Septic Peg Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, cityboy99 said: As long as it ain't on there team or you could even have it so they are not allowed to bet on there teams division i don't see why there not allowed to bet. Its the same as the way people moan about a player going out on the piss on there night off there human and just like the rest of us after all. We wanna have a cheeky flutter we can and anyone of us really could get a player to help us fix game's if we had the money and influence to do so. Technically insider trading if allowed to bet on a different team in a different league. Hypothetical now but if Joe Bloggs plays for Man U in the Prem but his mate plays for Fleetwood in L1, his mate could tell him about possible injuries/arguments/weaknesses in the Fleetwood team which would affect any bet placed on a Fleetwood match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, MichaelRobartes said: I do think he has a point about the hypocrisy of the FA and the PL being in bed with several bookmakers and allowing them to constantly shove adverts down everyone's throats, especially those ones with Ray Winstone which make me want to puke. No excuse for breaking the rules of course, but valid points all the same Agree wholeheartedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I must admit I`ve never seen the issue with backing your own team to win in fact haven`t there been chairmen in the past who`ve lumped a load on their team to get promoted and used the dosh to pay the players` promotion bonuses if it happened? I seem to remember the chairman of Burnley or Bradford or someone like that doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanjita Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 And to think there are people on this forum that would have been glad if we signed him, he's nothing but an embarrassment to the game and I for one hope it's the last we see of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Not a good day for Mr Barton, allegedly his agent is heavily involved in this Newcastle/West Ham thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Not a good day for Mr Barton, allegedly his agent is heavily involved in this Newcastle/West Ham thing. He has played for both hasn`t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: He has played for both hasn`t he? West Ham pulled out of the deal due to a fans backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Do I feel sorry for him? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 52 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: He has played for both hasn`t he? Just Newcastle. However he spent time on loan at Marseille, who are also implicated according to various sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 The man really is a bell-end of the highest order. Was just reading the story on the Guardian, and see something of a conflict between: The 34-year-old, currently registered as a player with Burnley in the Premier League, accepted Football Association charges that accused him of having placed 1,260 bets on football matches between 2006 and 2013. This figure included at least five matches in which Barton was a player. Professional footballers are banned from making any bets on their own sport. and this: he said, “[....]. To be clear from the outset here this is not match fixing and at no point in any of this is my integrity in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Taz said: Just seen that he's been banned for 18 months for breaking betting regulations. Also banned for all football activities. Seems like football's being hit today, what with this and the goings on with West Ham and Newcastle!! serves him right - he knew the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Barton clearly has an addiction problem. It is a mental illness. Come on folks this is 2017 and he needs help. Have you all missed the two Princes' campaign There is far too much betting around football, especially tv betting on Sky. In my opinion this should be banned. Any one of us, given certain circumstances, could find ourselves in Barton's position. Why did his clubs not give help? The answer I suppose is they are just as guilty as the majority of firms in this country who do not react positively, if at all, to mental health problems I have never met the guy, but I feel nothing but sorrow for the position he finds himself in. I hope he gets the help he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, Ivorguy said: Barton clearly has an addiction problem. It is a mental illness. Come on folks this is 2017 and he needs help. Have you all missed the two Princes' campaign There is far too much betting around football, especially tv betting on Sky. In my opinion this should be banned. Any one of us, given certain circumstances, could find ourselves in Barton's position. Why did his clubs not give help? The answer I suppose is they are just as guilty as the majority of firms in this country who do not react positively, if at all, to mental health problems I have never met the guy, but I feel nothing but sorrow for the position he finds himself in. I hope he gets the help he needs. Not sure he will want it - as he could have done it before if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, iamsober said: Not sure he will want it - as he could have done it before if he did. Really not that easy. Part of the whole problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 He would of been better off taking a load of drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Septic Peg said: He might be a bellend but he obviously has an issue with gambling. I hope he gets the help he needs. Perhaps when he does, he can become a better person in general and not just the arrogant tit we all see. A couple of bets a week over a 10 year period. Is that a problem? My apologies if he does have a problem, I wasnt aware that he has an addiction as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: A couple of bets a week over a 10 year period. Is that a problem? My apologies if he does have a problem, I wasnt aware that he has an addiction as such. your right. But he may have a problem - people on here are guessing as usual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 He should have had a lifetime ban for stubbing a cigar in some kid's eye, the whey faced, ratboy brute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, iamsober said: your right. But he may have a problem - people on here are guessing as usual! Just read his statement and he admits he has a problem. But there is so much one can bet on why not ignore football! I agree he needs help and it looks like early retirement for him so needs help soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Northern Red said: Looks like they've thrown the book at him. If it was by Nietzsche, he'd claim to have read it. I've only heard of Nietzsche because a reference was made to reading Nietzsche in 'Coming to America'. Intellectual that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 When they say `no involvement in football` where does that stop? Could he for instance be a Sky pundit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, Red Right Hand said: When they say `no involvement in football` where does that stop? Could he for instance be a Sky pundit? It relates to betting I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 6 hours ago, MichaelRobartes said: I do think he has a point about the hypocrisy of the FA and the PL being in bed with several bookmakers and allowing them to constantly shove adverts down everyone's throats, especially those ones with Ray Winstone which make me want to puke. No excuse for breaking the rules of course, but valid points all the same. I disagree with this. I'm a ROI fan and whilst it's extremely irksome to lose your captain it's unlucky. Obviously not a great tackle but not worthy of a longer ban under the current rules. Surprised that Ramos only got one game, wasn't it a straight red? Just think they should start issuing some 3 or even four games for some of the outrageous tackles , Taylor's being one if not intentional Ramis's was as bad if not worse than Taylor's but luckily Messi was skilful enough to save himself and was a straight red !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: He should have had a lifetime ban for stubbing a cigar in some kid's eye, the whey faced, ratboy brute. While Barton is a ***** of the highest order, reading up on said player, someone should do alot worse to him now. A right scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 The only part I agree with is that the FA doesn't do enough to help with people with potential gambling addictions and that its a case of they just punish those who do it instead. However to bet on your own league let alone your own team yourself to score first as he did is just idiotic, while it would still be banned if he'd just bet on say Australian football or something where he has no influence the FA may have taken a different view of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emjay Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 All those calling him obscenities and having no sympathy obviously have no concept of addictions. You cannot apply rational logic to this, it just doesn't work. Whilst I agree he's made a lot of mistakes throughout his career, you cannot underestimate the power of an addiction. It doesn't matter about his status or earnings, it's like a disease, just like alcoholism. Everyone saying Barton is the lowest form of life, but when everyone knew about Gazza's alcohol addiction they just felt sad and sympathetic and wanted him to get better. Just saying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Emjay said: All those calling him obscenities and having no sympathy obviously have no concept of addictions. You cannot apply rational logic to this, it just doesn't work. Whilst I agree he's made a lot of mistakes throughout his career, you cannot underestimate the power of an addiction. It doesn't matter about his status or earnings, it's like a disease, just like alcoholism. Everyone saying Barton is the lowest form of life, but when everyone knew about Gazza's alcohol addiction they just felt sad and sympathetic and wanted him to get better. Just saying..... Whilst I do agree to some extent, I think peoples opinions of Barton are already low due to his previous exploits. The cigar incident comes to mind immediately. He's just not a likeable bloke, and it's as if he almost has to be in the media for something other than football, as he isn't at the same level as your Scholes', Beckham's, Messi's and Ronaldos. I hope he gets the help he needs for his own sake. He is still a knob though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 27, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Emjay said: All those calling him obscenities and having no sympathy obviously have no concept of addictions. You cannot apply rational logic to this, it just doesn't work. Whilst I agree he's made a lot of mistakes throughout his career, you cannot underestimate the power of an addiction. It doesn't matter about his status or earnings, it's like a disease, just like alcoholism. Everyone saying Barton is the lowest form of life, but when everyone knew about Gazza's alcohol addiction they just felt sad and sympathetic and wanted him to get better. Just saying..... Very true @Emjay What is interesting when a popular player (Paul Merson) came out with his problems the FA / PFA couldn't do enough to help him An un-popular player (Joey Barton) gets banned, basically finishes his career and is now open to bet on anything in football he wants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I wonder why he has a problem with gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I wonder why he has a problem with gambling Did he also have a thing for Puma clothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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