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Bristol Rovers Dustbin Thread

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1 hour ago, JBFC II said:

Attendance: 3505

But I thought we despised their support?? 

If it was at Trumpton there would be 20,000 locked out and we know that, with our shit 72 support at Scunthorpe on a Tuesday night. Disgraceful Teds!

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4 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said:

 

Seems like an appropriate place to put this!

Can't thank you enough for posting this.  My down in the dumps moody teenager would barely communicate until I took this up to show her.  Transformed her mood instantly :laughcont:

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5 hours ago, ZiderEyed said:

Thank you mate, ******* top class that. If anyone on here's got it knocking about in their shed, lets have it back for Saturday.

Unfortunately this one ripped to shreds a couple of seasons ago. I'm no longer involved but I don't think it was repairable.

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6 minutes ago, Puckle_red said:

Unfortunately this one ripped to shreds a couple of seasons ago. I'm no longer involved but I don't think it was repairable.

Shame that, lot of character in there.

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More unsubstantiated, deluded bullsh1t from the uber fans over in BS7. We're all glory hunting 'plastics' now, waiting to charge up to the Mem! :crying: I wish I knew that 40 odd years ago. :blink: As for 'the % of support stays the same'? No it doesn't. Is 7,000 compared to 21,000 (33%) the same as 6,000 is to 13,000 (46%)  then? They are totally brain dead, absolute whoppers! Their support is now 1/3 of ours, supported by both attendances and season ticket holders (~5,000 and falling in comparison to 15,500 and rising) and their % is falling as well. Long may it continue.

'If you're going to be a gashead you're going to be a gashead. It will be driven by family and/or the first game you're take to and then the bug bites. There are far more many man utd fans in Bristol than there are gasheads. We've always been in the shadow of the Dark Side of BS3, but the % of support remains the same. The ones who go to Trashton when they are doing well just because they are doing well stops as soon as they're not doing well. The majority of our support go to our games come what may, home and away, rain or shine.
IF we ever became a 'bigger' club then those 'plastics' down at Trashton would come and see us'.

 

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17 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

More unsubstantiated, deluded bullsh1t from the uber fans over in BS7. We're all glory hunting 'plastics' now, waiting to charge up to the Mem! :crying: I wish I knew that 40 odd years ago. :blink: As for 'the % of support stays the same'? No it doesn't. Is 7,000 compared to 21,000 (33%) the same as 6,000 is to 13,000 (46%)  then? They are totally brain dead, absolute whoppers! Their support is now 1/3 of ours, supported by both attendances and season ticket holders (~5,000 and falling in comparison to 15,500 and rising) and their % is falling as well. Long may it continue.

'If you're going to be a gashead you're going to be a gashead. It will be driven by family and/or the first game you're take to and then the bug bites. There are far more many man utd fans in Bristol than there are gasheads. We've always been in the shadow of the Dark Side of BS3, but the % of support remains the same. The ones who go to Trashton when they are doing well just because they are doing well stops as soon as they're not doing well. The majority of our support go to our games come what may, home and away, rain or shine.
IF we ever became a 'bigger' club then those 'plastics' down at Trashton would come and see us'.

 

It's very strange isn't it, that because we're better in every single measurable way, we're plastic glory hunters who hate real football, and they're the plucky underdogs bravely fighting against the money laden teds. They're just a wanky tinpot outfit and no amount of circlejerk and backslapping will change that.

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3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

It's very strange isn't it, that because we're better in every single measurable way, we're plastic glory hunters who hate real football, and they're the plucky underdogs bravely fighting against the money laden teds. They're just a wanky tinpot outfit and no amount of circlejerk and backslapping will change that.

Seems pretty accurate to me ZE! :thumbsup:  Can't you just sense the jealousy emanating from the sag waffle? :yes:

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6 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Seems pretty accurate to me ZE! :thumbsup:  Can't you just sense the jealousy emanating from the sag waffle? :yes:

You can smell it and all, on a matchday its like a big cloud of boiled piss floating above the Gloucester Road. :laughcont:

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5 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Seems pretty accurate to me ZE! :thumbsup:  Can't you just sense the jealousy emanating from the sag waffle? :yes:

I can, accompanied with the pungent stink of cat pi$$.:gasmask:

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7 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

Cracking work cityal. If things stay as they are, we must be close to a record deficit this season then? 

Not quite, the record season so far was in 1979 when we averaged 22,306 and they averaged just 7593 (14713 difference) which meant they needed to increase their gate a further 193.8% - 200% equates to triple their average gate.

I am not sure what the averages for this current season I think we are just under 20k and they must be around lower 9K or upper 8k. This is likely to mean this year we'd be looking at something like 120 or 130% just over double theirs.

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7 hours ago, Tom Fleuriot said:

Good stuff @cityal  any chance of putting each team’s league position in that graph?

That might be a bit tricky to show on this graph - i'll have a think about how to improve it

The graph as presented could be a bit better - I may need to work out if I can get a higher res version somewhere.

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7 hours ago, cityal said:

I think it is high time to dispel this rubbish about "core support" with every gashead's nemesis - "facts" as opposed to #gaslogic

I took some time to analyse the historical attendance data often linked in this thread to see exactly how core support stacked up over the years between the two clubs. Needless to say if that website's data is even partially correct (and there is no reason to particularly doubt it) it confirms what we all knew already.

 

So how to read this graph.....

It is based on the percentage difference in average attendances between the two clubs.  A blue bar means the gas were better supported that year, a red bar City were better supported. The size of the bar indicates the percentage difference in attendance.

For each year there is data (back to 1921, but none through WWII) I worked out the difference in attendance as a percentage of the lower of the two attendances - essentially what this figure tells you is how much the lower attended club would have needed to increase their own attendance to match the better supported club that year.

As an example last year we averaged 19256 and the blue few averaged 9302 - the difference is 9954, and that equates to an extra 107% deluded half-wits they would have needed to find (and fit into their dump) to have matched us.

 

Some observations....

Since England won the world cup just over 50 years ago rovers have had a higher average attendance once! 

Only on 6 occasions would we have needed a greater than 10% increase on our attendance in a season to match them 

There are 71 occasions where rovers would have needed a greater than 10% increase to match us

City have never needed to make up 50% or more to reach rovers attendance

On 21 occasions we have more than doubled their attendance (all figures >100% on the graph)

 

 

 

 

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So they could technically claim that there were 6 consecutive years where we didn't have larger attendances than them? Darn it, der Gas are just the hugest club and we have no hope of bettering them.....

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19 minutes ago, cityal said:

Not quite, the record season so far was in 1979 when we averaged 22,306 and they averaged just 7593 (14713 difference) which meant they needed to increase their gate a further 193.8% - 200% equates to triple their average gate.

I am not sure what the averages for this current season I think we are just under 20k and they must be around lower 9K or upper 8k. This is likely to mean this year we'd be looking at something like 120 or 130% just over double theirs.

we are averaging 19590.6 

can't tell you what they are as they don't published the data on their website (must be embarrassed) but I'm going to say 8000

so  about 140% more then them currently 

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So very good work by @cityal , but I am afraid facts don't trump #gaslogic. Trying to talk sense into them is a bit like being Yossarian in a version of Catch22. 

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1 hour ago, cityal said:

That might be a bit tricky to show on this graph - i'll have a think about how to improve it

The graph as presented could be a bit better - I may need to work out if I can get a higher res version somewhere.

Or put the gap in league positions would be rather apt. 

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9 hours ago, cityal said:

I think it is high time to dispel this rubbish about "core support" with every gashead's nemesis - "facts" as opposed to #gaslogic

I took some time to analyse the historical attendance data often linked in this thread to see exactly how core support stacked up over the years between the two clubs. Needless to say if that website's data is even partially correct (and there is no reason to particularly doubt it) it confirms what we all knew already.

Attendances.thumb.jpg.c748ec261199379d0b450b74f9f0545c.jpg

So how to read this graph.....

It is based on the percentage difference in average attendances between the two clubs.  A blue bar means the gas were better supported that year, a red bar City were better supported. The size of the bar indicates the percentage difference in attendance.

For each year there is data (back to 1921, but none through WWII) I worked out the difference in attendance as a percentage of the lower of the two attendances - essentially what this figure tells you is how much the lower attended club would have needed to increase their own attendance to match the better supported club that year.

As an example last year we averaged 19256 and the blue few averaged 9302 - the difference is 9954, and that equates to an extra 107% deluded half-wits they would have needed to find (and fit into their dump) to have matched us.

 

Some observations....

Since England won the world cup just over 50 years ago rovers have had a higher average attendance once! 

Only on 6 occasions would we have needed a greater than 10% increase on our attendance in a season to match them 

There are 71 occasions where rovers would have needed a greater than 10% increase to match us

City have never needed to make up 50% or more to reach rovers attendance

On 21 occasions we have more than doubled their attendance (all figures >100% on the graph)

 

 

 

 

 

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

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1 minute ago, Cheesleysmate said:

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

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3 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said:

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

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Edited by Bullshit?

I hope it includes Tottenham in 1977.......Surely that was the best one of them all?

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5 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said:

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

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That's because away grounds tend to have toilets rather than portaloos. Well, except Swindon.

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2 hours ago, semblar said:

So they could technically claim that there were 6 consecutive years where we didn't have larger attendances than them? Darn it, der Gas are just the hugest club and we have no hope of bettering them.....

If they count WWII then yes!!! - #gaslogic at its finest   

Either side of the war we had higher attendances

1939: City 10,430 Gas 7,999

1947: City 18,849 Gas 12,527

Their longest non-gaslogic consecutive run of getting higher attendances than us was three years

The longest consecutive run of higher attendances by either club is the run we are now 34 years and counting

 

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2 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

That's because away grounds tend to have toilets rather than portaloos. Well, except Swindon.

Gasheads don't need toilets they prefer to stay completely full of shit!

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1 minute ago, cityal said:

:laugh: if they count WWII then yes!!! - #gaslogic at its finest   

Either side of the war we had higher attendances

1939: City 10,430 Gas 7,999

1947: City 18,849 Gas 12,527

Their longest non-gaslogic consecutive run of getting higher attendances than us was three years

The longest consecutive run of higher attendances by either club is the run we are now 34 years and counting

 

Facts.........they don’t deal in facts.

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10 hours ago, cityal said:

I think it is high time to dispel this rubbish about "core support" with every gashead's nemesis - "facts" as opposed to #gaslogic

I took some time to analyse the historical attendance data often linked in this thread to see exactly how core support stacked up over the years between the two clubs. Needless to say if that website's data is even partially correct (and there is no reason to particularly doubt it) it confirms what we all knew already.

Attendances.thumb.jpg.c748ec261199379d0b450b74f9f0545c.jpg

So how to read this graph.....

It is based on the percentage difference in average attendances between the two clubs.  A blue bar means the gas were better supported that year, a red bar City were better supported. The size of the bar indicates the percentage difference in attendance.

For each year there is data (back to 1921, but none through WWII) I worked out the difference in attendance as a percentage of the lower of the two attendances - essentially what this figure tells you is how much the lower attended club would have needed to increase their own attendance to match the better supported club that year.

As an example last year we averaged 19256 and the blue few averaged 9302 - the difference is 9954, and that equates to an extra 107% deluded half-wits they would have needed to find (and fit into their dump) to have matched us.

 

Some observations....

Since England won the world cup just over 50 years ago rovers have had a higher average attendance once! 

Only on 6 occasions would we have needed a greater than 10% increase on our attendance in a season to match them 

There are 71 occasions where rovers would have needed a greater than 10% increase to match us

City have never needed to make up 50% or more to reach rovers attendance

On 21 occasions we have more than doubled their attendance (all figures >100% on the graph)

 

 

 

 

This a great post. Thanks @cityal. Please will you reproduce this post as a completely new thread then mods, please will you pin that thread so that when this subject is raised again, as it often is by the 15ers, we have the rebuttal information immediately to hand?

 

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3 hours ago, cityal said:

That might be a bit tricky to show on this graph - i'll have a think about how to improve it

The graph as presented could be a bit better - I may need to work out if I can get a higher res version somewhere.

I tried that and had problems with the fact that the number of teams in the top division changed and including div 3 north and south (though div 3 north was known as the 4th div :)  ). The graph still looked very red though.

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At a Christmas social last night attended by a few who claim to have insider knowledge of Bristol football, I heard two rumours which even if only slightly true would make VERY worrying reading to the blue few;

1 , They don't own the Colony training ground site, it's on lease and haven't paid the rent for 3 months, ground workers are about to be ordered off site.

2, They have had to take out a short term loan to pay the players.

:gasmask: 

Henbury Gas, we know you read this thread on a daily basis, what have you heard?

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3 minutes ago, myol'man said:

At a Christmas social last night attended by a few who claim to have insider knowledge of Bristol football, I heard two rumours which even if only slightly true would make VERY worrying reading to the blue few;

1 , They don't own the Colony training ground site, it's on lease and haven't paid the rent for 3 months, ground workers are about to be ordered off site.

2, They have had to take out a short term loan to pay the players.

:gasmask: 

Henbury Gas, we know you read this thread on a daily basis, what have you heard?

Please dear god let it be true :pray:

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10 hours ago, cityal said:

I think it is high time to dispel this rubbish about "core support" with every gashead's nemesis - "facts" as opposed to #gaslogic

I took some time to analyse the historical attendance data often linked in this thread to see exactly how core support stacked up over the years between the two clubs. Needless to say if that website's data is even partially correct (and there is no reason to particularly doubt it) it confirms what we all knew already.

Attendances.thumb.jpg.c748ec261199379d0b450b74f9f0545c.jpg

So how to read this graph.....

It is based on the percentage difference in average attendances between the two clubs.  A blue bar means the gas were better supported that year, a red bar City were better supported. The size of the bar indicates the percentage difference in attendance.

For each year there is data (back to 1921, but none through WWII) I worked out the difference in attendance as a percentage of the lower of the two attendances - essentially what this figure tells you is how much the lower attended club would have needed to increase their own attendance to match the better supported club that year.

As an example last year we averaged 19256 and the blue few averaged 9302 - the difference is 9954, and that equates to an extra 107% deluded half-wits they would have needed to find (and fit into their dump) to have matched us.

 

Some observations....

Since England won the world cup just over 50 years ago rovers have had a higher average attendance once! 

Only on 6 occasions would we have needed a greater than 10% increase on our attendance in a season to match them 

There are 71 occasions where rovers would have needed a greater than 10% increase to match us

City have never needed to make up 50% or more to reach rovers attendance

On 21 occasions we have more than doubled their attendance (all figures >100% on the graph)

 

 

 

 

That, my good man, is a great piece of work! Needs to be made into a poster and sold in the club shop! I'd buy one.

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1 hour ago, Cheesleysmate said:

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

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apt second name don't you think.

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11 hours ago, cityal said:

 

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Mate this is superb work, I’ve been waiting for someone to do this. I was going to have a go myself but lack of technical skill and time got in the way.  If we can combine it with league position and away attendances then we should get some billboards printed up for Gloucester rd.  end of argument 

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30 minutes ago, myol'man said:

At a Christmas social last night attended by a few who claim to have insider knowledge of Bristol football, I heard two rumours which even if only slightly true would make VERY worrying reading to the blue few;

1 , They don't own the Colony training ground site, it's on lease and haven't paid the rent for 3 months, ground workers are about to be ordered off site.

2, They have had to take out a short term loan to pay the players.

:gasmask: 

Henbury Gas, we know you read this thread on a daily basis, what have you heard?

 

Dwayne Colony own the training ground from what we were told. That they are not paying people is possible, but they do own it.

There was something wrong with the player wages, even some of the Rovers fans mentioned it, but they got shot down for the "rumour" as apparently if you don't know 100% of the facts then it makes everything you say a lie and your Ted scum trying to rock the boat.

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1 hour ago, Cheesleysmate said:

For AWAY support they are top every year....according to them. It's all about AWAY support....They even wrote a book on it! These stats are of Zero interest to Gasheads. They are the most amazingly AWAY supported team in the country....Well, they are in the top one anyway!

 

IMG_3932.JPG

 

9 minutes ago, pillred said:

apt second name don't you think.

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3 hours ago, semblar said:

So they could technically claim that there were 6 consecutive years where we didn't have larger attendances than them? Darn it, der Gas are just the hugest club and we have no hope of bettering them.....

I can’t see where they had larger attendances than us for 6 consecutive years on that graph?! Leave the exaggerating to that lot!

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46 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

That, my good man, is a great piece of work! Needs to be made into a poster and sold in the club shop! I'd buy one.

Looks even better in this format.....

 

 

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14 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Martin BULL new book coming soon.

50 years living in the shadow. 

Can't wait for this one

I thought it was "Jumpers for goalposts, tents for stands"?

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1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

I can’t see where they had larger attendances than us for 6 consecutive years on that graph?! Leave the exaggerating to that lot!

They didn't have larger attendances though - both  were zero  for six years due to WW2 (so omitted in the graph). My apologies for not applying the seemingly obligatory #Gaslogic at the end of the comment :ph34r: 

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