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9 hours ago, cityexile said:

If Birmingham fans storm the pitch at fhe end, if everyone is happy, do we just smile? Sounds like it might not end well?

http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,2220339

How will they do this? There will be a thick, blue line of Avon & Somerset's finest all the way across in front of them, won't there? And a line of stewards, too, if necessary. A heavy and obvious police presence throughout.

The police will be proactive not reactive will they not? And plentiful.

 

The club have put on the website that 15% of the crowd are under 12s - the future generation of City fans - so they will want the police to do their job properly (having paid/organised for more than enough to do so, presumably? Pitch invasions on the last day of the season for sides with everything to play for are not unheard of) and that none of those youngsters have an off-putting experience. 

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Phenomenal and slightly bizarre attendance for an almost meaningless fixture for us!  A combination of factors I suppose; cheap tickets, sold out away end, some away fans inevitably in the home end, last day, City in form, potential to relegate the opposition.  It should have a real sense of occasion now - can't wait!

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1 minute ago, cityloyal473 said:

Can't help but think there's a LOT of brummies in amongst the home end.  This is a nothing game for us; its absolutely huge for them.  

I can't help but think this is the most reasonable explanation for selling out, although of course the ticket price helps.

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5 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I can't help but think this is the most reasonable explanation for selling out, although of course the ticket price helps.

Why is it so strange? We had 22,000 home fans against Blackburn, I know many going down on Sunday who aren't regulars, my son for one and 4 of his mates

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16 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I can't help but think this is the most reasonable explanation for selling out, although of course the ticket price helps.

Undoubtedly there will be some Birmingham fans in the home areas, particularly the Upper Lansdown. However, like 'Harrys', I know several people who are attending this one who dont go regularly but are always there for Wembley trips, Play Off matches etc.

I think it's just one of those games that a lot of people really want to attend, there's a nice relaxed feel to the match now we're safe, our form is good, prices are reasonable and we all want to give Tammy a good send off. 

 

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17 minutes ago, phantom said:

So what if there any Brum fans in the home stands - why is everyone so afraid of them this week!?!?!

Like Blagdon says it's more to do with sensible pricing - just shows lowering the price does work

I don't think it's so much being 'afraid of them'.

I am taking my two kids down and will be in the Upper Lansdown. My concern is seeing an away fan 'escorted' down the stairs by City fans in front of my two, who in turn won't want to come again. As a result it's more 'cautious of us'

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42 minutes ago, LC_ said:

anyone know - if the full stadium capacity is around 27k, where does the 1ishk disappear to? Is that the cordoned off area between home and away fans in the Atyeo?

Atyeo capacity is 4,240. So if Brum have sold 2,500 and we have 1,000 in there we have lost 740 for segregation.

Apparently the capacity is 27,699. We know the segregation in the Atyeo impacts in this by 740 and therefore reduces the availability to 27K...so there must be another 1.6K of seats which can't be released for safety reasons. How many of those are in the top tier?

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1 hour ago, harrys said:

Why is it so strange? We had 22,000 home fans against Blackburn, I know many going down on Sunday who aren't regulars, my son for one and 4 of his mates

Not so much strange as surprising. This game has a lot more away fans attending than the Blackburn game but even so, we've sold another 1000 or so home tickets. I think it's still surprising to sell out what is little more than an exhibition match for us. The Blackburn game was even cheaper (£10) and had more riding on it.

I think there has also been a snowball effect as it's become clear that it was going to be a big attendance - that in turn has then encouraged more to come. As I said above, a combination of factors.

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Just now, WestonRobin said:

Atyeo capacity is 4,240. So if Brum have sold 2,500 and we have 1,000 in there we have lost 740 for segregation.

Apparently the capacity is 27,699. We know the segregation in the Atyeo impacts in this by 740 and therefore reduces the availability to 27K...so there must be another 1.6K of seats which can't be released for safety reasons. How many of those are in the top tier?

I think you've overstated total capacity there. Aside from segregation I don't think there are other "safety reasons" any more - as far as I can see there's no reason why every single ticket in the Lansdown can't be sold.

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Just now, WestonRobin said:

Atyeo capacity is 4,240. So if Brum have sold 2,500 and we have 1,000 in there we have lost 740 for segregation.

Apparently the capacity is 27,699. We know the segregation in the Atyeo impacts in this by 740 and therefore reduces the availability to 27K...so there must be another 1.6K of seats which can't be released for safety reasons. How many of those are in the top tier?

Not sure where you are getting your figures from..?

I believe our stadium houses 26,600 odd seats. 

Sold out at 25,400 = 1,200 for segregation (750) and other small areas that can't be sold here and there, for whatever reason (SAG I guess) 

 

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I think you've overstated total capacity there. Aside from segregation I don't think there are other "safety reasons" any more - as far as I can see there's no reason why every single ticket in the Lansdown can't be sold.

Screen shot taken earlier in the season from the website when M KELLY asked City fans to vote for redevelopment 

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3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Not sure where you are getting your figures from..?

I believe our stadium houses 26,600 odd seats. 

Sold out at 25,400 = 1,200 for segregation (750) and other small areas that can't be sold here and there, for whatever reason (SAG I guess) 

 

See above response.

The screen shot also matches the detail from the link someone supplied yesterday (earlier in the thread).

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5 minutes ago, WestonRobin said:

See above response.

The screen shot also matches the detail from the link someone supplied yesterday (earlier in the thread).

Ah right. I believe those details are incorrect, judging by the article on the OS yesterday. 

Unless (and quite likely) that for some season the max capacity for football is actually lower than the actual max capacity. 

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3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Ah right. I believe those details are incorrect, judging by the article on the OS yesterday. 

Unless (and quite likely) that for some season the max capacity for football is actually lower than the actual max capacity. 

I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head there. 

Suspect there are reasons why we aren't able to fill every seat...with the exception of segregation I can't think what that would be in a newly developed ground. Surely they take input from H&S before both design and building?

I'm sure I've read somewhere that some rows in the top tier haven't been sold and won't be sold for the game...no idea how many but disappointingly that has had an impact. Could have easily smashed 26K if they were sold

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2 hours ago, Super said:

Amazing considering it's a meaningless game for us. Great stuff and giving Tammy a great send off.

I'd like to think that the great support for this game has got something to do with this! He's been an absolute joy to watch this season, and without the lay off with injury and a little bit more composure in front of goal (that's not knocking him :)) he'd be well into the thirty's, which is quite unbelievable for a 19 year olds first taste of Championship football. 

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1 hour ago, phantom said:

So what if there any Brum fans in the home stands - why is everyone so afraid of them this week!?!?!

 

Because many people are taking small kids along, some for their first game? Might be something to do with it. It is £1 (plus booking fee) for Under 12s.

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Clearly here a difference has to be made between the number of seats that physically exist in the stadium and the number that, for any given game, can be made available for sale.

At the SC&T meeting on Wednesday, it was explained by Mark Kelly and Adam Baker that for this game, for instance, there are a number of seats, in addition to the segregation, not able to be sold in the Atyeo. There were also some not put on sale, for safety reasons, at the Atyeo end of the West Stand. Additionally, the seats removed at back of the Dolman for TV/press have not yet all been replaced. Etc., etc. It all adds up.

The fact is, however, that all seats that could be sold for the game, have been sold.

And that underlines, as I mentioned earlier, what an impact fair pricing can have on demand. Something that I hope BS will remember when it comes to future pricing.

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