Super Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 As if things aren't going bad enough for him! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39478693 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I don't understand the outrage. She was blatantly baiting him and got the same response a male reporter would've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said: I don't understand the outrage. She was blatantly baiting him and got the same response a male reporter would've got. The BBC report says Moyes "was asked by Vicki Sparks if the presence of owner Ellis Short put extra pressure on him." That's a perfectly reasonable question. Some managers tend to treat women reporters with disrespect just because they are are women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said: I don't understand the outrage. She was blatantly baiting him and got the same response a male reporter would've got. So saying 'You might still get a slap even though your a women' because he couldn't take a question in an interview is a decent response in your eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 3, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Is there a soundbite of the interview? One article says they were both laughing at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, phantom said: Is there a soundbite of the interview? One article says they were both laughing at the time That's what I couldn't understand either, is it a case they knew each other well and was acceptable as a joke between them, whatever the rights and wrongs in a wider context are? Is it another case of somebody getting offended on someone else's behalf yet again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Oh. I thought we had signed him. tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 To be honest if us women want equality (and we do) then Moyes should be able to make the same comment to women reporters as he would to men. Threatening to hit someone isn't ok, but it shouldn't matter if that person is male or female, so her gender shouldn't be brought into it. The only thing that should matter is that he thinks ok to resolve conflict/issues by physical means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, RedM said: That's what I couldn't understand either, is it a case they knew each other well and was acceptable as a joke between them, whatever the rights and wrongs in a wider context are? Is it another case of somebody getting offended on someone else's behalf yet again? Indeed. The BBC leapt on this story. If he said it to a bloke it would not have been reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, phantom said: Is there a soundbite of the interview? One article says they were both laughing at the time apparently, she wasn't the one that complained.... another case of someone being offended on someone elses behalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, RedM said: That's what I couldn't understand either, is it a case they knew each other well and was acceptable as a joke between them, whatever the rights and wrongs in a wider context are? Is it another case of somebody getting offended on someone else's behalf yet again? Your response and questions seem very sensible to me RedM. The reporter readily accepted ghis apology at least what I think I read. People seem to get offended too easily these days. As they both laughed I assume there was humour in it which we all need these days. A too serious life leads to a dull life and miserable existance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: To be honest if us women want equality (and we do) then Moyes should be able to make the same comment to women reporters as he would to men. Threatening to hit someone isn't ok, but it shouldn't matter if that person is male or female, so her gender shouldn't be brought into it. The only thing that should matter is that he thinks ok to resolve conflict/issues by physical means Spot on Dolly. Outrage due to the reporter being female is completely outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Well she did laugh after it got said but that's not really relevant is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: apparently, she wasn't the one that complained.... another case of someone being offended on someone elses behalf I am offended. I'm not sure what by. But I am definitely offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I fully expect him to go the same way as Gray and Keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Super said: Well she did laugh after it got said but that's not really relevant is it? Of course it is. It adds some context. I'm sure he isn't advocating violence against women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Utterly ridiculous. It's clearly said as a joke, and they probably know each other. Christ, world's gone soft and totally PC. They were laughing FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 minute ago, David Brent said: Of course it is. It adds some context. I'm sure he isn't advocating violence against women. The point i'm making is some people when hearing something offensive will just laugh it off rather than say something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 OK, if we are going to go to the extent of potentially throwing a slap statement in what appears jest seeing both Moyes and the reporter were laughing afterwards. What is this forum's policy on the intent of that conversation with "slap" in it? It seems to me that there has been further threats on this forum between Males and Females which I like to think is taken in humour. Personally I don't think this forum is an issue, I am just raising the point as if we view those statements as inequality then we better retract a high level volume of postings. What some have said about LJ, including my delinquet self is far more rhetorical than a slap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Akira said: Utterly ridiculous. It's clearly said as a joke, and they probably know each other. Christ, world's gone soft and totally PC. They were laughing FFS! Hopefully he will be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Monday night club covering this on 5live now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 49 minutes ago, Super said: Hopefully he will be sacked. Can't tell if you're serious or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Embarrassing that he was forced to apologise. He clearly said it as a throwaway remark, they were both laughing and the reporter made no complaint. It has also been reported that he called her to apologise in private (which apparently the reporter accepted) but was advised into making the apology public- what a load of old bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, David Brent said: Can't tell if you're serious or not You say that to a female colleague in work tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 He's really made an ass of himself yet I would still love him to be the next City manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 37 minutes ago, Super said: You say that to a female colleague in work tomorrow. I do. We joke about it all the time. It's humour, we have a laugh and she/ they insult me back. All in good fun.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, ontariored said: I do. We joke about it all the time. It's humour, we have a laugh and she/ they insult me back. All in good fun.. Some will not find it so funny though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Perhaps not but life is very short. They have the option of ignoring us or going elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 6 hours ago, ontariored said: Your response and questions seem very sensible to me RedM. The reporter readily accepted ghis apology at least what I think I read. People seem to get offended too easily these days. As they both laughed I assume there was humour in it which we all need these days. A too serious life leads to a dull life and miserable existance. Inclined to agree. However, the reporter's own opinion doesnt render everyone else's null and void. It's a public job so there is a wider context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 8 hours ago, phantom said: Is there a soundbite of the interview? One article says they were both laughing at the time Here is a very short snippet....she did seem to find it funny....but it was probably a silly thing to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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