oldstandrobin Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 With grateful thanks to Dollymarie for allowing me to put this on the main forum, could you please just take a few minutes and look at the dilemma facing my daughter, who made the fatal mistake of marrying someone from another country. https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/help-keep-our-family-together--5 Any donation you can make is greatly appreciated because as a father and grandfather, it breaks my heart to see my daughter lose weight and find it difficult to focus on a day to day basis knowing that she could have her little family break up purely because of bureaucracy. On a light hearted note, I have taken Carlos to AG for a couple of matches this season and he reckons we are great . Amazing the Ecuadorian sense of humour. Thanks Dave . Oldstandrobin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Good luck, I will make a contribution My wife is in a similar situation but luckily (touch wood) I earn enough to cover the arbitrary threshold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said: Good luck, I will make a contribution My wife is in a similar situation but luckily (touch wood) I earn enough to cover the arbitrary threshold Very much appreciated. I will be doing a contribution myself as I don't want anyone to think we aren't going to assist. Caroline started a Just giving page then changed to this one so awaiting my contribution back to give it to this one !! Caroline is a TV producer but cant get a job at moment so is working for Pertemps on a less than threshold, but like City's plight we hope that will change as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Sad as it is these stipulations have been in place a long time. You have to be earning 18500 a years and I think an extra 2000 per child. Although this may be rising slightly I wish your daughter and family all the best. But I know 2 friends who have been through the same. Unfortunately after wasting solicitor fees they had to return to their own country. One is now back as their other half worked their butt off got a promotion and changed job to get themselves just over the threshold. Good luck I wish them well. I guess there is no chance of him coming back on a skilled work visa.. or potentially your daughter going to live there to keep the family together. All very Sad You took him to AG? Cruel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Very much appreciated. I will be doing a contribution myself as I don't want anyone to think we aren't going to assist. Caroline started a Just giving page then changed to this one so awaiting my contribution back to give it to this one !! Caroline is a TV producer but cant get a job at moment so is working for Pertemps on a less than threshold, but like City's plight we hope that will change as well. That is awkward. Most producers contract. And she will need to be in work for at least 6 months. There has to be something out there paying better than temp jobs with her skills. That makes all the more frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, TRL said: Sad as it is these stipulations have been in place a long time. You have to be earning 18500 a years and I think an extra 2000 per child. Although this may be rising slightly I wish your daughter and family all the best. But I know 2 friends who have been through the same. Unfortunately after wasting solicitor fees they had to return to their own country. One is now back as their other half worked their butt off got a promotion and changed job to get themselves just over the threshold. Good luck I wish them well. I guess there is no chance of him coming back on a skilled work visa.. or potentially your daughter going to live there to keep the family together. All very Sad You took him to AG? Cruel! Once my daughter gets clearance for him to stay, she can realistically earn that sort of money, so it is a catch 22. My wife and I dont want her to go to Ecuador as we want our grandson to be brought up here, sadly I want him as a mascot at AG in years to come, some things money cant buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Once my daughter gets clearance for him to stay, she can realistically earn that sort of money, so it is a catch 22. My wife and I dont want her to go to Ecuador as we want our grandson to be brought up here, sadly I want him as a mascot at AG in years to come, some things money cant buy I think they would be better going to Ecuador. You sound a very cruel grandad :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Will certainly donate and share the link on Facebook and Twitter. Caroline, Carlos & little Thomas deserve a proper family life (albeit less visits to AG e.g. Dave!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Will certainly donate and share the link on Facebook and Twitter. Caroline, Carlos & little Thomas deserve a proper family life (albeit less visits to AG e.g. Dave!) Cheers Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grifty Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Good luck, I will make a contribution My wife is in a similar situation but luckily (touch wood) I earn enough to cover the arbitrary threshold Your wife is married to a man from Ecuador? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 hours ago, oldstandrobin said: With grateful thanks to Dollymarie for allowing me to put this on the main forum, could you please just take a few minutes and look at the dilemma facing my daughter, who made the fatal mistake of marrying someone from another country. https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/help-keep-our-family-together--5 Any donation you can make is greatly appreciated because as a father and grandfather, it breaks my heart to see my daughter lose weight and find it difficult to focus on a day to day basis knowing that she could have her little family break up purely because of bureaucracy. On a light hearted note, I have taken Carlos to AG for a couple of matches this season and he reckons we are great . Amazing the Ecuadorian sense of humour. Thanks Dave . Oldstandrobin. Terrible situation for you, Carlos, your daughter, and Thomas. Why is this world so cruel, why do the people who make these heinous decisions not have any compassion? Surely a married man with a young son should be able to stay in the country. Is there a local MP that can help? Is there no legal aid available in such matters? I read of so many situations like this, and each time, it serves as a harsh reminder of the grave flaws of humanity. Hope it all works out, somehow, someway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 is it me? what am I not seeing? what has an Ecuadorian citizen got to do with Brexit Apologies if I'm being simplistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: is it me? what am I not seeing? what has an Ecuadorian citizen got to do with Brexit Apologies if I'm being simplistic Nil nisi bonum de familia. Put yourself in the OP's position; this is not a thread for debate. Support or keep quiet are the two options in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: Nil nisi bonum de familia. Put yourself in the OP's position; this is not a thread for debate. Support or keep quiet are the two options in this matter. Forums are for debate Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: is it me? what am I not seeing? what has an Ecuadorian citizen got to do with Brexit Apologies if I'm being simplistic Nobody has mentioned Brexit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 8 hours ago, reddogkev said: Terrible situation for you, Carlos, your daughter, and Thomas. Why is this world so cruel, why do the people who make these heinous decisions not have any compassion? Surely a married man with a young son should be able to stay in the country. Is there a local MP that can help? Is there no legal aid available in such matters? I read of so many situations like this, and each time, it serves as a harsh reminder of the grave flaws of humanity. Hope it all works out, somehow, someway. Kev, Caroline used to live near us but sadly not much work down here and our local MP, James Heappey has been about as useless as a chocolate fire guard ! She has moved to Bristol and is now in Bristol West constituency where MP Thangam Debbonaire has been fantastic and they have a face to face on March 25th. Sadly no legal aid as why we have to fundraise.The one thing about supporting City is that we never give up hope !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 My wife's cousin is married to a Korean woman and they've had to go through a similar process to get her over here. It's so arbitrary and cruel, you have my sympathy. Have you looked at the so-called 'Singh Route' to getting residency? If I remember, your daughter and her husband have to go and work full time in another EU nation where he could get a work visa for 6 months and then European law grants the non-EU citizen residency rights. Google it or consult a specialist solicitor about whether it would apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, oldstandrobin said: Nobody has mentioned Brexit ! On the 28th June, a few days after Brexit ,,,,, someone did. Can I ask another question? Why is the collection in US Dollars if the case is being fought in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Good luck to the OP. Not really sure this should be on a football forum though. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: On the 28th June, a few days after Brexit ,,,,, someone did. Can I ask another question? Why is the collection in US Dollars if the case is being fought in the UK? Because its an American platform which works in dollars. That is all. 23 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Totally right. Nothing to do with Brexit. Be very very very very careful giving money guys. She was just making a point about when it happened. It was never stated it was due to Brexit. Come on guys, show some compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Super said: Good luck to the OP. Not really sure this should be on a football forum though. Just my opinion. I've agreed it can stay here for a few days to try and help the situation. I'll be moving it to non footy next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: Forums are for debate Eddie. That was my first thought, terrible over reaction in treating someone who asks a reasonable question on a Forum. This is a political situation, not humanitarian, and this sort of appeal has no place on a football forum, however I sincerely wish the OP well in his fund raising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Dollymarie said: I've agreed it can stay here for a few days to try and help the situation. I'll be moving it to non footy next week Should never have been put on here in the first place, not that it is not worthy, but crowd funding has no place on here imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I thought that this thread title was referring to the need to keep a family together in one of the stands given the recent hoo-hah about Season Card holders being forced out of their seats etc. Surely, if anyone posts what is essentially a non-football related, crowd-funding thread on a Football Forum (and the moderators are foolish enough to let it stand), they have to expect 'opinions and debate'. Not everyone is going to be supportive of the original plea and they might well comment negatively. Some people might think that if one chooses to marry a person from a South American country or any other far-distant place, the responsibility for investigating and understanding the rules regarding potential future UK residency falls fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the people directly involved and that it is not incumbent on the UK government to continually bend its laws to suit every plaintif with a hard-luck story, no matter how heart-rending a case it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: On the 28th June, a few days after Brexit ,,,,, someone did. Can I ask another question? Why is the collection in US Dollars if the case is being fought in the UK? ask my daughter, I am only the messenger, please don't be so pedantic Gerry Please donate or just leave us in peace. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sir Leigh of Somerset said: I thought that this thread title was referring to the need to keep a family together in one of the stands given the recent hoo-hah about Season Card holders being forced out of their seats etc. Surely, if anyone posts what is essentially a non-football related, crowd-funding thread on a Football Forum (and the moderators are foolish enough to let it stand), they have to expect 'opinions and debate'. Not everyone is going to be supportive of the original plea and they might well comment negatively. Some people might think that if one chooses to marry a person from a South American country or any other far-distant place, the responsibility for investigating and understanding the rules regarding potential future UK residency falls fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the people directly involved and that it is not incumbent on the UK government to continually bend its laws to suit every plaintif with a hard-luck story, no matter how heart-rending a case it might be. Hope it never happens to you sunshine................try consoling your kids when their hearts are breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Thatch35 said: Totally right. Nothing to do with Brexit. Be very very very very careful giving money guys. Thanks Thatch, hope I can help you one day......NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 56 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: They already have a court date for the appeal. So must already have some money already > http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/22/europe/uk-spouse-income-supreme-court-ruling/ Another wise guy who knows it all. Want copies of our bank statements ???????????????????????????? I am a senior on just a state pension,hope you never have kids in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 All sorts of bad things have happened to me and my family during my life-time, sunshine. I've just never chosen to whine about it all publicly or ask strangers for financial help in dealing with any of it (even though I could have done with such help). My comment wasn't a pop at you and your family personally but more to point out that there is always another side to a debate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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