Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[WTFiGO!?!]

2 minutes ago, myol'man said:

Billy Bodin (who?) is worth £3m apparently. 

Cool, man.  Let Stevie L snap him up and lay him off 'injured' for about ten grand then 

[RumRed]

4 minutes ago, myol'man said:

Billy Bodin (who?) is worth £3m apparently. 

By that reckoning (based on MT's valuation) we'd have to pay just under £100k for him.

Worth it for a laugh I guess, they could use the money to fix their 'championship ready'  sprinklers.

[havanatopia]

All this talk of Rovers 'stealing' the Mem was always and remains troubling to me. I never really believed such rhetoric.

Reading the rather level headed remarks below from poster 'Holmes' on the Rovers forum might be worth further analysis:~

When the Memorial Stadium Company purchased  the Mem from Arthur Holmes it was for £2.6m. Bristol Rovers were liable for half and the Rugby club the other half. When the rugby club went bust Rovers acquired their share of the stadium and the debt for £10k. Funded 50% by Barclays with a mortgage secured on the stadium and 50% by preferential shareholders. Read the accounts, it's all in there

[WTFiGO!?!]

29 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

All this talk of Rovers 'stealing' the Mem was always and remains troubling to me. I never really believed such rhetoric.

Reading the rather level headed remarks below from poster 'Holmes' on the Rovers forum might be worth further analysis:~

When the Memorial Stadium Company purchased  the Mem from Arthur Holmes it was for £2.6m. Bristol Rovers were liable for half and the Rugby club the other half. When the rugby club went bust Rovers acquired their share of the stadium and the debt for £10k. Funded 50% by Barclays with a mortgage secured on the stadium and 50% by preferential shareholders. Read the accounts, it's all in there

I'm no accountant or economist so am by no means an authority on the matter.

If you roll back several pages however, a poster 'Rich' has researched it properly.

The deal apparently is  that the rugby club was truly up shit creek (struggling to adapt to professionalism) so the Bristol RFC chairman Arthur Holmes allowed the pirates to purchase half the ground with the agreement that should one of the clubs actually go under, the other could buy the ground out for a minimal fee.  Arthur Holmes happened to be a gas head as well as a Bristol RFC man and when the Rugby club did go into administration, the pirates cleaned up.  The Rugby club was always going to be the first to fold, it was inevitable.  Holmes was given some title at the sags, as reward.

The Sags did not treat their new lodgers with much respect and resentment grew.  Bristol RFC has since been saved and relocated.  This is costing the Sags, hilariously.

R*vers have since tried to sue a national cooperation for withdrawing from purchasing the War Memorial that was purchased controversially and was readily trying to be flogged off for their own grubby ends.  

This used to fancy itself as a family club.

Is it still proporting the same because I frankly don't see it.  

Growing up in a school of Sags I saw them to be on some kind of moral pedastool as they weren't the thugs.  

I've since seen that to be the complete and utter load of bollox that it is.

[Fiale]

3 hours ago, havanatopia said:

All this talk of Rovers 'stealing' the Mem was always and remains troubling to me. I never really believed such rhetoric.

Reading the rather level headed remarks below from poster 'Holmes' on the Rovers forum might be worth further analysis:~

When the Memorial Stadium Company purchased  the Mem from Arthur Holmes it was for £2.6m. Bristol Rovers were liable for half and the Rugby club the other half. When the rugby club went bust Rovers acquired their share of the stadium and the debt for £10k. Funded 50% by Barclays with a mortgage secured on the stadium and 50% by preferential shareholders. Read the accounts, it's all in there

Let's not forget that Rovers did not have the money to purchase their share of the ground so Holmes lent them quarter of a million towards it so they could do the deal. No wonder Rovers rewarded  him and the Rugby fans... Well let's not go there. 

[havanatopia]

Thanks for the further analysis chaps.

[Vincent Vega]

1 hour ago, Fiale said:

Let's not forget that Rovers did not have the money to purchase their share of the ground so Holmes lent them quarter of a million towards it so they could do the deal. No wonder Rovers rewarded  him and the Rugby fans... Well let's not go there. 

And now fast forward to 2017. A Jordanian business man buys the club whilst securing the debt against its only asset ( using the Sags OWN money ) ....Karmas a funny old thing 

[hoxton casual]

5 hours ago, havanatopia said:

All this talk of Rovers 'stealing' the Mem was always and remains troubling to me. I never really believed such rhetoric.

Reading the rather level headed remarks below from poster 'Holmes' on the Rovers forum might be worth further analysis:~

When the Memorial Stadium Company purchased  the Mem from Arthur Holmes it was for £2.6m. Bristol Rovers were liable for half and the Rugby club the other half. When the rugby club went bust Rovers acquired their share of the stadium and the debt for £10k. Funded 50% by Barclays with a mortgage secured on the stadium and 50% by preferential shareholders. Read the accounts, it's all in there

There is more to this. Holmes was made life President and he probably knew that the rugby was on the verge of bankruptcy. Sly old fox  Mr Holmes.

[Monkeh]

On 8/27/2017 at 15:35, bert tann said:

Could someone explain why the statutory records of Terramond Developments Ltd show a mortgage charge, in favour of Lloyds TSB,  still outstanding on land they used to own at Colony Farm, Hortham Lane, Almondsbury, Bristol.

No one would be daft enough to buy a piece of land without first ensuring any previous mortgage was paid off ........  would they ?

that isn't the biggest worry bert,

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223

Confirmation statement overdue in big red letters, what are they trying to hide?,

anyway the penalty for not filing on time is this,

 

The confirmation statement replaced the annual return in June 2016 and serves roughly the same purpose. Companies must file their confirmation statement to provide Companies House with up-to-date information for inclusion on the public register.

The confirmation statement must be filed within 14 days of the end of the review period, even if there haven’t been any changes during the review period.

Companies only have to file one confirmation statement a year. However, you can choose to file a confirmation statement early, or more frequently than once a year.

Late filing penalties do not apply to an overdue confirmation statement.

Instead, failure to file confirmation statements, annual returns or accounts is a criminal offence which can result in directors being fined personally in the criminal courts. Any criminal proceedings taken as a result of non-filing of confirmation statements is separate from and in addition to any late filing penalty imposed against the company for filing accounts late.

 

[Bristol Rob]

A member of the blue fraternity has gone in to panic mode at work as it sounds like clubs are sniffing around their better player.

Fee sounds low.

[B block]

6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

A member of the blue fraternity has gone in to panic mode at work as it sounds like clubs are sniffing around their better player.

Fee sounds low.

How much ? half a snake ?

[Monkeh]

12 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

A member of the blue fraternity has gone in to panic mode at work as it sounds like clubs are sniffing around their better player.

Fee sounds low.

well matty taylor was a 10 million player and we paid 300k or 3% of said value, 

Bodin is a 3m player in gas money in real money that means he's worth 90k or 3% of 3 million 

[ZiderEyed]

3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

well matty taylor was a 10 million player and we paid 300k or 3% of said value, 

Bodin is a 3m player in gas money in real money that means he's worth 90k or 3% of 3 million 

Seems about right 

[Bristol Rob]

6 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

well matty taylor was a 10 million player and we paid 300k or 3% of said value, 

Bodin is a 3m player in gas money in real money that means he's worth 90k or 3% of 3 million 

The lad in work doesn't care why fee they get for him if he goes, purely on the basis he doesn't reckon the money will be reinvested in the team.

[Eddie Hitler]

29 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

A member of the blue fraternity has gone in to panic mode at work as it sounds like clubs are sniffing around their better player.

Fee sounds low.

Last year of contract for Bodin.

[cityal]

14 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

well matty taylor was a 10 million player and we paid 300k or 3% of said value, 

Bodin is a 3m player in gas money in real money that means he's worth 90k or 3% of 3 million 

Whoever he goes to let's hope its for a pittance and to some "giant" club the blue few cannot compete with like Peterborough or wigan. Their fans reaction to that would be fun to behold.

[Bar BS3]

On 28/08/2017 at 09:35, Gas Go Marching In said:

When you can't laugh at the score, laugh at the attendance instead. Would rather have a small attendance than a big library

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-steve-bruce-say-bristol-387980

[Eddie Hitler]

42 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

that isn't the biggest worry bert,

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223

Confirmation statement overdue in big red letters, what are they trying to hide?,

anyway the penalty for not filing on time is this,

 

The confirmation statement replaced the annual return in June 2016 and serves roughly the same purpose. Companies must file their confirmation statement to provide Companies House with up-to-date information for inclusion on the public register.

The confirmation statement must be filed within 14 days of the end of the review period, even if there haven’t been any changes during the review period.

Companies only have to file one confirmation statement a year. However, you can choose to file a confirmation statement early, or more frequently than once a year.

Late filing penalties do not apply to an overdue confirmation statement.

Instead, failure to file confirmation statements, annual returns or accounts is a criminal offence which can result in directors being fined personally in the criminal courts. Any criminal proceedings taken as a result of non-filing of confirmation statements is separate from and in addition to any late filing penalty imposed against the company for filing accounts late.

 

That's really poor.  There's nothing hard about doing these statements and they just reflect the current position for shareholdings, registered office. Simple stuff.

Criminal charges for the directors.  Must stock up on popcorn.

[Monkeh]

2 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

That's really poor.  There's nothing hard about doing these statements and they just reflect the current position for shareholdings, registered office. Simple stuff.

Criminal charges for the directors.  Must stock up on popcorn.

indeed, says to me that they are trying to hide something

[Eddie Hitler]

10 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

indeed, says to me that they are trying to hide something

Or the company is just very badly run.

Either way it's not good.

Do you think they actually know? Maybe someone should do the decent thing and phone up their Company Secretary (I jest).

[alexukhc]

:laugh: where's Bodin going?

[Bristol Rob]

11 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

where's Bodin going?

Fella in work reckons Preston.

[Eddie Hitler]

For £250k per the papers.

MEGABUCKS

[Septic Peg]

Ok it's a Daily Fail reporter but here is why gasheads are currently suffering from squeaky bum...

Sign him up LJ. 

[Port Said Red]

11 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

Ok it's a Daily Fail reporter but here is why gasheads are currently suffering from squeaky bum...

Sign him up LJ. 

What kind of contract is he on to be only worth that little? 

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Come on SL 250k must be his release clause price, we need a another midfielder, surely worth a punt?.

[Bar BS3]

18 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

What kind of contract is he on to be only worth that little? 

A Bristol Rovers contract..!

 

[Septic Peg]

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Come on SL 250k must be his release clause price, we need a another midfielder, surely worth a punt?.

Proven talent comes out of Rovers and do great things...

Taylor (work in progress), Stewart, Lambert, Roberts, Cureton (ok, maybe not him)...

[Port Said Red]

5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

A Bristol Rovers contract..!

 

Yes I know but he does seem to be doing quite well, even if he is playing for "them" you have to recognise that. Has he only a year left or something? 

[Eddie Hitler]

20 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Yes I know but he does seem to be doing quite well, even if he is playing for "them" you have to recognise that. Has he only a year left or something? 

Less than a year.