GrahamC Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, shelts said: If that's true him and Tomlin will both be here next season sat on the bench earning a nice wedge He rejected a one year deal with Norwich (who were in the Prem last year) in order to sign a two year one with us last summer. I'd suggest that £15k a week figure quoted above is a fair bit less than the reality.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'd like to think George Dowling is closer to the team than O'Neil who frankly has done nothing, costs a fortune and appears to be more interested in Golf. Seems a nice guy and I'm sure he would like it o have done well but if he was going to make an impression here he'd have done so by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: How do you know? I think it's been proven many a time over that no one on here has any idea what the wages of our players are. Anything you see quoted is wild conjecture. I should note that this doesn't only apply to wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He rejected a one year deal with Norwich (who were in the Prem last year) in order to sign a two year one with us last summer. I'd suggest that £15k a week figure quoted above is a fair bit less than the reality.. Just now, Coxy27 said: I think it's been proven many a time over that no one on here has any idea what the wages of our players are. Anything you see quoted is wild conjecture. I should note that this doesn't only apply to wages. Gary O'Neil is on £15k a week. That is a promise. Moving clubs as his age is 'one last pay day' because of signing on fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 59 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He rejected a one year deal with Norwich (who were in the Prem last year) in order to sign a two year one with us last summer. I'd suggest that £15k a week figure quoted above is a fair bit less than the reality.. i wouldn't norwich werent a prem club when he signed for us they were a championship club, he signed for us because we offered him a 2 year deal, it gives him a bit more security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: i wouldn't norwich werent a prem club when he signed for us they were a championship club, he signed for us because we offered him a 2 year deal, it gives him a bit more security I didn't say they were, I said they were a Prem Club last season... They are high payers, so no way would he has signed for us if we didn't get near to their offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I didn't say they were, I said they were a Prem Club last season... They are high payers, so no way would he has signed for us if we didn't get near to their offer. Salary relegation clause, added in with decent signing on fee, longer contract, new challenge = reason why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 It never ceases to amaze me some of the throwaway comments on here. GON was a mainstay of our team before he picked up a few niggling injuries [there's a clue] He has a wealth of experience and has played at the top level for a number of years. I am sure the ideal scenario would've been a fit Korey & GON in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, petehinton said: Salary relegation clause, added in with decent signing on fee, longer contract, new challenge = reason why Opportunity to be a subject of discussion on OTIB , too good for most footballers to turn down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Swede said: It never ceases to amaze me some of the throwaway comments on here. GON was a mainstay of our team before he picked up a few niggling injuries [there's a clue] He has a wealth of experience and has played at the top level for a number of years. I am sure the ideal scenario would've been a fit Korey & GON in midfield. I thought he was disappointing to be honest, not the worse but sub-par Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, Monkeh said: I thought he was disappointing to be honest, not the worse but sub-par I agree with most on here that saw his performances diminish gradually. He started off by running the show then sadly , whether injured or out of steam he became ineffective and worse , too slow for the centre midfield . His delivery from dead ball was powder puff stuff, wafted away disdainfully by even the most average opposition defenders . So, for me he is in need of a terrific preseason and to be used more sparingly by LJ who I believe badly managed him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I agree with most on here that saw his performances diminish gradually. He started off by running the show then sadly , whether injured or out of steam he became ineffective and worse , too slow for the centre midfield . His delivery from dead ball was powder puff stuff, wafted away disdainfully by even the most average opposition defenders . So, for me he is in need of a terrific preseason and to be used more sparingly by LJ who I believe badly managed him . I disagree with that to be fair to Johnson, I can't see how he could of done it differently, in regards to O'Neil, especially when you got Wilbs setting the example of what fire in you belly can do in the advanced years, I think a player like Reid and Engvill was badly managed not o'neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I disagree with that to be fair to Johnson, I can't see how he could of done it differently, in regards to O'Neil, especially when you got Wilbs setting the example of what fire in you belly can do in the advanced years, I think a player like Reid and Engvill was badly managed not o'neil Wilbs was used more sparingly, largely due to his age . As a person of advanced years I can vouch for the fire in the belly not being hot enough at times . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 hours ago, GrahamC said: He rejected a one year deal with Norwich (who were in the Prem last year) in order to sign a two year one with us last summer. I'd suggest that £15k a week figure quoted above is a fair bit less than the reality.. Gobsmacked about how much money we're paying on players who aren't regulars . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 All I get is upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 He's been good when he's played and worked his socks off However, when he has played he has had a crock of shite around him with barely any options to give the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 He feels like a David James sort of player. Not quite as high level though obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Carey 6 said: I didn't really rate him this season, and it surprised me to see he's one of our most creative midfielders, it's just a pity he can't play next to pack due to their lack of pace. Are you the real Louis Carey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Swede said: It never ceases to amaze me some of the throwaway comments on here. GON was a mainstay of our team before he picked up a few niggling injuries [there's a clue] He has a wealth of experience and has played at the top level for a number of years. I am sure the ideal scenario would've been a fit Korey & GON in midfield. There is some goals in that midfield. Add in Pack Brownhill Odowda and we are set! Maybe sell Flint and play Taylor with Djuric and thus FF becomes our main goal threat! Joking apart our problem with scoring from most areas is clear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I quite rate GON still. Agree his wages are too high but clearly we are capable of paying them, more than happy to have him as a 2nd choice CDM behind Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think it is important to have experience in the team to guide the young ones but you could say that the likes of pack, smith and hegeler are our experienced players now so maybe O'Neil is an unnecessary expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 19 hours ago, shelts said: Gobsmacked about how much money we're paying on players who aren't regulars . I'm gobsmacked by all our fans knowing how much each player is earning, I don't even know what my wife earns..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Why is there this fixation with Smith. What does he do? Gets in the way of the defenders, passes sideways, always telling others what to do and not doing his own job. Does he score goals or even set them up. Give me Bobby Reid and O'Neil any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, WECANDO said: Why is there this fixation with Smith. What does he do? Gets in the way of the defenders, passes sideways, always telling others what to do and not doing his own job. Does he score goals or even set them up. Give me Bobby Reid any day. what you have described is the perfect defensive midfielder, his job isn't about scoring goals or setting up, his is about breaking up play and protecting the back four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 He needs protecting himself. Against Birmingham he kept giving the ball away. Give me O'Neil any day. More mobile, better passer of the ball and more nasty in that area of the pitch. Ditto Bobby Reid except the nasty bit although I have seen him clatter a few players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, WECANDO said: He needs protecting himself. Against Birmingham he kept giving the ball away. Give me O'Neil any day. More mobile, better passer of the ball and more nasty in that area of the pitch. Ditto Bobby Reid except the nasty bit although I have seen him clatter a few players. he wasn't the only player to give the ball away alot against birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I'm gobsmacked by all our fans knowing how much each player is earning, I don't even know what my wife earns..... I bet she knows what you earn ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, bpexile said: I bet she knows what you earn ! how else is she going to give me my pocket money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 hour ago, WECANDO said: Why is there this fixation with Smith. What does he do? Gets in the way of the defenders, passes sideways, always telling others what to do and not doing his own job. Does he score goals or even set them up. Give me Bobby Reid and O'Neil any day. Starting early today?? Well,it is Friday. P.s..was the 'Afterthought' to put less water with it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs20ciderarmy Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 11/05/2017 at 14:17, Major Isewater said: I agree with most on here that saw his performances diminish gradually. He started off by running the show then sadly , whether injured or out of steam he became ineffective and worse , too slow for the centre midfield . His delivery from dead ball was powder puff stuff, wafted away disdainfully by even the most average opposition defenders . So, for me he is in need of a terrific preseason and to be used more sparingly by LJ who I believe badly managed him . How was he badly managed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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