mattjtsmith Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Do we think he will stay on next year? I think he's been amazing since arriving, just makes us tick. Hoping that it's a case of if we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Possibly, seems he's not wanted at Birmingham if Zola stays. We could do a lot worse on a cut price fee. If they go down I hope we look at Donaldson. Great replacement/alternative to Wilbraham and still is very good at 33. Wouldn't be surprised if Rowett tried to get him to Derby - very dependable player at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 if not then its obvious that cotts is the type of player we've been crying out for so hope we got a plan b or c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 I suppose it depends whether he wants to stay here or sees a move back as a retrograde step. I remember posting at the end of the January window that for all the fuss about signing Taylor in particular that he could be the key signing. The balance he gives on the right allows Johnson to play 3 4 or 5 in midfield and his tracking back allows us to play Tomlin further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I suppose it depends whether he wants to stay here or sees a move back as a retrograde step. I remember posting at the end of the January window that for all the fuss about signing Taylor in particular that he could be the key signing. The balance he gives on the right allows Johnson to play 3 4 or 5 in midfield and his tracking back allows us to play Tomlin further forward. Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURTZ Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sign Him on, sign Him on, sign Him on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... That is interesting isn't it? He looks like he should still have the pace to do it but I don't think I have seen him going flat out. He seems to take the "Beckham" approach, i.e. crossing the ball early or with enough bend on it that it arrives as if it has been cut back from the dead ball line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... Beckham never did that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Super said: Beckham never did that either. Yep. But that was a strategy so Beckham would sustain less injuries and be effective over longer periods of time. Tackles were left to others. Not sure that is the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 His delivery is generally excellent from the flanks and set pieces. Not all wingers go around the outside of their marker to get the ball into the box. I think he offers a lot of balance down that right hand side. He's the finished article at this level, would be very happy to have him on board for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploppy Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 If Zola stays he will stay with us. If a new manager comes in who identifies Cotterill as a key player for the blues (as he was under Rowett) then he will likely go back. Here's hoping they don't pull the trigger but it seems highly unlikely in the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Would love him to stay. My concern is we've put him in the shop window and his performances wont have gone unnoticed by other clubs. Hopefully they don't come sniffing at the end of the season. In addition, if Birmingham continue their downturn in form since Zola's arrival there is every chance in my opinion he'll get the boot come seasons end. And then another manager may wish to take a fresh look at Cotterill. Although if Zola stays I see no way he's going back there and its up to us to persuade him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Cotts was very surprised to be coming to us as he was under the impression that he was about to get a new contract at Birmingham. I'd hope we've already tested the ground with regards to whether Cotts wants to come back permanently & (or) if Birmingham would agree to allowing Cotts to leave permanently so we can get a deal done as early as possible rather than have Birmingham change their mind & want him back. He's clearly filled one part of the puzzle that we've been missing throughout the season (along with the right-back position) & that has left us ridiculously exposed down our entire right-side for the majority of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeCiderRed Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... Doesn't like a 50/50 either. Rarely have I seen him put a foot in. That said you can't argue with his desire to get onto a forward ball, make decent crosses and has a good range in him from deadball/freekick positions. If Blues don't want him and he is happy here then we should sign him permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 He tracks back to help out the fullback as well. His diligence is a part of the reason why we have stopped conceding IMHO and his experience can do the likes of COD no harm at all. If we can get him on a permanent deal, it's a no brainer TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... He doesn't need to , he gets his crosses in in Beckhamesque style . The cross for Tammy on Friday night was a perfect example of that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Gomes Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Jury's out for me. The first few games I thought he was excellent. Aside from his quality deliveries he was also committing the full back and getting past. More recently he seems to have gone into his shell - perhaps dragged down by the general malaise in the team. Certainly doesn't like to get stuck in and not sure he is wholly committed. That said there is no denying he's the best we have with set pieces. Overall I don't see too much difference from his predecessor Freeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: He doesn't need to , he gets his crosses in in Beckhamesque style . The cross for Tammy on Friday night was a perfect example of that . That cross to Tammy was brilliant timing by both players and would have graced the premier!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrobin Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Soke to him recently and would love to stay but all depends what league we were in, which was a fair answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 5 hours ago, ontariored said: Yep. But that was a strategy so Beckham would sustain less injuries and be effective over longer periods of time. Tackles were left to others. Not sure that is the case here. Behave. David Beckham never had the ability or a trick with the ball on the floor to beat his man, had nothing to do with the fact he could 'sustain less injuries'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sorry to be thick but given the recent legions of posters all declaring they are boycotting the ground and not renewing until the manager goes, how on earth can we afford to sign up any new players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... Doesn't need to when he whips in top quality early crosses like he did to Tammy on Friday As others have said - Beckham didn't - he didn't need to , created half a yard and whipped it in - Actually a lot harder to defend against than from a winger who's beaten his man when defenders are anticipating the timing Edit Apologies @Major Isewater - You had already succinctly posted the same before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Nuno Gomez said: Jury's out for me. The first few games I thought he was excellent. Aside from his quality deliveries he was also committing the full back and getting past. More recently he seems to have gone into his shell - perhaps dragged down by the general malaise in the team. Certainly doesn't like to get stuck in and not sure he is wholly committed. That said there is no denying he's the best we have with set pieces. Overall I don't see too much difference from his predecessor Freeman Or maybe the team were playing so bad he was like a shining light now the team form has picked up he doesn't stand out so much. Can't remember for a long time somebody with a better delivery of a cross in a City shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Corners - better than anyone we've had for years. Free kicks into the box - equally good. Crossing at pace - pretty superb. Tracking back - increasingly erratic. Tackling his player - almost never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 14 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Doesn't need to when he whips in top quality early crosses like he did to Tammy on Friday As others have said - Beckham didn't - he didn't need to , created half a yard and whipped it in - Actually a lot harder to defend against than from a winger who's beaten his man when defenders are anticipating the timing Edit Apologies @Major Isewater - You had already succinctly posted the same before Great minds think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 14 hours ago, Sparkz 76 said: Or maybe the team were playing so bad he was like a shining light now the team form has picked up he doesn't stand out so much. Can't remember for a long time somebody with a better delivery of a cross in a City shirt. He was excellent against Huddersfield. I think he's had one average game since he's been back other than that he's been energetic, positive and assured. A big signing for us and I believe he genuinely cares that the club stay up ( perhaps with an eye on a permanent if we stay up ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 18 hours ago, bris red said: Behave. David Beckham never had the ability or a trick with the ball on the floor to beat his man, had nothing to do with the fact he could 'sustain less injuries'. Behave???... You read into this the wrong way... You obviously know nothing of Beckham.... Fergie was quoted after Beckham's retirement that they needed to keep Beckam playing and on the pitch... no tackles!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Why does cotterill need to get stuck in tackles or be someone that takes his man on and beats him when his qualities are finding and creating space and providing quality crosses. theres no point beating a man with trickery and pace when you have the quality to put in an earlier cross and catch people out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 11:38, Robbored said: Indeed. He definitely gives Junior greater formation options. He's done pretty well so far but has anyone noticed that he never takes on a full back or any defender for that matter? Scott Murray he ain't...... On 3/20/2017 at 11:43, Port Said Red said: That is interesting isn't it? He looks like he should still have the pace to do it but I don't think I have seen him going flat out. He seems to take the "Beckham" approach, i.e. crossing the ball early or with enough bend on it that it arrives as if it has been cut back from the dead ball line. He has beefed up since he left us as kid and doesn't have the traditional winger physique anymore and that probably takes away an element of pace I suspect. But a big yes from me sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 He's a decent Championship-quality player - nothing spectacular but we have looked better since his arrival. I'd like it if he stays - if not we'll need a replacement because he has brought some much nended balance to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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