TV Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's all surprisingly quiet on here, all I can say is what a bunch of lying bar stewards, what is the point of a Manifesto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 As someone who is self employed, I'm not impressed they've lied, but then I expect nothing less from this government anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I bet all those Tory London cabbies are steaming with anger now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 The case for the self employed NICs has changed since the abolition of second state pension. The new arrangement give them a higher pension and it is only fair to the rest of society that they pay their way. Any change is a matter of regret, but whilst we have such a huge deficit and the debt that is being built up by having that deficit, we all have to stump us a bit more. The top 1% of earners are paying 27% of the whole income tax take, so they are more than doing their bit. Having known a number of London cabbies, I would not feel sorry for them, they make a lot more than you might imagine and tips are never fully declared - plus they can work as long as they need to fit their financial requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Whilst I'm self employed, the amount I earn doesn't change from week to week, so this will actually be a cut in what I earn. Hence why I'm not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: The case for the self employed NICs has changed since the abolition of second state pension. The new arrangement give them a higher pension and it is only fair to the rest of society that they pay their way. Any change is a matter of regret, but whilst we have such a huge deficit and the debt that is being built up by having that deficit, we all have to stump us a bit more. The top 1% of earners are paying 27% of the whole income tax take, so they are more than doing their bit. Having known a number of London cabbies, I would not feel sorry for them, they make a lot more than you might imagine and tips are never fully declared - plus they can work as long as they need to fit their financial requirements. Christ! Who tips a black cab driver? I never have and never will! I know only too well how much they make, so if they want a tip they'd better stick to fleecing American tourists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Christ! Who tips a black cab driver? I never have and never will! I know only too well how much they make, so if they want a tip they'd better stick to fleecing American tourists! They do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: Whilst I'm self employed, the amount I earn doesn't change from week to week, so this will actually be a cut in what I earn. Hence why I'm not impressed. You can also earn more before you start to pay tax - so I don't think it will hurt you very much at all. Emplyed earnings are subject to employees and employers NICs - so are still taxed more heavily than self employed earnings - and with your additional pension expectations, you are not really being harshly treated. We still have a vast deficit. Even pensioners have been badly hit - I lost about £2000 a year by being a few months too young and losing my second state pension. The age allowance was kicked into touch a few years ago - we are all in this together. I still owe you a bacon sarnie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'm bored with a Conservative government. I'm voting Jezza in in 2020. Time for casino budgets - let's spend big!! I'm talking trillions of unfunded projects the country cannot afford - - double the NHS budget = twice the service? - not £2B for social care - let's spend that every month - scrap trident and spend the money on bomb-proof affordable housing - banish inequality - 99 % tax on anyone earning for than min wage - min wage £25 per hour, with no requirement to work - fixed 25 year terms for Labour leaders tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Dangerous talk, TFJ. You know what happened to Jim Hacker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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