ExiledAjax Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: When did football become this complicated !!!! Doesnt a balance sheet and a league table do the same job !! Not really. A league table and a balance sheet tell you what the situation is in the present, based upon a summary of the recent and relevant past. These stats take the past, analyse it, and use that analysis to try to explain the state of the present and sometimes to predict the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: PS. Hopefully E361 does a "points lost from winning positions" chart. He did one for L1...I suspect we may be near the top of that particular little table. 1 1 Here is points lost from a winning position (from a different source) # Club Times leading Wins Draws Losses 1 Newcastle United 34 29 4 1 2 Brighton & Hove Albion 32 28 3 1 3 Reading FC 28 26 1 1 4 Sheffield Wednesday 30 24 4 2 5 Huddersfield Town 30 25 4 1 6 Fulham FC 31 22 7 2 7 Leeds United 26 22 3 1 8 Norwich City 29 20 7 2 9 Derby County 26 18 5 3 10 Brentford FC 25 18 2 5 11 Preston North End 22 16 5 1 12 Cardiff City 26 17 7 2 13 Aston Villa 27 16 9 2 14 Barnsley FC 25 15 5 5 15 Wolverhampton Wanderers 20 16 2 2 16 Ipswich Town 21 13 7 1 17 Bristol City 23 15 4 4 18 Queens Park Rangers 20 15 3 2 19 Birmingham City 21 13 5 3 20 Burton Albion 18 13 3 2 21 Nottingham Forest 25 14 6 5 22 Blackburn Rovers 19 12 6 1 23 Wigan Athletic 16 10 2 4 24 Rotherham United 18 5 7 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 And then points after going behind. (source) # Club deficits Wins Draws Losses Points 1 Fulham FC 26 6 10 10 28 2 Cardiff City 26 6 2 18 20 3 Blackburn Rovers 31 3 9 19 18 4 Bristol City 31 4 5 22 17 5 Nottingham Forest 31 4 4 23 16 6 Sheffield Wednesday 20 4 3 13 15 7 Brighton & Hove Albion 17 3 5 9 14 8 Preston North End 26 2 8 16 14 9 Reading FC 20 3 4 13 13 10 Barnsley FC 25 3 4 18 13 11 Wolverhampton Wanderers 27 3 4 20 13 12 Huddersfield Town 20 3 2 15 11 13 Derby County 22 2 5 15 11 14 Brentford FC 25 2 5 18 11 15 Burton Albion 27 1 6 20 9 16 Wigan Athletic 29 2 3 24 9 17 Newcastle United 14 2 2 10 8 18 Leeds United 21 1 5 15 8 19 Ipswich Town 23 1 5 17 8 20 Birmingham City 25 1 5 19 8 21 Norwich City 21 1 4 16 7 22 Aston Villa 21 1 4 16 7 23 Queens Park Rangers 28 1 4 23 7 24 Rotherham United 36 0 3 33 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 @RichardEdd Interesting, I didn't realise transkermarkt tracked this stuff. So we lost 4 times out of 23 leads (joint 3rd worst). Plus we only gained 17 points back after going behind (4th worst). I suspect these stats are skewed by a few late losses and draws. However, it does show that we were proved fragile throughout the season. E361 plays around with this sort of stuff so it'll be interesting to see if he does something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, ExiledAjax said: Plus we only gained 17 points back after going behind (4th worst). 4th best surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 @RichardEdd @View from the Dolman - sorry if you guys aren't interested - but E361 delivered. Below are his tables for points won from winning positions and points won from losing positions. Long story short: we were pretty crap at closing games out, but actually weren't that bad at salvaging something from a losing position. Taking only 71% of the possible points from winning positions put us in the bottom third of that table. Successful teams are looking at 80% plus (although note QPR and Wolves being outliers in that). Anyway, interesting tables that contextualise the raw data that @RichardEdd found on transfermarkt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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