Super Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Must be the end for Rooney. Good to see Trippier in. Full 25-man England squad Jack Butland (Stoke), Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Torino, on loan from Man City), Tom Heaton (Burnley); Ryan Bertrand (Southampton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Liverpool), Aaron Cresswell (West Ham), Ben Gibson (Middlesbrough), Phil Jones (Man Utd), Chris Smalling (Man Utd), John Stones (Man City), Kieran Trippier (Tottenham), Kyle Walker (Tottenham); Dele Alli (Tottenham), Eric Dier (Tottenham), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), Jesse Lingard (Man Utd), Jake Livermore (West Brom), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Man City); Jermain Defoe (Sunderland), Harry Kane (Tottenham), Marcus Rashford (Man Utd), Jamie Vardy (Leicester). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 First thing that sticks out as soon I read that was we really are light at CB aren't we. Crying out for a Gibson or such like to come through (good to see him in the squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, lenred said: First thing that sticks out as soon I read that was we really are light at CB aren't we. Crying out for a Gibson or such like to come through (good to see him in the squad). Surprised Keane isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Super said: Surprised Keane isn't. Me too, pretty shocked by that tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 I thought Rooney was going to retire after the next world cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Super said: Surprised Keane isn't. Injured ? Be surprised if he's been left out after his v good appearance Edit Just looked - missed Burnleys last three games thro injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 I think Keane is injured, so I imagine they're keeping his out of these friendlies. Some weird choices there, but should be enough for Scotland. I'm not sure how these players will do against France though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, lenred said: First thing that sticks out as soon I read that was we really are light at CB aren't we. Crying out for a Gibson or such like to come through (good to see him in the squad). 4 GKs, 5 CBs and 3 RBs... and 2 CMs. Dier is really a defender (though he's a decent holding midfielder) and Livermore is bang average. We're horribly short of anyone who can pass the ball in the middle of midfield. Has Carrick retired from internationals? He should walk that team! Surprised Warde-Prowse isn't in there. Even Mark Noble could do a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 The other thing to me, I would have had Pickford in . Don't think you need 4 keepers but why not include him for experience. Hart is not my fav and with Butland and Forster Pickford could have gone as 3rd choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dunc said: 4 GKs, 5 CBs and 3 RBs... and 2 CMs. Dier is really a defender (though he's a decent holding midfielder) and Livermore is bang average. We're horribly short of anyone who can pass the ball in the middle of midfield. Has Carrick retired from internationals? He should walk that team! Surprised Warde-Prowse isn't in there. Even Mark Noble could do a job. Perhaps we will see that 3-4-2-1 some teams in the Prem are favouring, which is why we've gone for more tricky players and defenders and wing backs, we'll see! 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: The other thing to me, I would have had Pickford in . Don't think you need 4 keepers but why not include him for experience. Hart is not my fav and with Butland and Forster Pickford could have gone as 3rd choice. Pickford is with the u21 for the Euro championships this summer so that's why he isn't in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Phil Jones over Keane. I'd still have Rooney over Livermore too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, CheddarReds said: Pickford is with the u21 for the Euro championships this summer so that's why he isn't in the squad. Makes sense, better experience than sitting on the bench... unless he's on the bench for the U21's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Is it just me but.....i just don't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 I'm going to the France game. Should be a good laugh in the Parisian sun. 2 hours ago, EnderMB said: I think Keane is injured, so I imagine they're keeping his out of these friendlies. Some weird choices there, but should be enough for Scotland. I'm not sure how these players will do against France though... The Scotland game is a qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Where's Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Where's Barkley? Wasn't in the last squad was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Red Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Many people say that now, but I don't get why? Too many over monstrously over paid Premier league players playing without any obvious commitment, unity or passion in an uncohesive team representing a discredited, avaricious and self-serving football association playing under a flag which most of us are being hectored in to believing represents out and out racist bigotry and fascist tendencies. Or is that just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Many people say that now, but I don't get why? They're just a let down, a complete let down. Look at the last tournament, went through qualifying undeated (not that that was too difficult given the group opposition), comes to the tournament and same old story - flatter to deceive. Absolutely capitulated against Iceland, no desire, no plan A let alone plan B, complete lack of leadership both on the pitch and from the manager, your best striker taking corners, lack of shape, structure etc.....i don't want to go on. England need to have a proper rethink about how it wants to play the game, style, tempo, shape, formation etc then pick the players to suit rather than the other way around. Round pegs, round holes. Quite how Jordan Pickford is not in this selection is a mystery, he's pretty much kept Sunderland up for as long as he could almost on his own, apart from a blunder against Swansea...he's been head and shoulders the best keeper this season. Other than dropping Rooney, Southgate won't do anything revolutionary or ground breaking, just another safe pair of hands for the FA, not a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39999869 Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney says he has "more or less" decided his future at the club. Hmmmmmm or the club has made the decision for him? I think he is a first class tool, stating when he will hang up his England boots, hopefully England make the decision earlier for him. An average footballer, who didn't live up to his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Red_Wizard said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39999869 Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney says he has "more or less" decided his future at the club. Hmmmmmm or the club has made the decision for him? I think he is a first class tool, stating when he will hang up his England boots, hopefully England make the decision earlier for him. An average footballer, who didn't live up to his potential. Do one. Please, just **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Do one. Please, just **** off. Sorry Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39999869 Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney says he has "more or less" decided his future at the club. Hmmmmmm or the club has made the decision for him? I think he is a first class tool, stating when he will hang up his England boots, hopefully England make the decision earlier for him. An average footballer, who didn't live up to his potential. England and Man U's record goalscorer didn't reach his potential? What he failed to do was maintain his level when he got to his late 20's. Look at Ronaldo. If anything he has got even better in the last few years and at the very least he sustained his exceptionally high standards right through. Rooney plateaued and in the last couple of years has definitely tailed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Do one. Please, just **** off. Oooh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39999869 Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney says he has "more or less" decided his future at the club. Hmmmmmm or the club has made the decision for him? I think he is a first class tool, stating when he will hang up his England boots, hopefully England make the decision earlier for him. An average footballer, who didn't live up to his potential. Think in some ways he's a victim of the media. Came onto the scene early making a huge impact and the fact he's taken a while to get the hang of his media handling made him an easy target. Easy to brand him as someone who's underperformed but he's England and Man United's highest ever goal scorer and he's won Champions League x1 Europa League x1 Club World Cup x1 Prem x5 FA Cup x1 League Cup x3 and plenty of individual awards such as PFA player (young player and fans player) of the year, prem player of the year and been in Euro and FIFPRO XI's. Get's my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS10 RED Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Why is Rashford in the squad for? Surly going to the U21's Euros would be a whole lot better for him and England's future!! Get that championship experience etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, cityboy99 said: Why is Rashford in the squad for? Surly going to the U21's Euros would be a whole lot better for him and England's future!! Get that championship experience etc... Had similar thoughts myself. My guess would be he got that experience last year at the seniors Euro's so perhaps Southgate thought he'd had that bit more experience under his belt and could afford to give him less games over the summer where as Pickford, who could easily come into the senior squad hasn't had the same level of experience in Championships, but only Southgate knows I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 All much of a muchness - you can't polish a turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Red Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I think they clearly give 100%. Not being good enough doesn't mean they're not trying. Fair enough on not supporting them, but does this mean if we got to a world cup final, you would not be cheering them on? If they were 'not good enough' to get a result against the mighty Iceland in 2016 it'll be a few years before I'm faced with that hypothetical dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Super said: Surprised Keane isn't. yes very surprised looks a good player in the making, does he have issues other than his football getting in the way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, BA14 RED said: Phil Jones over Keane. I'd still have Rooney over Livermore too. yes I would agree. Ronney's experience be good around younger squad members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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