties. In my opinion (and I am entitled to have one), the squad is far too big now and Mark Ashton is to blame. Johnson can't cope and must go, along with MA. you're entitled to think that, just don't think you'll find many who agree, If Ashton was part of the Coaching staff or had anything to do with the playing side of things then you'd maybe have a point, but Ashton was brought in to change the way we scout (which was a shambles @spudski is better placed to explain that), continue to imporve the set up of the youth sides (which has happened) and to get deals over the line (which he has done) The squad isn't big enough, we have the big smallest in the league and do not have enough cover in two key positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted February 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: But you posted on December 27th that LJ 'won't get sacked even if we are in a relegation battle or get relegated' - you told people it was pointless talking about it because it wasn't gonna happen come what may... What's changed your mind to the extent that you now start a thread about 'Jono' getting sacked?! I said IF he is sacked ! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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