Redstart Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Not looking to kick off a whole LJ debate here - just interested in whether people would welcome Nigel Clough here at City in any capacity. Personally I believe we have been lacking that 'Championship Manager' experience - I dont particularly like Clough as an individual but he does have vast experience of the Championship. He's done wonders at Burton with little financial backing and is someone I would love to see at the City as part of the management team in any capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Redstart said: Not looking to kick off a whole LJ debate here - just interested in whether people would welcome Nigel Clough here at City in any capacity. Personally I believe we have been lacking that 'Championship Manager' experience - I dont particularly like Clough as an individual but he does have vast experience of the Championship. He's done wonders at Burton with little financial backing and is someone I would love to see at the City as part of the management team in any capacity. No ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 He'd obviously be a step up from LJ but then so would just about anybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Had a good chance to make a impression at derby. Big fan base , big money to spend on wages and transfer fees. Didn't seem to work out at that would worry me as that job has similarities to the city job? Maybe works better with less pressure on him and smaller budgets and lower expectations? Sometimes managers and clubs just fit, burton and clough seem to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Redstart said: Not looking to kick off a whole LJ debate here - just interested in whether people would welcome Nigel Clough here at City in any capacity. Personally I believe we have been lacking that 'Championship Manager' experience - I dont particularly like Clough as an individual but he does have vast experience of the Championship. He's done wonders at Burton with little financial backing and is someone I would love to see at the City as part of the management team in any capacity. A great shout. Has built up his career on his own back whilst having to live in shadow of his old man's career. Got to respect that. I'd take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 If Burton get relegated that will add to his 100% failure rate at this level for Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: He'd obviously be a step up from LJ but then so would just about anybody! well thought out that is...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 A manager who achieves relegation with his current club is considered a step up? Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I've never been particularly impressed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 What a lovely player he was at Forest , clever football brain and could find the net. Never crossed my mind as a replacement for LJ, doing a decent job for Burton but a chequered CV so far. Mmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: If Burton get relegated that will add to his 100% failure rate at this level for Clough Bit harsh - Derby have been a shambles for years and nobody expected Burton to achieve what they have achieved this year - the points they have gained would have kept them up last year in a league in which many posters have commented on as being one of the hardest leagues to play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 To be fair, on the budget they have, he has done an incredible job to even get them close to survival. Rotherham probably have bigger budget and look what's happened to them. I'd be interested in getting him in should he become available although there may be some truth in what someone said above about him doing well at smaller clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City exile 79 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Spoons said: Had a good chance to make a impression at derby. Big fan base , big money to spend on wages and transfer fees. Didn't seem to work out at that would worry me as that job has similarities to the city job? Maybe works better with less pressure on him and smaller budgets and lower expectations? Sometimes managers and clubs just fit, burton and clough seem to. Agree with this. Also didn't he have a bigger budget than us when he managed Sheffield united. When we walked the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: I'd take him. Saucy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 39 minutes ago, The_Don said: A manager who achieves relegation with his current club is considered a step up? Not for me. Eh? Am I missing something? Clough's curent club is Burton Albion, I don't ever recall him being relegated with them, or Derby or Sheff Utd either. I'm confused. He also has on his CV two promotions including one to the Championship, an FA cup semi final appearance with a league 1 side and plenty of experience at this level. What has LJ got? Absolutely nothing. Of course Clough is a step up, even if he wouldnt be a man I'd be excited about having here. Just 10 days ago, people were talking about organising protests for LJs removal... Now I get challenged for suggesting a manager who has achieved a lot more is better than him. This forum mind!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Just now, Wanderingred said: Eh? Am I missing something? Clough's curent club is Burton Albion, I don't ever recall him being relegated with them, or Derby or Sheff Utd either. I'm confused. He also has on his CV two promotions including one to the Championship, an FA cup semi final appearance with a league 1 side and plenty of experience at this level. What has LJ got? Absolutely nothing. Of course Clough is a step up, even if he wouldnt be a man I'd be excited about having here. Just 10 days ago, people were talking about organising protests for LJs removal... Now I get challenged for suggesting a manager who has achieved a lot more is better than him. This forum mind!!! Yes you are missing something. The thread title clearly says if Burton are relegated. Has done nothing of note with the bigger clubs he has managed in the Championship, great job getting Burton into this league of course but would not be someone I'd like to see as LJ's replacement should the worst happen to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 We're staying up. LJ will be manager next season. Wake up and smell the coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Just now, The_Don said: Yes you are missing something. The thread title clearly says if Burton are relegated. Has done nothing of note with the bigger clubs he has managed in the Championship, great job getting Burton into this league of course but would not be someone I'd like to see as LJ's replacement should the worst happen to us. Fair enough I missed that, but I still dont think you've made a valid point. Nobody expected him to keep Burton up with their meagre resources. If they do end up going down, I wouldnt hold that as a huge failure on Cloughs part. The fact he has them in with a shout is remarkable imho. For the record, I wouldn't want him here either, I was merely saying that he would be a step up from LJ which I don't think anybody could really argue with given the evidence available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 We'll have a agree to disagree on this one mate, I stand by my opinion that Clough wouldn't be a step up for me. Not that it matters too much as LJ isn't going anywhere and rightly so if our performances continue in the same vein as the past three home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 We stay in the Championship, Lee stays with us. Simple. Unless some mad club comes in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Had a good chance to make a impression at derby. Big fan base , big money to spend on wages and transfer fees. Didn't seem to work out at that would worry me as that job has similarities to the city job? Maybe works better with less pressure on him and smaller budgets and lower expectations? Sometimes managers and clubs just fit, burton and clough seem to. This for me. Some managers just struggle when given more resources. I wouldnt want him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1) LJ is here for the foreseeable end of ...... B) The Derby failure , to me , is less worrying than SheffU. Big club in that division, amazed it's taken them so long to get back up. But , if we are to believe that LJ is going to be better because of this years experience, then why should we think it wouldn't work for Clough. That said, I'd be as excited about Clough coming here as I was LJ, says a lot really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: He'd obviously be a step up from LJ but then so would just about anybody! My 5 year old would be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 If LJ stays next season will be a disaster, I suspect something similar to 2011-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: If LJ stays next season will be a disaster, I suspect something similar to 2011-12. Unfortunately whatever happens he ain't going anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I take it nobody is too keen on the thought of them working together then (rather than an either or scenario). I agree that it is unlikely LJ will be going anywhere, so if that is taken as a given I would still like to see somebody on that City bench who has more Championship knowledge/experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 No better than Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Not for me, we missed a decent upgrade in Rowett. I wouldn't replace LJ with Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I'd snap your hand off for Clough. But then the same can be said for most managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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