downendcity Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Listened to Talksport on the way home this afternoon, and they were discussing Zlatan's wages, that have been disclosed as £19m pa. They also discussed that Pogba's agent trousered £41m - YES FORTY ONE MILLION POUNDS - as his cut of the transfer to Man U, which is more than Juventus received!!!!!!!!! They then went on to say that as Pogba is only on £160,000 per week so looking at what Zlatan gets paid and what his agent picked up for the transfer deal, should Pogba get a new agent! Has the money in football gone completely mad and where do we think it will all end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, downendcity said: Listened to Talksport on the way home this afternoon, and they were discussing Zlatan's wages, that have been disclosed as £19m pa. They also discussed that Pogba's agent trousered £41m - YES FORTY ONE MILLION POUNDS - as his cut of the transfer to Man U, which is more than Juventus received!!!!!!!!! They then went on to say that as Pogba is only on £160,000 per week so looking at what Zlatan gets paid and what his agent picked up for the transfer deal, should Pogba get a new agent! Has the money in football gone completely mad and where do we think it will all end? in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, downendcity said: Listened to Talksport on the way home this afternoon, and they were discussing Zlatan's wages, that have been disclosed as £19m pa. They also discussed that Pogba's agent trousered £41m - YES FORTY ONE MILLION POUNDS - as his cut of the transfer to Man U, which is more than Juventus received!!!!!!!!! They then went on to say that as Pogba is only on £160,000 per week so looking at what Zlatan gets paid and what his agent picked up for the transfer deal, should Pogba get a new agent! Has the money in football gone completely mad and where do we think it will all end? I kind of get the wage difference between Zlatan and Pogba given that there was no initial outlay for Zlatan as opposed to £89m for Pogba. Therefore it's more money they can pay in wages to Zlatan who even at his age would still set a club back £10-£15m in a transfer fee. Having said that football went mad a long time ago, well before these two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC_ Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 The agent hasn't done well for Pogba IMO (though very well for himself!) if Rooney is on 300k, coming in as a club record buy I'd be expecting to be the best paid if not very close to it. The money in the game is obscene, but until the tv deals dry up nothing is going to change. Within 10 years time we'll end up with a European super league of the richest clubs, with half our lower league teams folding. I personally think the standard of our premier league is dire compared with 10-15 years ago. I don't think it's a coincidence the quality has gone down as the salaries have gone up. Many players are millionaires by the time they make a first team appearance, once the money is in their pockets they lose the drive to prove themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Listened to Talksport on the way home this afternoon, and they were discussing Zlatan's wages, that have been disclosed as £19m pa. They also discussed that Pogba's agent trousered £41m - YES FORTY ONE MILLION POUNDS - as his cut of the transfer to Man U, which is more than Juventus received!!!!!!!!! They then went on to say that as Pogba is only on £160,000 per week so looking at what Zlatan gets paid and what his agent picked up for the transfer deal, should Pogba get a new agent! Has the money in football gone completely mad and where do we think it will all end? I listened to this today and had to pull over in my postie van just to double check I heard it right! How the hell is a agent worth £41 million ?? Also how is a 35 year old who plays in a team who will Probaly finish 5th and a league cup medal and possibly 2nd rate european cup worth £367,000 a week!! Why man utd didn't just tell pogba to do one if it meant that his agents gettin more than juventus I don't know! His form hasn't matched his price tag either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think the biggest superstars deserve high wages - people like Messi and Ronaldo bring a monumental amount of kudos/publicity to their clubs, so why not. It's no different to film stars getting megabucks. But when you see bang average players like Jesse Lingard getting 100k a week, that's a different kettle of fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 They could have saved themselves plenty by not signing him and playing Rashford more. Still that is standard bourinho never been interested in bringing through youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, LC_ said: The agent hasn't done well for Pogba IMO (though very well for himself!) if Rooney is on 300k, coming in as a club record buy I'd be expecting to be the best paid if not very close to it. The money in the game is obscene, but until the tv deals dry up nothing is going to change. Within 10 years time we'll end up with a European super league of the richest clubs, with half our lower league teams folding. I personally think the standard of our premier league is dire compared with 10-15 years ago. I don't think it's a coincidence the quality has gone down as the salaries have gone up. Many players are millionaires by the time they make a first team appearance, once the money is in their pockets they lose the drive to prove themselves. This is exactly what Southgate has said this last week. I also think that young English players are more guilty of this than foreign youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, Spoons said: I listened to this today and had to pull over in my postie van just to double check I heard it right! How the hell is a agent worth £41 million ?? Also how is a 35 year old who plays in a team who will Probaly finish 5th and a league cup medal and possibly 2nd rate european cup worth £367,000 a week!! Why man utd didn't just tell pogba to do one if it meant that his agents gettin more than juventus I don't know! His form hasn't matched his price tag either! The other thing I can't get my head around is , if the agent is acting for Pogba, how the hell is a club dishing out £41m to pay his agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournered Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Super said: They could have saved themselves plenty by not signing him and playing Rashford more. Still that is standard bourinho never been interested in bringing through youngsters. You do realise Rashford's made 49 apps this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, winterbournered said: You do realise Rashford's made 49 apps this season... How many starts? And how many times up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournered Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: How many starts? And how many times up front? 28 and not a clue, but he has played and played a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Pogba isn't even the best CDM at Man u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 ÇJuve sure did well out of it though! Signed him on free, signed Pjanic and Higuain partly paid for by Pogba and have gone up a level. Struggle to believe agent made more than them though. 89 million in total. 41 million to Raiola is staggering however! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, winterbournered said: 28 and not a clue, but he has played and played a lot. When zlatan played rashford was on the right or the left and was pretty poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, LC_ said: The agent hasn't done well for Pogba IMO (though very well for himself!) if Rooney is on 300k, coming in as a club record buy I'd be expecting to be the best paid if not very close to it. The money in the game is obscene, but until the tv deals dry up nothing is going to change. Within 10 years time we'll end up with a European super league of the richest clubs, with half our lower league teams folding. I personally think the standard of our premier league is dire compared with 10-15 years ago. I don't think it's a coincidence the quality has gone down as the salaries have gone up. Many players are millionaires by the time they make a first team appearance, once the money is in their pockets they lose the drive to prove themselves. Which is why we love Tammy so much, he just isn`t like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, LC_ said: The agent hasn't done well for Pogba IMO (though very well for himself!) if Rooney is on 300k, coming in as a club record buy I'd be expecting to be the best paid if not very close to it. The money in the game is obscene, but until the tv deals dry up nothing is going to change. Within 10 years time we'll end up with a European super league of the richest clubs, with half our lower league teams folding. I personally think the standard of our premier league is dire compared with 10-15 years ago. I don't think it's a coincidence the quality has gone down as the salaries have gone up. Many players are millionaires by the time they make a first team appearance, once the money is in their pockets they lose the drive to prove themselves. Depends if a lump of that £41 million finds its way back to Pogba ( Hypothetically of course ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just read the article from chris Sutton in the daily mail sport about Ztlans goal bonus! Wow to say I'm shocked is a understatement ! I know players are paid lots but a wage of £367,000 a week is a joke but £147,000 a goal ! This just makes me feel sick to my stomach ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, Spoons said: Just read the article from chris Sutton in the daily mail sport about Ztlans goal bonus! Wow to say I'm shocked is a understatement ! I know players are paid lots but a wage of £367,000 a week is a joke but £147,000 a goal ! This just makes me feel sick to my stomach ! £147000 a goal Jesus wept Youd make sure you were on pens wouldn't you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: £147000 a goal Jesus wept Youd make sure you were on pens wouldn't you ! He started of on £47,000 a goal 1-5, he only gets £147,000 after he's scored 18 plus goals! It's scary! Chris Sutton said in the article when Chelsea signed him he was paid £500 for scoring in a game , not per goal! That wasn't all that long ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm appalled at the amounts we alledgedly pay Tomlin and O'Neil. So I guess I'm rather glad I'm not a Man Utd fan. Exactly at what point do you become so wealthy that it really doesn't matter how many extra noughts they add on. With all the money pouring into football in this country there is no excuse for not having the worlds best funded product from grass roots up. But apart from a few relatively well run clubs, the money just rolls off the top back to players, agents and the like. The sooner the tv money dries up the better football in this country might be. Maybe. It will probably swallow its tail before exploding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chile Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I think the biggest superstars deserve high wages - people like Messi and Ronaldo bring a monumental amount of kudos/publicity to their clubs, so why not. It's no different to film stars getting megabucks. But when you see bang average players like Jesse Lingard getting 100k a week, that's a different kettle of fish That's the biggest problem. Value is completely misunderstood. Ronaldo, Messi etc are worth every penny. All the money in football is generated by a handful of players and the good, average and below average (and agents!) tag on to that. It would make sense to have one or two marquee positions per squad for the genuine superstars that you can pay what you want, and then salary caps for the rest of the squad that don't actually generate almost any revenue for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just seen that FIFA is investigating the Pogba transfer. I wonder what they're looking at and any potential outcome. Apparently his agent was employed by Juve , Utd and Pogba and he played Juve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, LC_ said: The agent hasn't done well for Pogba IMO (though very well for himself!) if Rooney is on 300k, coming in as a club record buy I'd be expecting to be the best paid if not very close to it. The money in the game is obscene, but until the tv deals dry up nothing is going to change. Within 10 years time we'll end up with a European super league of the richest clubs, with half our lower league teams folding. I personally think the standard of our premier league is dire compared with 10-15 years ago. I don't think it's a coincidence the quality has gone down as the salaries have gone up. Many players are millionaires by the time they make a first team appearance, once the money is in their pockets they lose the drive to prove themselves. I'm not being funny and he's obviously a top guy, but Tammy came here as a relative unknown, already earning £1.2million a year. Without having scored a single top flight goal, he's about to have that doubled to £2.4million a year. He's not even started a game for his own club yet, but he's still guaranteed to have earned £10million by the time he's 22!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Pretty sure Zlatan and Pogba have the same agent? Remember hearing Zlatan say in an interview he wanted his agent (and therefore Pogba's) to get him a deal to Man U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 hours ago, CheddarReds said: Pretty sure Zlatan and Pogba have the same agent? Remember hearing Zlatan say in an interview he wanted his agent (and therefore Pogba's) to get him a deal to Man U Yeh they do. He's also the agent of Mkhitaryan and Sergio Romero. Don't think I've ever heard of 3 players who all have the same agent go to the same club in the same window. It's being reported in the press that Raiola was indeed illegally employed by Juve , Utd and Pogba and he could be banned from football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 You would hope that both Juventus and Man Utd would be punished as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 The moral of the story is to become a football agent. What's the pathway to such a lucrative profession? Start up a small company now, try to sign up a host of young talented footballers from SW academies and hope 1 or 2 turn into megastars, or even just average stars. OTIB football agency anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 The problem is that when the prem signs the latest big money TV deal the agent of every top player is immediately meeting with their player's chair,man/owner/chief exec demanding their click of that bigger pie. As far as the wider game is concerned ( and indeed the clubs themselves) pretty well all of the increased tv money has gone into the packets of players and their agents, leaving nothing for clubs or further development of the game. As Ive said in another post on this issue, if an agent is acting for a player then why is a club or clubs paying the agent a fee? I feel that so much of this is the Emperor's new clothes - everyone can see that it's bonkers except the people in the game. Unfortunately the money , especially at the top of the game, is now so huge and the rewards for success so great, that owners will do and pay what agents demand if they think it will bring success. As Durham siad on TS yesterday, while Man U can easily afford to pay Zlatan what he gets, in so doing they have created a problem for every other club, as creates the benchmark against which every agent will measure their player, so the wages of all players will increase accordingly. Lingard is a good player, but £100,000 per week - really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound Lane Red Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 FIFA have reportedly sacked the entire ethics committee. No one involved wants the gravy train derailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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