Bristol Rob Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Is apparently getting a name change later this year to disassociate the venue with the slave trade. Do you care? Are you sick of apologising for the mistakes of generations past? Are they missing out of a chance to educate to show how far things go have come? Are they trying to airbrush history? What would you rename it as?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Coal Tons Hall. To commemorate Bristol's history as a port as it must have received shipments of coal at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 So the PC brigade, the moan about, protest about, the we're so righteous about everything lot... the right on historical apologists, lets bury our past and erase history .... the jumps on any bandwagon that rolls past people ... have got their way. Bristol's Colston Hall is to be renamed ... (the name Colston is apparently now ''toxic'') Well f ** k 'em its been a big part of all of our lives, for decades most of us have enjoyed many and varied evenings, concerts and happy times in our Colston Hall it is a genuine part of our own personal histories, and experiences. It's been affectionately known to me throughout my life as THE COLSTON HALL its like a cherished old friend... I wouldn't deny a past personal friendship with anyone and likewise for me The Colston Hall as part of my life will, as far as I'm concerned, always be an old friend and will forever remain Bristol's Colston Hall. While we're at it, the Council House on College Green will always be The Council House regardless of red trousers little ego trip .. City Hall pffft my yankee arse ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 It's named after a slave trader. The hall will still be there, but any links to a man with a heinous past will be abolished. A good thing in my view. Lets name places after people who have a proud history, not keep things in the past because you've been to a few great concerts there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournered Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I'm the guessing this means the street and school's will be re-named and statue removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 They could call it Cosgrove Hall and just host stage versions of Chorlton and the Wheelies, Jamie and the Magic Torch and Count Duckula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 will always been known as the Colston Hall regardless of what they change it to. Similar to that of the NEC and NIA in Birmingham. Neither of which are known as those anymore, but everyone still calls them as such. It does set a very dangerous precedent though. I'd like all Scandinavian names removed from the city in light of the Vikings. I'd like all Italian names removed from the city in light of the Roman Empire. I'd like all German names removed from the city in light of the Nazi's I'd like all Turkish names removed from the city in light of the Ottoman Empire I'd like all Russian names removed from the city in light of the Soviet atrocity's . I'd like all Iranian names removed from the city in light of the Persian Empire. and finally, and this will be the best one, i'd like all Indian, Pakistani, Yemen & Oman names removed from the city in light of their actions in the Arabic Slave Trade. Some more will come to me, feel free to add your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think it should be called "The Collis Hall" - after the famed extreme left poster on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 London's name was derived from Londinium - given to it by the Romans in the 1st century. Roman's had slaves. London must change it's name immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 My understanding is that it's named after him because he founded a school on the same site. It's not a memorial to the manner of business that he used to gather his wealth. He may have made money from a type of economy that we now regard as abhorrent but it's also clear that he was a philanthropist and great benefactor of the city of Bristol. See this extract from his biography: "He founded almshouses in King Street and on St. Michaels Hill, endowed Queen Elizabeth's Hospital school and helped found Colston's Hospital, a boarding school which opened in 1710 leaving an endowment to be managed by the Society of Merchant Venturers for its upkeep. He gave money to schools in Temple (one of which went on to become St Mary Redcliffe and Temple School) and other parts of Bristol, and to several churches and the cathedral. He was a strong Tory and high-churchman, and was returned as Member of Parliament (MP) for Bristol in 1710 for just one parliament." It's narrow minded to call for the renaming based purely on one aspect of the man's life and in ignorance of others. Also, "The Colston Hall" is a unique name. It instantly identifies the venue as being Bristolian. Hopefully the new name will be decided by online public vote and we can get Hally McHallface to the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry may Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 In a way though ,it's convenient for the current trustees , as they can now seek sponsorship to call the Colston Hall something else. Think of a big business in Bristol and they will surely bang in the naming rights, and that will cover the shortfall in funding. Having said that see some great gigs there over the years.Lost count of the amount of times I've seen Motorhead there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Suggested new names for modern times ... ...The George W Blair Hall (but its thought that one will be Trumped sometime soon) How about... The Green Pimp In Red Slacks Hall ? I might suggest .. The Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining Colston Hall (of The Hey Ho Silver Lining Colston Hall) Maybe ... The Kids Up The Chimney Hall or.. The Poor Sod's Workhouse Hall There's so much from the past that was acceptable, normal and legal but cruel then that seen through todays eyes are abhorrent ... For a man of his times (& a Tory to boot) Edward Colston did a heck of a lot for the less fortunate too, people today and for decades previous (of all walks of life and ethnicities are still benefiting from his philanthropic legacies). Anyway, in the great scheme of things despite the unfortunate trade from which his fortune came ... No one can say he was all bad there's a sizeably favourable side to him and for his name and memory to be regarded a 'toxic' without recognition of the good the man done is selectively unfair IMO. The Colston Hall it is ... and The Colston Hall it shall remain for many thousands of Bristolians inspite of any PC tinkering they want to throw at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 It isn't the Colston Hall anyway. Any Bristolian will tell you it's the Cole Snall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 minute ago, harry may said: In a way though ,it's convenient for the current trustees , as they can now seek sponsorship to call the Colston Hall something else. Think of a big business in Bristol and they will surely bang in the naming rights, and that will cover the shortfall in funding. Spot on - that's entirely what's behind the name change. My first reaction when I heard the announcement was "what?!" and that they'd given in to the minority regarding Colston's involvement with the slave trade but realised its a win win situation for the trustee's. They'll find commercial funding and get the minority whingers off their case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Where will it all end?, What next the Malcolm X centre?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think that the the Hall owners are using this as an opportunity to make money. Have no doubt that the name will be sold to the highest bidder. The EE Hall or Tesco Forums anyone? Keeping the name and the history is a part of people learning. If kids ask why its called the Colston Hall, parents/staff can then describe why and also mention that slavery is wrong. Renaming it removes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 It should be renamed after an ex Bristol Football manager. I don't like the sound of Holloway Hall so I vote S'OD 'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just heard this on Radio 5, utter garbage. Well at least for a couple of generations it will still be the Colston Hall as name changes are hard to implement when they are so established. Just like the Council House is, well, the Council House, non of theis City Hall nonsense for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Where will it all end?, What next the Malcolm X centre?. No - he was a Muslim and Islam is still actively involved in the slave trade. Most of the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were bought from Muslim slave traders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Where will it all end?, What next the Malcolm X centre?. I went to university at UMIST in Manchester in the 1980s. At the time, the main university's union building was the Steve Biko Building. The Poly had, if I recall, had the Mandela Building. UMIST followed this political correctness, and had the Barnes Wallis Building, He of bouncing bomb fame, not some anti-apartheid hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Directions to the PC named theatre... If you are approaching from COLSTON school, you'll find it on COLSTON Street, just behind COLSTON Tower..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: I went to university at UMIST in Manchester in the 1980s. At the time, the main university's union building was the Steve Biko Building. The Poly had, if I recall, had the Mandela Building. UMIST followed this political correctness, and had the Barnes Wallis Building, He of bouncing bomb fame, not some anti-apartheid hero. Dam right too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARJ Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Will this ever end? Will Blackboy Hill now become 'Non-Caucasian Hill'? What about Whiteladies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, SARJ said: Will this ever end? Will Blackboy Hill now become 'Non-Caucasian Hill'? What about Whiteladies? They have been targeted in a similar way too ... thankfully, so far, to no avail. They better keep their warped little eyes off of Christmas Steps too (surely only a matter of time? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Well, what I thinks is that we should call it Wurzel Hall in tribute to those cultural giants what we love and cherish. Maybe with a new logo of a gurt big cider apple. What is all this PC drivel about? Next they'll be telling us in the name of equality all cockerels will have to cry ***t a doodle do on alternate days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I vote for Trump Hall. No, not that Trump. Judd Trump obvs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I don't particularly support the name change but find it weird people are getting so worked up over this. Gig and concert venues change their names all the time and I can't help feeling that, if they decided to change their name to something for commercial reasons or just to modernise or whatever and it did not give an opportunity for people to jump on their high horses over political correctness, nobody would bat on eyelid. Ultimately the trustees have chosen to change the name. They're the trustees and that's their decision. I can't find any reason to have any more sympathy with the people who are insisting it should not be changed than the people who are insisting it should be changed. As far as I can see, both seem to be trying to insist they have the right to tell the trustees what it should or should not be called. They can call it what they like as far as I'm concerned and don't see why anyone else feels the need to involve themselves on either side of the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, harry may said: In a way though ,it's convenient for the current trustees , as they can now seek sponsorship to call the Colston Hall something else. Think of a big business in Bristol and they will surely bang in the naming rights, and that will cover the shortfall in funding. Having said that see some great gigs there over the years.Lost count of the amount of times I've seen Motorhead there. The Bristol Sport Hall anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, The Batman said: will always been known as the Colston Hall regardless of what they change it to. Similar to that of the NEC and NIA in Birmingham. Neither of which are known as those anymore, but everyone still calls them as such. It does set a very dangerous precedent though. I'd like all Scandinavian names removed from the city in light of the Vikings. I'd like all Italian names removed from the city in light of the Roman Empire. I'd like all German names removed from the city in light of the Nazi's I'd like all Turkish names removed from the city in light of the Ottoman Empire I'd like all Russian names removed from the city in light of the Soviet atrocity's . I'd like all Iranian names removed from the city in light of the Persian Empire. and finally, and this will be the best one, i'd like all Indian, Pakistani, Yemen & Oman names removed from the city in light of their actions in the Arabic Slave Trade. Some more will come to me, feel free to add your own. While we`re at it, anything that`s named after Cromwell, Drake, Raleigh, Wellington, any king or queen before 1900, anything with `church`, `rectory`, `vicarage, `priory` or `chapel` in the name (as these are overtly Christian and may offend people of other faiths or none), anything named after battles, anything with a colour in it`s name and anything named after anyone or thing that wasn`t as pure as the driven snow. What a world we live in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Another victory for the PC MOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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