RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, hodge said: £6m rising to £9m wasn't it? yes would have been a snip 6m the deal was done apparently till it was scuppered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, RobintheRed Red said: as you just stated sold kodja money for bolasie ayling cunningham all cotts players so we actually didnt spend nowhere near what we sold but brought in all young average players Ayling left last summer, the Bolasie sell on clause was also last summer and Cunningham near as all confirmed on twitter that he left for next to nothing if not a free transfer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, RobintheRed Red said: yes would have been a snip 6m the deal was done apparently till it was scuppered He opted for Burnley because he had a better chance of playing PL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: £20M for three players... Johnson spent £11M in the summer Not sure but the BBC reported a 9M deal, could've been add ons etc. we will never know with all this undisclosed crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, hodge said: Ayling left last summer, the Bolasie sell on clause was also last summer and Cunningham near as all confirmed on twitter that he left for next to nothing if not a free transfer as well. Plus Cunningham was signed by Del boy not Cotterill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Fair play to cotts hes too go a manager to be a number 2 will get a good job soon I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, Emperor Palpatine said: Plus Cunningham was signed by Del boy not Cotterill I thought it was referring to money coming in Bolasie having been here a long time before Cotts as well. Point was there was practically no money that came in that summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: He opted for Burnley because he had a better chance of playing PL football. yes fair comment but he was at the ground for talks cotts thought he had him till someone changed the terms an conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, WolfOfWestStreet said: Fair play to cotts hes too go a manager to be a number 2 will get a good job soon I'm sure. Weird feeling but I think he could do well with a club like Charlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, hodge said: I thought it was referring to money coming in Bolasie having been here a long time before Cotts as well. Point was there was practically no money that came in that summer. yes i was referring to money in the coffers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, hodge said: Weird feeling but I think he could do well with a club like Charlton Think if things dont start well for paul cook or he leaves for wigan he'd get another crack at pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: yes but look where those players that he was chasing ended up an how their valuation has escalated cotts was trying to move too quick for lansdown an frightened him to death with the transfer fees involved Frightened SL so much that we put bids in and had them accepted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, WolfOfWestStreet said: Think if things dont start well for paul cook or he leaves for wigan he'd get another crack at pompey. Just now, BRISTOL86 said: Frightened SL so much that we put bids in and had them accepted? as i said terms were renagotiated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Monkeh said: LJ has a better record at this level with us, I'd stick with him For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 If Forest Green kick on and get to League One I reckon that's a job that'll eventually suit Cotts when it becomes available. He'd relish a good meaty challenge to get his teeth into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Emperor Palpatine said: There's that phrase again.... infinitely superior. But here's some links to counteract your statement http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11706/9945257/crystal-palace-accept-6m-bristol-city-bid-for-dwight-gayle http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 So Gray is £9M and Gayle would have totalled upto £8M which by my calculations is 17M plus Maguire around £3M... so thats actually £20M. More funds? I think not Any idea why none of them signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, CodeRed said: Cotts did ok at Burnley. 13th in his first season, kept them competitive with a very small squad and budget despite losing 3 top strikers (Robbie Blake, Akinbiyi, and Andy Gray). When he left 3 years later he was the longest serving championship manager. Hardly out of his depth..............or had you never heard of him before he joined City? Too true code red gave me some of the best moments an memories of watching city in fifty odd years i dont know about egos but memories that will live forever just glad we had chance to applaud him against brum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: yes i was referring to money in the coffers Yeah, there's plenty of money in the coffers, you only gotta look at Starbucks and Costa to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The biggest issue with Cotts for me was stubbornness. Stubbornness to keep the same formation week in week out. Stubbornness to not put any kids on the bench and rather have an empty seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 41 minutes ago, hodge said: I thought it was referring to money coming in Bolasie having been here a long time before Cotts as well. Point was there was practically no money that came in that summer. That was partly because of the thread bare squad we joined the championship with. The bolasie deal aside, we could afford to make our money by selling players because we had replacements. Cotterill didnt replace the players that left properly let alone getting enough in to bolster the squad. Too many short term solutions suggested he wasn't going to sustain us at the next level. I think he still has something to offer a club at our level as a manager, but I'm surprised he's turned down the opportunity to get back into the game straight away following their end to the season... unless he's had a word from a chairman somewhere already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Emperor Palpatine said: There's that phrase again.... infinitely superior. But here's some links to counteract your statement http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11706/9945257/crystal-palace-accept-6m-bristol-city-bid-for-dwight-gayle http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33974678 So Gray is £9M and Gayle would have totalled upto £8M which by my calculations is 17M plus Maguire around £3M... so thats actually £20M. More funds? I think not As I said, not getting into this again but for the record, panic bids who don't come off (you actually have to buy/loan a player for them to improve your team) after a summer of boardroom failings & missing out on actual realistic targets isn't the most watertight response I've ever heard. Funnily enough, neither LJ nor SC left their targets until August. But one of them had an infinitely superior support network to get them done. Say what you like about MA and he is a slimy bastard, he gets stuff done. The other had Keith Dawe. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, kingswood red said: Any idea why none of them signed? They didn't fancy the club .... and/or maybe the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Selred said: The biggest issue with Cotts for me was stubbornness. Stubbornness to keep the same formation week in week out. Stubbornness to not put any kids on the bench and rather have an empty seat. Yep, and stubbornness for not being a backside licking yes man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, Leveller said: They didn't fancy the club .... and/or maybe the manager. Maybe partly that but primarily that they were never going to sign in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 54 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said: yes fair comment but he was at the ground for talks cotts thought he had him till someone changed the terms an conditions He would still have chosen Burnley in the circumstances, as would any sensible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Emperor Palpatine said: He opted for Burnley because he had a better chance of playing PL football. So too did Kermagont, who had even had a photo taken with the shirt before a quick jaunt down the M4. Wouldve been a good buy, but no one got their arses in gear until the last moment and it gave Reading the opportunity to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, RobintheRed Red said: cotts never had the wedge though that johnson had And your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: So too did Kermagont, who had even had a photo taken with the shirt before a quick jaunt down the M4. Wouldve been a good buy, but no one got their arses in gear until the last moment and it gave Reading the opportunity to strike. Kermogant deal just ran out of time. All agreed and he wanted to come, but paperwork wasn't far enough down the line in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: Kermogant deal just ran out of time. All agreed and he wanted to come, but paperwork wasn't far enough down the line in time. It was easily doable, he was still there in office hours. And my dad's bigger than your dad while we're on the subject of ITKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, Robin1988 said: It was easily doable, he was still there in office hours. And my dad's bigger than your dad while we're on the subject of ITKs. My dads bigger than your dad thinks that he is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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