Major Isewater Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Totally agree, we couldn't turn that down, still, why say we wouldn't sell him to a team in the same division when we did?! A bit silly... Very silly except that maybe the fee went up because of SL's reluctance to sell to a club in the same league ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Bullbag said: People saying they'd rather have Johnson than a decent manager in Moyes really must have lost their minds. Unbelievable. Only at this club, I despair. My thoughts exactly. Absolutely bonkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Van Gaal's first season was better than that of Moyes. Of course he spent more- but over the 2 years the average net spend was not dissimilar- when you split it on a year by year basis. Plus youth he brought though- I would suggest Van Gaal did a better job but not by much and neither were great. Van Gaal had a much better record in big games too- especially first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 One other reservation I have about Moyes is he has not managed at this level for 15 seasons. He did great things with Preston- and a good long solid body of work with Everton, but this level has changed immeasurably since his days at Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 11 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: SL also said he wouldn't sell Kodjia to another championship club.... C o d g e r was sold for silly money. SL would have been crazy to turn £15m down and JK wanted to leave City anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Bullbag said: Johnson out. Clueless. Still banging on about LJ ?.............. Its been done to death ffs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 He may as well retire now. No way any half appeasing club would want him after the last few years he's had in management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, Robbored said: C o d g e r was sold for silly money. SL would have been crazy to turn £15m down and JK wanted to leave City anyway. Yep, agree with all of that....just pointing out that SL said he wouldn't be sold to a championship side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 There has been unrealistic talk of Moyes on here previously. Not so unrealistic now, it must be possible he would come here if promised the funds to build a decent team capable of getting us into the Premiership. As @Alessandro says above, Moyes was on a hiding to nothing at Sunderland, and although I do think he made an uncharacteristic mistake in saying his side were not good enough, you'd have to be on cloud cuckoo land to believe that LJ would stand a better chance of getting us into the Premiership....... ........ not to at least sound him out would be tantamount to a dereliction of duty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Robbored said: Still banging on about LJ ?.............. Its been done to death ffs.. Same could be said about Codger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzarian Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 20 hours ago, Super said: Resigned. Go get him Steve... I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Gate. Great at Everton but displaying more incompetence than LJ at his worst last season. Stick with LJ now and see where we are after 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, RedM said: Same could be said about Kodjia That's a "whoosh". From me RedM........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 hours ago, NickJ said: There has been unrealistic talk of Moyes on here previously. Not so unrealistic now, it must be possible he would come here if promised the funds to build a decent team capable of getting us into the Premiership. As @Alessandro says above, Moyes was on a hiding to nothing at Sunderland, and although I do think he made an uncharacteristic mistake in saying his side were not good enough, you'd have to be on cloud cuckoo land to believe that LJ would stand a better chance of getting us into the Premiership....... ........ not to at least sound him out would be tantamount to a dereliction of duty! I imagine Moyes won't rush back into management at this stage. Should next season start badly and LJ goes, I imagine we would be just the kind of job Moyes might want to take. However we have a manager, so until he leaves, not much point worrying about others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Robbored said: That's a "whoosh". From me RedM........ c o d g e r as you bypassed the filter with, any clearer now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just now, RedM said: c o d g e r as you bypassed the filter with, any clearer now? JK was spelt by me phonetically if that's what you're getting at.....but I am guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Yozzarian said: I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Gate. Great at Everton but displaying more incompetence than LJ at his worst last season. Stick with LJ now and see where we are after 10 games. I can't remember him taking Sunderland on a record losing run and taking the piss out of the fans by jumping up and down at the end of the season like he won somthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Reported now Allardyce wants to leave Palace. Possible return to Sunderland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 People seem to still be overlooking Moyes stint at Sociedad. November 2014- takes over a team who finished 12th, 4th, and 7th the last 3 seasons. Cup runs too. Ok he inherits them in a tight spot and doesn't do too badly for a while. Won 9 Drew 10 Lost 8 in League- not bad and gets them to 12th. Actually did ok...for a time. Next season is when it unravels though! That constitutes a decent start and Sociedad give him £18.24 million net spend, plus 4 loan signings- including 3 who are first team ready. He immediately downplays top 6 on the eve of the season and it unravels from there. He is sacked roughly a year later with 2 wins in 11 games, By the way that's decent transfer budget for a side like Sociedad plus the loanees- and he failed abysmally, team collapsed in fact. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2581252-is-david-moyes-spanish-adventure-at-real-sociedad-coming-to-an-end One for @NickJ who certainly sings his praises on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 56 minutes ago, Robbored said: JK was spelt by me phonetically if that's what you're getting at.....but I am guessing. Phonetically misspelt by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, 29AR said: Phonetically misspelt by you. By my iPad then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Rather stick with Johnson at the moment, he is damaged goods and a proven failure over his last 3 jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Monkeh said: Rather stick with Johnson at the moment, he is damaged goods and a proven failure over his last 3 jobs Yeah, that's why I want Moysie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedM said: Yeah, that's why I want Moysie!!! Nothing to do with ginger hair at all then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, RedM said: Yeah, that's why I want Moysie!!! Nothing to do with his rugged good looks then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Nothing to do with his rugged good looks then... Like a good wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, RedM said: Like a good wine... I'd be whining if my profile pic looked like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzarian Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Mtimmy11 said: I can't remember him taking Sunderland on a record losing run and taking the piss out of the fans by jumping up and down at the end of the season like he won somthing This is true, but his relentless defeatism is not something I want. I'd rather LJ's positive demeanour even though I was very much in the Johnson Out camp for a while there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, RedM said: Like a good wine... Like a bad wine - corked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Yozzarian said: This is true, but his relentless defeatism is not something I want. I'd rather LJ's positive demeanour even though I was very much in the Johnson Out camp for a while there. there is positive and there is completely delusional with nowt to back it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, RedM said: Like a good wine... It gets drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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