reddogkev Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 This should be our number 1 objective this time - no messing about near the bottom, but making serious progress and placing our marker for the play-offs. It's high time for City to kick on in this league and start building for promotion, in the style of Brighton. We have to be serious about forming a competitive, hungry squad, equipped to do some serious damage, and instil the winning mentality again. Time we start to appreciate that City should be a big club in the Championship, and have to abandon any lesser notions - even the common quip of looking for consolidation. Consolidation is on par to a lack of ambition. I challenge the club to take this league by the scruff of the neck. As it stands, I can't quite afford a season ticket this forthcoming season, but I want to be put into a position where I will absolutely have to get my hands on one for a possible promotion campaign the one after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 I agree. If we get a decent manager we might achieve it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, reddogkev said: This should be our number 1 objective this time - no messing about near the bottom, but making serious progress and placing our marker for the play-offs. It's high time for City to kick on in this league and start building for promotion, in the style of Brighton. We have to be serious about forming a competitive, hungry squad, equipped to do some serious damage, and instil the winning mentality again. Time we start to appreciate that City should be a big club in the Championship, and have to abandon any lesser notions - even the common quip of looking for consolidation. Consolidation is on par to a lack of ambition. I challenge the club to take this league by the scruff of the neck. As it stands, I can't quite afford a season ticket this forthcoming season, but I want to be put into a position where I will absolutely have to get my hands on one for a possible promotion campaign the one after. I don't think anyone's ever thought of doing that before.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: I agree. If we get a decent manager we might achieve it.... Zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Why ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, reddogkev said: This should be our number 1 objective this time - no messing about near the bottom, but making serious progress and placing our marker for the play-offs. It's high time for City to kick on in this league and start building for promotion, in the style of Brighton. We have to be serious about forming a competitive, hungry squad, equipped to do some serious damage, and instil the winning mentality again. Time we start to appreciate that City should be a big club in the Championship, and have to abandon any lesser notions - even the common quip of looking for consolidation. Consolidation is on par to a lack of ambition. I challenge the club to take this league by the scruff of the neck. As it stands, I can't quite afford a season ticket this forthcoming season, but I want to be put into a position where I will absolutely have to get my hands on one for a possible promotion campaign the one after. not to be too critical, but you are a bit lacking in ambition saying we should be challenging the season after next, what's wrong with next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Zzz I don't think it's boring to want a proven, successful manager at this level....the only time we actually appointed one he buggered off after two games.... That seems to have scared Mr Lansdown and he hasn't appointed a proven championship manager since.... We ain't going anywhere under the current set up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 I want us to finish first next season. I don't have a plan or any understanding of what it takes but I defiantly want this, I'm not going to chip in at this stage towards that goal. Come on everybody let's win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJS Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: I agree. If we get a decent manager we might achieve it.... Ha..... oh wait..... not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'd be very happy with a top half finish after flirting with the promotion places . Of course this depends on our buisness done in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Exciting football, win more than we lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, Pezo said: I want us to finish first next season. I don't have a plan or any understanding of what it takes but I defiantly want this, I'm not going to chip in at this stage towards that goal. Come on everybody let's win the league. It reminds me of a Harry Enfield clip where a manager is prepping his substitute before taking to the pitch: "Now, I'm putting you on for so and so and what I want you to do is, wait for it, be better than him. You've got it? Be better than him". ........Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Mid table and I'll be happy. Finishing near the playoffs and I'll be delighted. I think we're about 5 players short from being a top 10 side. That's right ,he's only signed 19players so far what's another 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: When does the future arrive? I mean surely if they are good enough they are old enough? Yes but if they are not yet good enough it doesn't mean they don't have the potential to be. If someone is signed for the future you won't generally expect that future to arrive the same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Big Red Rich said: I agree. If we get a decent manager we might achieve it.... Out of interest Rich, If we do finish top ten next year with LJ in charge, would that make him a decent manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I don't think it's boring to want a proven, successful manager at this level....the only time we actually appointed one he buggered off after two games.... That seems to have scared Mr Lansdown and he hasn't appointed a proven championship manager since.... We ain't going anywhere under the current set up... I would like to think that by the end of the season we will have a proven championship manager, either by employing one or by utilising the preferred method of LJ turning out to be as good as we all hope he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 My personal opinion is that with LJ in charge, next season will be just another depressing struggle against relegation. I would be absolutely delighted to be proven wrong though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I would like to think that by the end of the season we will have a proven championship manager, either by employing one or by utilising the preferred method of LJ turning out to be as good as we all hope he can be. Indeed. The flipside with LJ is that he is 35 years old and has 3 years of management under his belt. That's a hell of a lot of experience for someone of his age. He kept us up last season and, whilst we should have done better this season given what we spent and how we started and - Birmingham aside- finished it, he did ultimately arrest our downturn of form and do what was needed to survive. We all want to be higher in the table but we have a manager who is young and still learning as well as players who are young and still learning. In both cases, we risk having players and a manager for the period where they are making mistakes and then discarding them before the period where they have learned from those mistakes and can succeed elsewhere. The bottom line for me this season was that we had to stay up at all costs and I, like may others, felt LJ had to go last season because I did not believe he could keep us up and improve our form. I was wrong on both counts. It might be that 2 or even 3 years of struggling to stay up under LJ, whilst painful at the times, are what will give LJ the skills and experience to kick on and succeed as a manager. It would be frustrating - and frankly the typical thing Bristol City would do - if by that point we'd sack him and his eventual success was elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I would like to think that by the end of the season we will have a proven championship manager, either by employing one or by utilising the preferred method of LJ turning out to be as good as we all hope he can be. Our best season for years and closest we've got to the prem was achieved under a conference manager with no experience of the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I saw enough last season to get a season ticket for the coming campaign for the first time in 40 years. Little things started to fall into place and I could see the potential of a decent team. I just have a gut feeling we will make a mark on the league and learn lessons from the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I'd be happy with the kind of season Brentford have just had. Good football, great at home, and not a million miles from a play off push. At no stage did they even look like going down. If we could manage all of those things next year I'd be more than satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Big Red Rich said: I agree. If we get a decent manager we might achieve it.... 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I don't think it's boring to want a proven, successful manager at this level....the only time we actually appointed one he buggered off after two games.... That seems to have scared Mr Lansdown and he hasn't appointed a proven championship manager since.... We ain't going anywhere under the current set up... 30 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: My personal opinion is that with LJ in charge, next season will be just another depressing struggle against relegation. I would be absolutely delighted to be proven wrong though!! These are reality, those who think not should remember how close we came to relegation with the best goalscorer outside the prem. I have no hopes at all for next season, except for a repeat of this season and 3 worse teams..... if we a very lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Majority of those were for the future. you mean cheap and not very good at the moment.........with a hope that they may or may not improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I don't think it's boring to want a proven, successful manager at this level....the only time we actually appointed one he buggered off after two games.... That seems to have scared Mr Lansdown and he hasn't appointed a proven championship manager since.... We ain't going anywhere under the current set up... I think it's boring to see the same one line comment from the same handful of posters on every thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, P'head Red said: Out of interest Rich, If we do finish top ten next year with LJ in charge, would that make him a decent manager? I think it would demonstrate he has learnt from his many many failings this season for sure. Hopefully we do, would certainly shut a few people like myself up. Will it happen? I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, pillred said: not to be too critical, but you are a bit lacking in ambition saying we should be challenging the season after next, what's wrong with next season? Good point, but my reason is LJ - I don't believe he is ready to manage a promotion drive this time round, but just like a player, he will develop again, or ultimately be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Every new season and every game within it is utterly unscripted. No-one can predict how the season will pan out for any club. That's why the bookies make so such out of us mugs who bet on the games. All fans have hopes for their club and for me I hope for a season where City are in the mix all season, win more an they lose and be there or there abouts with 10 games to go with the possibility of reaching the Promised Land. To me that would be a decent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Indeed. The flipside with LJ is that he is 35 years old and has 3 years of management under his belt. That's a hell of a lot of experience for someone of his age. He kept us up last season and, whilst we should have done better this season given what we spent and how we started and - Birmingham aside- finished it, he did ultimately arrest our downturn of form and do what was needed to survive. We all want to be higher in the table but we have a manager who is young and still learning as well as players who are young and still learning. In both cases, we risk having players and a manager for the period where they are making mistakes and then discarding them before the period where they have learned from those mistakes and can succeed elsewhere. The bottom line for me this season was that we had to stay up at all costs and I, like may others, felt LJ had to go last season because I did not believe he could keep us up and improve our form. I was wrong on both counts. It might be that 2 or even 3 years of struggling to stay up under LJ, whilst painful at the times, are what will give LJ the skills and experience to kick on and succeed as a manager. It would be frustrating - and frankly the typical thing Bristol City would do - if by that point we'd sack him and his eventual success was elsewhere. The problem with this is if you spend 3 years struggling everyone will start to believe your never going to do any better; the fans get demoralised and players start to leave and become harder to attract. No one wants to play for a club that isn't winning regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Well, last year we finished 18th with 52 points, and this year we finished 17th with 54 points. I'm going to guess we'll finish 16th with 56 points; progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, Robbored said: Every new season and every game within it is utterly unscripted. No-one can predict how the season will pan out for any club. That's why the bookies make so such out of us mugs who bet on the games. All fans have hopes for their club and for me I hope for a season where City are in the mix all season, win more an they lose and be there or there abouts with 10 games to go with the possibility of reaching the Promised Land. To me that would be a decent season. Sadly that is what I hoped for / expected this year. Never looking down and close enough at the business end to think if result went our way we could have made a push. With 3/4 quality signings I will be thinking the same this coming season. Then again. In '79 after a 13th place finish in the top division and 40 points, I really thought we could push for Europe . Goes to show what I know, we got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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