WRERE Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Now I think football has truly gone mad. Madrid are about to sign a 16 year old called Vinícius Júnior who has yet to play a professional first team game for a total of €61m. He played in the 2017 South American Under-17 Football Championship a few months ago and scored 7 goals , taking his total youth international tally to 6 in 6 for the U15's and 19 in 22 for the U17s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well after hearing today that Pogba's agent got more than £40m out of his client's move to Man U and Ibrahimovic is on £367k a week - absolutely nothing will surprise me anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well they're basically buying an 18 year old because he can't go there until he's an adult, so they're almost banking on him being even better in 2 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Shtanley said: Well they're basically buying an 18 year old because he can't go there until he's an adult, so they're almost banking on him being even better in 2 years time. A lot can change in two years !!! Football littered with 'the next starlet' list who then dissapeared ! Hell of a gamble however good he is right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wonder if Real have bought anyone from that club where its been a bit dodgy so this inflated fee is payment to keep things quiet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, hodge said: Wonder if Real have bought anyone from that club where its been a bit dodgy so this inflated fee is payment to keep things quiet... I was going to ask where the 61 million is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, downendcity said: I was going to ask where the 61 million is going. Paul Pogba's agent is getting €57m of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, downendcity said: I was going to ask where the 61 million is going. €45m to his club Flamengo , €8m to him as a salary and €8m to another company as commission plus Madrid have agreed with Flamengo that he's to be called up and played in their first team until he moves when he's 18. There's no doubt he's talented but it's such a big amount of money for someone so young and it can only give him so much pressure. You see stuff wrote about Ødegaard in their papers saying he won't make it etc and he's only 18 and was signed for a lot less, so I can't imagine what it will be like for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Maybe Lansdown and Lee might scupper the deal he sounds like he has the right DNA and deffo one for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 7 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Well after hearing today that Pogba's agent got more than £40m out of his client's move to Man U and Ibrahimovic is on £367k a week - absolutely nothing will surprise me anymore... The Pogba deal was the nail in the PL coffin imho. It was basically engineered by Adidas, I think I read somewhere that almost half of the deal was paid for by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 hours ago, WRERE said: €45m to his club Flamengo , €8m to him as a salary and €8m to another company as commission plus Madrid have agreed with Flamengo that he's to be called up and played in their first team until he moves when he's 18. There's no doubt he's talented but it's such a big amount of money for someone so young and it can only give him so much pressure. You see stuff wrote about Ødegaard in their papers saying he won't make it etc and he's only 18 and was signed for a lot less, so I can't imagine what it will be like for this guy. Shocking. He must be absolutely unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: The Pogba deal was the nail in the PL coffin imho. It was basically engineered by Adidas, I think I read somewhere that almost half of the deal was paid for by them. I thought similar; Pogba was just not that good a player. Messi, Bale, Ronaldo are world class. Whether world class means £30m, £50m, or £100m is up for debate but these are exceptional players. Pogba isn't any such thing, he's an above average Premiership midfielder. £20m maybe stretching to £30m if desperate. £100m was so far above the market price for him that there should have been an FA enquiry why so much money was changing hands and where it was all going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 after that ball boys first touch at the weekend by the lansdown I'm surprised they aren't in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 So, am I alone in coming to a crossroads about continuing to watch City who have a great owner (City fan, ultra- successful businessman and proven judge of characters) when the current football debate between EPL and EFL is all about 'money'. If you have followed the tweets this week Accrington are accusing the EPL (owners) of ruining the game/ sport we at BCFC are surely aiming to become part of. I really don't know today if I'd rather watch City in a competitive Championship season (going to most games, home and away) or join this mad business of EPL Your thoughts please? Already EPL have hit back to poor little Accrington ( when you go there it is probably closer to the roots most if us come from than Old Trafford or Chelski are today) asking if the EFL clubs want to stop receiving the current meagre 'funding' EPL does provide. A tough one but clearly we are all today backing City and SL to take us to the EPL but we should think about what we really wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Faith Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 I have never seen City play in the top division. It's not about getting to the Permier League because it's so great or the best league in the world as it sees itself. For me it is about seeing City playing at the top level, it is just unfortunate that the top level is one of the most overhyped 'products' in the world which is now focused on making as much money as possble for people who don't really care about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 KtF fair point.I saw all 4 seasons in top flight and know many Bournemouth fans who have endured a mixed bag over the 20 or so years are just ' in heaven' at present So, I totally get that and, as I said we are, in buying STs and going every game, backing City and SL to get us to the top flight. Perhaps we just have to shrug off the stupid amounts of money at Real and in the EFL. Here in Hampshire, an amateur player has to pay match fees ( fair) plus £25 for a red card plus a fortune to appeal as Hants FA squeeze every penny out of grass roots so the EPL seems a million miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 16 hours ago, Shtanley said: Well they're basically buying an 18 year old because he can't go there until he's an adult, so they're almost banking on him being even better in 2 years time. I've just two words to say ; But I've forgotten what they are . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Marvin Brown . Knew it was there somewhere . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 16 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Well after hearing today that Pogba's agent got more than £40m out of his client's move to Man U and Ibrahimovic is on £367k a week - absolutely nothing will surprise me anymore... Kind of puts us spending £12m total and stretching to £10k+pw for players wages into perspective really. One division below them yet the gulf might as well be six with those figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 We'd buy a 61 year old for £16m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I've just two words to say ; But I've forgotten what they are . memory loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Alessandro said: Kind of puts us spending £12m total and stretching to £10k+pw for players wages into perspective really. One division below them yet the gulf might as well be six with those figures. Yep and I didn't realise that with his goals bonus Zlatan is actually earning £423k a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yep and I didn't realise that with his goals bonus Zlatan is actually earning £423k a week! Or on a hat trick week he could rake in app £700k !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: I thought similar; Pogba was just not that good a player. Messi, Bale, Ronaldo are world class. Whether world class means £30m, £50m, or £100m is up for debate but these are exceptional players. Pogba isn't any such thing, he's an above average Premiership midfielder. £20m maybe stretching to £30m if desperate. £100m was so far above the market price for him that there should have been an FA enquiry why so much money was changing hands and where it was all going. Pogba reminds me of Veron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 And yet the FA are practically threatening AS over the £450,000 they give them in solidarity payments for pointing out the obvious over the money divide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, downendcity said: memory loss? Me too. I had it here somewhere...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 23 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Well after hearing today that Pogba's agent got more than £40m out of his client's move to Man U and Ibrahimovic is on £367k a week - absolutely nothing will surprise me anymore... Page 40 of today's "Metro". The Accrington owner has blasted the Premier League for paying massive wages and transfer fees. The Agent Raiola received a fee 20 times larger than Accrington's annual budget. He continued stating The EFL is like a starving beggar, owners ruin clubs, the Premiership is ruining the game. The premier League has replied "It is only because it is in the interest of our competition we can support Accrington. We will write to him asking if he wants us to continue the level of support we currently provide to the EFL". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 If anyone is interested in potentially watching him Flamengo are playing at 11:30pm tonight in the cup. No-one knows if he's going to be called up as the deal hasn't gone through yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, WRERE said: If anyone is interested in potentially watching him Flamengo are playing at 11:30pm tonight in the cup. No-one knows if he's going to be called up as the deal hasn't gone through yet. Which train do I get ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 hours ago, 42nite said: Me too. I had it here somewhere...... Had what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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